Someone shoot Crouch...

[Thadius]

wooo go Paul Robinson !!!! have my babies
and go England too:touch:

I want him to bang on in

Like he did vs Swindon!

 

[Lamp]

Peter Crouch played like a donkey

Yes England played shit

BUT....we won and thats all that matters.

 

[Gamah]

For me Lennon is very promising, as soon as he came on he was picking up the game, outpacing defenders like they were not there and generally casuing havoc.

Lennon should start against sweden for sure.

 

[Marc]

Mixed feelings about Lennon tbh. People are quick to say "well Lennon changed the direction of the game". No he never, Sven did that by playing with width. Shaun Wright Philipps would have had a field day aswell against that shower of a full back. But saying that, Lennon did look dangerous and hit a beautiful cross across the face of goal.

Lennon will never start against Sweden as it means Beckham is either dropped or moved to the left. Lennon will never be more than a 20 minute a game man for the next couple of years.

 

[Yejorah]

With the exception of crouch's effort that he put wide, T&T limited England to snap shots at goal. T&T showed just how easy it is to counter the long ball game by playing 5 across the midfield, forcing england to attack from deep, making it easier for T&T to defend. Both englands goals came when Sven decided to play with width.

No, T&T showed how cramming every single one of your players into the box is a good way to stop any goals going in. Its a tactic that i came across a lot in TFC, "Lockdown". Basically you score one flag capture then pull almost everyone but one back into defence to stop the enemy scoring. Lame but effective tactic. Unfortunately T&T havnt mastered the scoring first part.

They did exactly the same thing against Sweden. In the end though, Sweden broke them down and started hammering in chance after chance. Luckily for T&T Swedens finishing is shockingly bad. Englands isnt, and thats where the goals came from. Crouch missed an easyish goal but redeemed himself, the defence stayed firm and was never really under threat except when Robinson made a slight mistake on a cross. Solid performance from england.

 

[Gamah]

Mixed feelings about Lennon tbh. People are quick to say "well Lennon changed the direction of the game". No he never, Sven did that by playing with width. Shaun Wright Philipps would have had a field day aswell against that shower of a full back. But saying that, Lennon did look dangerous and hit a beautiful cross across the face of goal.

Lennon will never start against Sweden as it means Beckham is either dropped or moved to the left. Lennon will never be more than a 20 minute a game man for the next couple of years.

Well seen as this is Beckhams last world cup its great to see we have some promising talent waiting to take his place.

 

[Jarahl]

Should have ended 2-1 tbh! T&T deserved that last goal, was nice play, brilliant details and overall v nice preformance from a country that low experienced. England should have won ofc, even tho 1st half was utter shite.

 

[Marc]

No, T&T showed how cramming every single one of your players into the box is a good way to stop any goals going in. Its a tactic that i came across a lot in TFC, "Lockdown". Basically you score one flag capture then pull almost everyone but one back into defence to stop the enemy scoring. Lame but effective tactic. Unfortunately T&T havnt mastered the scoring first part.

They did exactly the same thing against Sweden. In the end though, Sweden broke them down and started hammering in chance after chance. Luckily for T&T Swedens finishing is shockingly bad. Englands isnt, and thats where the goals came from. Crouch missed an easyish goal but redeemed himself, the defence stayed firm and was never really under threat except when Robinson made a slight mistake on a cross. Solid performance from england.

lol@comparing football to a computer game. The reason they could pack the box was because they played 5 in midfield. As I said, in my post if you actually read it, this forced England to attack from deep, meaning T&T could easily get men behind the ball

 

[Marc]

Well seen as this is Beckhams last world cup its great to see we have some promising talent waiting to take his place.

Yeah, no doubt about it. The bone of contention though is, can Lennon do it against better oponents? Vicious circle though because as long as Beckham is good enough, Lennon will only get bit parts against better opposition.

 

[Killswitch]

He took cole off because he wanted out and out pace on the flanks. Cole isnt a winger, hes a left sided midfielder

Not even sure he's a left-sided midfielder...think he just plays there coz he's better in that position than the rest of our right-footed pace-free midfielders.

 

[Marc]

Not even sure he's a left-sided midfielder...think he just plays there coz he's better in that position than the rest of our right-footed pace-free midfielders.

yeah thats what I meant. He was playing as a left sided midfielder, not a winger

 

[Marc]

lol@ferdinand getting owned by Dwight Yorkes double dragback. Then lol@Beckham getting skinned by Dwight Yorke. Mind you, bet Dwights schlong is a bit sore today

 

[Yejorah]

lol@comparing football to a computer game. The reason they could pack the box was because they played 5 in midfield. As I said, in my post if you actually read it, this forced England to attack from deep, meaning T&T could easily get men behind the ball

football is a game you fucking idiot.

