Something on Wife Swap that really wound me up

[Thadius]

Ok, this season of wife swap, they seem to try integrating muslim and white familes. What the probolem is, the white family is happy to go into the other family and get on with it, even trying to integrate better and getting the children to.

However, like this show, the muslim woman is whining because the daughter is gay. Whats the problem with being gay? The muslim family(3 kids and the father) are fine with the fact the girl is gay. Its just the woman. Its modern Britain, not Pakistan or India. Being gay is acceptable in this country, if you dont like it, piss off, sorta thing.

And this isnt about being racist, it showed you how hard the Muslim family worked to put 3 kids through uni.

 

[Vladamir]

You're being sexist not racist

 

[Olgaline]

Its modern Britain, not Pakistan or India. Being gay is acceptable in this country, if you dont like it, piss off, sorta thing.

And this isnt about being racist, it showed you how hard the Muslim family worked to put 3 kids through uni.

you do know that alot of very very british people suffer from "homofobia"
this sounds more a question of being "conservertive" than it has with being muslim/arabic/indian/pakistani ect,
altho sure, alot of muslims would be considered = having a conservertive line of thought due to thier reliouse belifes,

I agree it's utterly silly to problemise sexuallity in this day and age, but honestly, look at the Usa, they are just as bad in alot of states,

yet I dout that an american bible pushing conservertive would be met with this :

Its modern Britain, not Pakistan or India. Being gay is acceptable in this country, if you dont like it, piss off, sorta thing.

 

[liloe]

No offence dude, but I'd be quite pissed aswell if I got some gay "daughter" after I swap. I'm not the one to tell people who they should fuck, because they don't care anyways......my personal opinion on the other hand is something else. I simply think it's a pretty abnormal way of sexuality, but hell, the day I want to tell people stuff they don't care about, I'll become a german-teacher.

And before some smartass tries to throw stones. I didn't say gay people are bad people, I just say that I don't think being gay is a good thing...then again, my personal shield is big enough for most kind of rock-throwing xD

 

[Rookiescot]

Sorry but its accademic whether they are Muslim or not. A lot of people do not feel comfortable with gays.
Yeah I'm probably gonna get pelters for not being politicaly correct but its my opinion.
How these poeple choose to live their life is up to them but dont ask me to look upon it as normal. I find the entire concept totally alien to me.
As soon as someone says they dont like gays they are branded as "homophobic" and their opinion is discarded.
I dont like other groups too. I dont like paedophiles, wife beaters, chaves, drug addicts and dealers, frauds, rapists, thieves, racists, bigots, terrorists, religious fundamentalists...... the list goes on BUT no-one is going to pull me up for dislikeing those groups.
No-one is going to force me to accept behaviour which I find disagreeable. I find homosexuality abhorant.

 

[Olgaline]

I dont like other groups too. I dont like paedophiles, wife beaters, chaves, drug addicts and dealers, frauds, rapists, thieves, racists, bigots, terrorists, religious fundamentalists...... the list goes on BUT no-one is going to pull me up for dislikeing those groups.
No-one is going to force me to accept behaviour which I find disagreeable. I find homosexuality abhorant.

that you put gay people into the same catagory with your listing is very scary tbh. Im baffled that you would apperently discard someone or rather dislike someone mearly due to thier sexual gender prefrence. That you dont share that preference is all well and fine, but are you saying that taking a theoretical situation where you learn that a close friend or relitive is gay, you would then begin to dislike them for that sole reason ? and discard any and all other trates that person may hold ? seriously ?

 

[Golena]

that you put gay people into the same catagory with your listing is very scary tbh.

Some of them are different yeah, but lets take drug dealers and addicts.

Technically they arn't hurting anyone other than themselves. Why should they be any different to gay people? The answer is that society has decided one is ok and the other isn't, and if you look at the reasoning it's probably got more to do with power (read money) struggles than if it's actually right or wrong.

If the entire population decided they wanted to be gay overnight then the human race would be extinct in 100 years, so it's not biologically "correct".
I'll leave it up to someone far more knowledgable than me to decide what's write or wrong on the matter tho. It's their descision and it's not hurting me personally so i'll let them do it. I'm not saying that simply being gay means that everything they do is correct however, since I do think certain things probably go too far based on the fact that you can't say anything or your discriminating or homophobic these days.

 

[eksdee]

some of the complete blind ignorance in this thread made me want to hurl my keyboard at the screen.