 

[Marc]

football is a game you fucking idiot.

so is monopoly, lets compare that to football an all why dont we. lol comparing TFC to football.

 

[Bugz]

so is monopoly, lets compare that to football an all why dont we. lol comparing TFC to football.

I always win at Monopoly

 

[Yejorah]

so is monopoly, lets compare that to football an all why dont we. lol comparing TFC to football.

Fucking hell how do you remember to breath? Last time i played Monopoly didnt involve attack vs defence. Have you ever played TFC? im guessing not (actually im betting youll come back and try to say "oh yeah i was a TFC champion so i know what im talking about. really." but thats just the type of idiot you are)

Lets compare, shall we?

Football. Gets related to in terms of attack vs defence.

TFC. Gets related to in terms of attack vs defence.

Football. Team with most goals wins.

TFC. Team with most flag captures wins.

Football. defence stops the ball going in the net.

TFC. defence stops the flag being captured.

etc

Not exactly worlds apart are they? comparing TFC to Football in terms of lockdown is hardly "putting it out there" is it. if you want to carry on arguing you can PM me instead so i can insult you properly without getting banned ^^

 

[Marc]

lol I dont want to argue. If you had a clue about what you are talking about then maybe I would, but its pointless arguing with people who know fuck all about football.

ANyway, back on topic, is Rooney gonna start against Sweden? I dont think he will.

 

[CstasY]

As we're through now whatever, I think Sven should stick Theo Walcott on the pitch vs Sweden on Tuesday.

 

[Tasslehoff]

I think Sven put in Rooney, because he'd get critisised greatly by the press, if the team didn't score and he hadn't put in Rooney.
I also think Beckham is quite shit to be honest, sure he does make some passes and crosses that no one else (nearly no one else) can, but I just don't think that's enough. And the way he kicked yesterday, I think he'd been dropped from the team, if he wasen't such a great personality.
I also think SWP would have been better for the team than Lennon (who hasen't been a starter for Tottenham for more than 5-10 games,) but Lennon did go in and do one hell of a job, just too bad SWP is benched all the time at Chelsea
AND I think Sweden did a much better job than England against Trinidad, but that doesen't matter shit, 'cause in the end people will only really remember how many points they got from the game!

 

[polza]

I think Sven put in Rooney, because he'd get critisised greatly by the press, if the team didn't score and he hadn't put in Rooney.
I also think Beckham is quite shit to be honest, sure he does make some passes and crosses that no one else (nearly no one else) can, but I just don't think that's enough. And the way he kicked yesterday, I think he'd been dropped from the team, if he wasen't such a great personality.
I also think SWP would have been better for the team than Lennon (who hasen't been a starter for Tottenham for more than 5-10 games,) but Lennon did go in and do one hell of a job, just too bad SWP is benched all the time at Chelsea
AND I think Sweden did a much better job than England against Trinidad, but that doesen't matter shit, 'cause in the end people will only really remember how many points they got from the game!

so 3 goals in world cup 2 are from beckhams crossing and he should be droped that makes alot of sence .
cnt rmb how many chances sweden created, but crouch should have scored with volley, owen should have scored with the header, lampard should have scored when he scuffed in with left foot and had 1-2 other semi gd chances, crouch headered a chance over in 2nd half shuold have atleast hit the target think that was it.
not sure why cole went of still he actually looked like doin sumthing downing never really did.
confused but all the lennon fuss saw him go around winger sky cross over and out the other end of penalty area with no pressure on him, did well gettin around the defender aye, but if it he cnt get passed them then who can he get past tbh, but final ball was normally pathetic

 

[Amildin]

I think Sven put in Rooney, because he'd get critisised greatly by the press, if the team didn't score and he hadn't put in Rooney.
I also think Beckham is quite shit to be honest, sure he does make some passes and crosses that no one else (nearly no one else) can, but I just don't think that's enough. And the way he kicked yesterday, I think he'd been dropped from the team, if he wasen't such a great personality.
I also think SWP would have been better for the team than Lennon (who hasen't been a starter for Tottenham for more than 5-10 games,) but Lennon did go in and do one hell of a job, just too bad SWP is benched all the time at Chelsea
AND I think Sweden did a much better job than England against Trinidad, but that doesen't matter shit, 'cause in the end people will only really remember how many points they got from the game!