 

[Olgaline]

yet oddly enough being attracted to a specific gender isnt axactly an active choice you get to make.

 

[CorNokZ]

Some of them are different yeah, but lets take drug dealers and addicts.

Technically they arn't hurting anyone other than themselves. Why should they be any different to gay people? The answer is that society has decided one is ok and the other isn't, and if you look at the reasoning it's probably got more to do with power (read money) struggles than if it's actually right or wrong

Drug addicts don't fuck up others than themselves? What a load of BS mate! My uncle fucked up his 2 newborn son's and his daughter's lives, disappointed me and my older brother loads as we've always been looking up to him and destroyed his marriage! Simply by taking some very bad decisions and didn't end up just destroying and hurting himself, but also destroying all his friendships and his entire family! Starting doing drugs is a choice of your own..! I doubt any gay ppl woke up one day and thought to themselves, "Hey from now on I'll be gay..!"

He's coming over for x-mas, so I'll have a very shitty time, thank you very much..

 

[liloe]

some of the complete blind ignorance in this thread made me want to hurl my keyboard at the screen.

Take your time to aim, swing....and BANG.

No seriously What Golena said is kinda true, if everybody was gay, humanity would die in a few years. Now even if I'm not sure wether this would be good or bad, it's at least not the normal way.

 

[Cemeterygates]

imo bein gay/homo whatever ya wanna call it is fine...just dont push it on people or play the "i'm special!! i'm gay!! i deserve to be treated better than everyon else!" bs
i'm totaly down with it if my lil rule set is obeyed..but at the same time i dont think its "right" as it defies human nature..in terms of repreduction....
the way i see it..if it's gay/straight/bi...whatever...if some1 aint interested they aint interested...an if ya keep pushin....ya deserve a kickin...if its gay on guy,guy on lesbian or whatever....respect is the key.
had a situation where respect was non exsistant...was a gay guy,,but he seemed to think "i'm gay i can do what i like" i.e grabbin my ass/gropin my gf...wrong...not ok!...was on the verge of stampin his fuckin brains out.
but i guess that makes me homophobic in the PC world?

 

[Gamah]

Ok, this season of wife swap, they seem to try integrating muslim and white familes. What the probolem is, the white family is happy to go into the other family and get on with it, even trying to integrate better and getting the children to.

However, like this show, the muslim woman is whining because the daughter is gay. Whats the problem with being gay? The muslim family(3 kids and the father) are fine with the fact the girl is gay. Its just the woman. Its modern Britain, not Pakistan or India. Being gay is acceptable in this country, if you dont like it, piss off, sorta thing.

And this isnt about being racist, it showed you how hard the Muslim family worked to put 3 kids through uni.

You know what else we get in Britain? Freedom of choice, if she chooses not to like gays that her own choice.

Thats the beauty of living in a "free" country.

 

[Gamah]

some of the complete blind ignorance in this thread made me want to hurl my keyboard at the screen.

Whats the matter? not had enough cock recently?

 

[Bahumat]

Only read a few posts as I usually steer clear of these discussions...but....Can Muslim's be gay/lesbian? Or does their religion prohibit it?

If the answer is "Yeah they can", then you cant moan at her cause not everyone see's "Gay" as acceptable. Personally I do not care which way someone swings.

If the answer is "No they cant", then thats their fucking stupid religion at fault. They can 'mercy kill' a child, yet they cant be homosexual lol.

 

[Heta]

there not allowed to be gay if they are strict Muslims afaik, punishable by death from what I remember, possible it was only in those parts where they kill the wife is she cheats on her husband as well etc...

 

[Laddey]

This thread is so gay.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Well, it's not really a race/muslim issue, it's more of a homophobe issue.

But knowing the show, probably taken WAY out of context too to make it look "shocking".

 

[Sparx]

that you put gay people into the same catagory with your listing is very scary tbh. Im baffled that you would apperently discard someone or rather dislike someone mearly due to thier sexual gender prefrence. That you dont share that preference is all well and fine, but are you saying that taking a theoretical situation where you learn that a close friend or relitive is gay, you would then begin to dislike them for that sole reason ? and discard any and all other trates that person may hold ? seriously ?

i'm also shocked you list gays with peadophiles and other such


And the drug dealer/addict thing is complete tosh too, how can you say dealers only fuck themselves up? what about the people they shift to? trying to say someone who sells smack to others isnt cause alot of problems for that person?