Beckham will not be dropped for various reasons; he has the fitness of an ox, even 80 mins into the game he is getting everywhere. He is an excellent moral figure for both team and fans. He is captain, what does it look like if the captain is being dropped? He gives 110%.

Watch other matches and comment on peoples crosses, Ronaldhino's were awful in Brazils match, the ball they are playing with is very light and swings more than most which results in over kicks and mis directed ones.

I dont think Rooney will start against Sweden, he is still not 100% and will not be brought out properly until knock out stages imho. I think Owen will start again and Theo Walcott should come on at half time if we are leading, or Rooney if we arent.

 

[Tasslehoff]

so 3 goals in world cup 2 are from beckhams crossing and he should be droped that makes alot of sence .

Yeah, because looking at statistics is the only way to judge a player and what he does for the team!

He also hit the defenders a great many time, resulting in England losing the ball, but why take that into account?
Maybe someone else who got as many chances to cross it in, would also have created the goals, it's not exactly hard to hit Crouch

I know Amildin about him giving good morale, just saying looking at the football skills, he only knows how to kick the ball well, and that failed yesterday (in my opinion, look at the freekicks!)

 

[Amildin]

But its the same for all teams at the mo, no placekickers have performed well. Easy enough to hit Crouch, but getting him to do anything with it is another matter

Nice to know that when Beckham is gone Lennon will be able to step up. He performed very well yesterday, just hope he can do it without the opposition having already played 70 mins.

Giving Terry the captains arm band will be another step forward as well.

 

[Levin]

cnt rmb how many chances sweden created, but crouch should have scored with volley, owen should have scored with the header, lampard should have scored when he scuffed in with left foot and had 1-2 other semi gd chances, crouch headered a chance over in 2nd half shuold have atleast hit the target think that was it.

Sweden created 26 qualified chances against T&T.

 

[Everz]

Sweden created 26 qualified chances against T&T.

created yes
scored no

 

[Marc]

Yeah, because looking at statistics is the only way to judge a player and what he does for the team!

He also hit the defenders a great many time, resulting in England losing the ball, but why take that into account?
Maybe someone else who got as many chances to cross it in, would also have created the goals, it's not exactly hard to hit Crouch

I know Amildin about him giving good morale, just saying looking at the football skills, he only knows how to kick the ball well, and that failed yesterday (in my opinion, look at the freekicks!)

Beckham is the best crosser of the ball in the world. Not my opinion. Fact. He is also one of a select few who stand up and be counted when the pressure is on (hi goal against Greece in the last minute for us to qualify for euro 2004, or hi penalty vs the argies in world cup 2002). He is also a quality captain and his short passing game is up their with anyones. For me, after Gerrard, he is the next name on the team sheet. Lennon can learn a lot from Beckham

 

[Dorimor1]

Beckham is the best crosser of the ball in the world. Not my opinion. Fact. He is also one of a select few who stand up and be counted when the pressure is on (hi goal against Greece in the last minute for us to qualify for euro 2004, or hi penalty vs the argies in world cup 2002). He is also a quality captain and his short passing game is up their with anyones. For me, after Gerrard, he is the next name on the team sheet. Lennon can learn a lot from Beckham

World Cup 02 you mean.

 

[Tasslehoff]

Beckham is the best crosser of the ball in the world. Not my opinion. Fact. He is also one of a select few who stand up and be counted when the pressure is on (hi goal against Greece in the last minute for us to qualify for euro 2004, or hi penalty vs the argies in world cup 2002). He is also a quality captain and his short passing game is up their with anyones. For me, after Gerrard, he is the next name on the team sheet. Lennon can learn a lot from Beckham

I agree he is one of the best crossers in the world, at least. Never said anything else.
I also said his personality (which is the part of being a captain, taking the press etc.) was part of keeping him on the pitch.

I didn't think he was that good a crosser nor shooter in the game against Trinidad and I don't think he's that good footballer besides crossing and shooting, but we can disagree, I don't care much to be honest

 

[Darzil]

I did think Beckham had a pretty mediocre game.

In the first game, his dead ball kicks always caused problems, in the second game, they were mostly wasted. They can make a huge difference. If he's doing them well, it means defenders have to be doubly careful about fouling, and then it gives an advantage to the players who like to run at defenders.

Nice cross for the goal, though. I think he gained a lot of space when Lennon came on, which helped him. Generally T&T defended very tightly, English players didn't often get space for a decent shot. This shows when you consider England scored twice from 24 shots, whereas Argentina just scored six times from 12 shots.

Great substitutions from Sven. No complaints this time.

Darzil