There is nothing wrong with being gay, it isnt an illness that can be caught if you touch them. Its just the same as liking fat chicks, it isnt everyones cup of tea but it doesnt change your life

 

[Chronictank]

They can 'mercy kill' a child, yet they cant be homosexual lol.

don't know which "they" you are talking about but islam doesn't say you can 'mercy kill' a child or a gay person for that matter, its a culture thing irrelevant to any faith

however to answer you question, if your a strict muslim no you cant its pretty much the same thing as christianity, judaisim etc etc
you can be gay, but your going to hell type thing

 

[Jeremiah]

however to answer you question, if your a strict muslim no you cant its pretty much the same thing as christianity, judaisim etc etc
you can be gay, but your going to hell type thing

You can be gay and Christian, you just cant practice it

*please dont flame me for being pedantic hehe =)

 

[Huntingtons]

Take your time to aim, swing....and BANG.

No seriously What Golena said is kinda true, if everybody was gay, humanity would die in a few years. Now even if I'm not sure wether this would be good or bad, it's at least not the normal way.

why is it not biologily correct? how in the worlds are you to decide what the hell biology holds? if it happens to humans then why isnt it biologily correct?
and to the people who say gay people cant be listed with paedophiles, why exactly? its a diversion of a sexuality and its not like paedophiles hurt anybody by being it - only by practicing it. the only problem with paedophiles is that usually its not a mutual love they got since most kids dont develop their interest that early

 

[Raven]

For the simple reason that if everyone was gay we would not reproduce and humanity would die out, therefore from a biological standpoint we would have failed, the sole purpose of every living organism on the planet is to reproduce. Kiddie fiddling is very different from homosexuality, would you leave a peodo to look after your kids? I imagine you would be quite happy to leave a disabled (for instance) relative with a homosexual of the same gender though? Child molestation is about dominance, inadequacies and abuse, not love, whereas Shirt lifting is.

Anyway, its not just humans that can be homosexual.

 

[Thorwyn]

Didn´t we have this discussion before?
Gays are perfectly able to reproduce. They just don´t enjoy the process of doing it "the biological way".

 

[Chronictank]

Didn´t we have this discussion before?
Gays are perfectly able to reproduce. They just don´t enjoy the process of doing it "the biological way".

so can paedophiles but does it make it right? If a woman wanted a kid with a child, they could feasibly do it for example

People who fuck animals are frowned upon, however you can also cross breed a human and an animal if you tweak the genetic enough, does that make it right?

Sorry but its a pretty weak premise saying that they can legitimately reproduce when tradiional methods still require a man and a woman, if there were no women and all men they could not reproduce. If there are no men, using current techniques (even combining 2 nucleases) is not possible for 2 humans of the same sex to reproduce (it is possible in mice as the Japanese proved, however we have no idea of the ill effects, after all we all know where inbreeding ends up).

 

[Mojo]

You can be gay and Christian, you just cant practice it

*please dont flame me for being pedantic hehe =)

Tell that to the young boy touching clergy.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Since this has turned somewhat into the whole gay discussion, i wanted to save some space by telling this interesting fact i found about ancient scandic religion.

Seid(ancient destructive magic) practitioners, were predominantly women, and if any man would practice the art of seid, he would be frowned upon and even killed for it.

This was because of the manipulative way of the magic, and as such, it was against the honesty and open(nes?) ways of a man. There was also an "association of taking the role of a female in a sexual way". Mainly due to spirits taking over the practicer of seid.

Ancient homophobia you say? Not at all!

You see, if someone was actively practising homosexuality in those days, it was ok(or atleast more so) because it kept the "manhood" pure as it was open and honest.

Rather interesting as such.

Vikings weren't against homosexuality, but against metrosexuals

 

[Raven]

Sounds like some guy was onto a winner with that one Toh, feed women mind bending drugs, tell them you are a god and shag them rotten. If they sleep with someone else have them killed

 

[Cromcruaich]

Ive undertaken extensive research into lesbianism, a long and extensive internet driven study has lead me to the conclusion that lesbians rock!

 

[Olgaline]

i'm also shocked you list gays with peadophiles and other such

where exactly do i do that ?
funny how people want to jam words into your mouth,
but luckily i was anticipating that exact responce with peadophiles.
try reading what i actually wrote