Some stealth statistics

Jox

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Statistics can never give a clear picture, but it can give a hint. Relic-status and general population seems to be very important, but take Avalon for example; hibs have all
strength relics but the class who got most rp's last week were hunters(859 active hunters, lol), guess they are training for NF...

Goa's six biggest servers; Relic Status and Last Week RP's

Excalibur
Alb;
Mid; 3 strength
Hib; 3 power

8 Shadowblade 2,652,928 521

10 Minstrel 2,340,863 582

11 Infiltrator 2,318,473 524

13 Scout 2,193,918 562

17 Hunter 1,952,085 524

19 Nightshade 1,844,031 334

27 Ranger 1,390,341 377

521 sbs and 524 infils have been active during the last 3 days...
I visited Aegirhamn a couple of days ago; 11 sbs and one shamy, lol
People seems to keep on rolling sbs/hunters even if they are weak.

Prydwen
Alb;
Mid; 3 strength
Hib; 3 power

3 Shadowblade 2,100,108 395

5 Infiltrator 1,588,717 349

10 Nightshade 1,348,536 239

13 Hunter 1,262,679 346

14 Ranger 1,179,312 269

17 Minstrel 1,052,396 381

20 Scout 840,821 367

Sbs nr 3! guess we need more nerfing :p

Avalon
Alb; 3 power(2 of them have only been in albs possession for 80 hours)
Mid;
Hib; 3 strength

8 Hunter 4,378,515 859

10 Shadowblade 3,811,569 677

11 Infiltrator 3,767,877 767

12 Scout 3,555,385 735

13 Ranger 3,334,000 601

15 Minstrel 3,111,484 740

19 Nightshade 2,427,075 429

Hibs have strength-relics, still the ns is last, and hunters perform better than both sbs and infils, wtf?!

Lyonesse
Alb; 3 strength
Mid;
Hib; 3 power

6 Minstrel 169,009,421 693

11 Infiltrator 142,129,184 624

13 Hunter 139,701,082 725

16 Shadowblade 123,775,513 543

17 Scout 115,024,218 655

21 Nightshade 92,838,120 481

26 Ranger 78,170,911 554

Minstrels rules :p Sbs nr 16...

Broceliande
Alb; 3 strength
Mid;
Hib; 3 power

4 Infiltrator 3,528,668 619

9 Ranger 2,868,506 589

10 Minstrel 2,841,870 613

12 Nightshade 2,705,447 537

14 Scout 2,664,576 631

17 Shadowblade 2,152,484 436

25 Hunter 65,895,803 395

Sbs and hunters seems to be rp-cows on this server.

Ys
Alb; 3 strength
Mid;
Hib; 3 power

6 Minstrel 3,056,617 514

9 Infiltrator 2,984,440 528

15 Scout 2,000,554 467

17 Shadowblade 1,909,451 561

18 Nightshade 1,895,989 432

24 Hunter 1,470,697 463

26 Ranger 1,253,846 411

On Broceliande(same relic-status) rangers are nr 9(589), but here nr 26(411), eh?

This went very fast, there might even be some errors in the numbers.

I wonder if germans/french people view the realms differently, and what makes some classes popular on one server, while forgotten on others.

So what is the essence of all this babble?

I have no fucking clue, will eat now :p
 

gia

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It's useless to take statistics from such low numbers, also the main factor in how many rps someone earns is mostly just playtime so trying to figure out how well a class performs based on them is meaningless.

I guess the only thing you can learn from this is which class is fotm on some servers. :D
 

Draylor

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Meaningless numbers. For a start try taking only the 'active' Lvl50s.
 

Shangrila

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Hibs are always bad off, guess thats because they are all underpopulated atm :-/
 

-Freezingwiz-

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Shangrila said:
Hibs are always bad off, guess thats because they are all underpopulated atm :-/

nah not really, but there assasin class are really bad off as low RR compaired to SBs and infils, but high RR NS's are pretty tough with AP3 :<

and Rangers... well just not enough of them out :wub:
 

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-Freezingwiz- said:
nah not really, but there assasin class are really bad off as low RR compaired to SBs and infils, but high RR NS's are pretty tough with AP3 :<

and Rangers... well just not enough of them out :wub:

yeah rr5+ NS´s are friggin nasty ^^
And there are some good ones out there.

NF will be a interesting thing as midgard will be on the recieving end due to removing of dodger. Since Norseman is the popular choice atm, and saracen and luri who both work with dex based weps, are more evasive. The higher damage of the Norseman wont be as much a good thing maybe. But time will tell.

Good though that all 3 assasains got vanish and viper. I cant see myself ever having use of that shadowstrike crap though ^^.

And Sb´s seem to be ontop in europe whilst infil´s/mincers are on top in US, note server life in USA though. ALB is the dominatin realm on US servers if i understand correctly.
Dominating prolly means more fragmented enemys, and chances of encountering smaller numbers of enemies. See emain, the zergin realm´s assasains have bigger chance of finding prey.
 

Celery

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The stats for the Minstrels aren't true for the stealth world though as they include Minstrels who only run with 'visible' groups.

Just bear this in mind before slagging us off ;)
 

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Hunters arent thát bad. Against enemies who dont evade much (ranger for example) that spear, especially a legendary (cold/heat) spear HURTS. Who cares if you got little defense if you twat your enemy for 500/swing. Seen screenies of high RR hunters on Prydwen (with relics) who hit a NS for 800 etc

Access to good RA's (Ignore Pain, Avoid Pain!) help against assassins, and dont forget the Sojourner masterlevel-path. A high RR hunter can, with a haste-bot, easily dish out 1500 damage in the FZ. Weak class? Think again, TOA totally changed that

Shadowblades have a disadvantage in LA-mechanics but also an advantage: You always swing your offhand so no matter how you twist it: The chance to proc the offhand is bigger. With the uber stuff out in TOA that can be a real advantage.

Surely its not all balanced at the moment; but TOA made a difference to archers (and also Hunters)

SB's compared to their pierce/thrust enemies also have an easier time getting higher WS due to the fact they only need to overcap STR. Also there is a good variety of slash-arti's out (Malice Axe, Battler) and especially Malice Axe proc is uber.

The biggest thing was always the SB inherent weakness to Slashing-damage on their armour, and they where unable to pick a weapon-damage their counterparts are weak to. The introduction of heat LW's changed that too .
 

Greenfingers

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Jox said:
Relic-status and general population seems to be very important.
first of all, your wrong here.
I do basicly the same dmg on your crap armor as on an unbuffed SM w/o a pet, with or w/o relics.

Basicly what your saying with all that jibberish is that SB's gain more rp's pr char than any other stealther class, isn't?

If I played my Scout as much as j00 play your SB, then Im sure numbers would have changed and U would wajn alot more about nerfing TS, nerfing double crit's, duoing Mincer/Scout than U already do, and prolly a whole other bunch of stuff. *breathes* Why weren't there any SB's out in emain when albs had str relics? :(

Jox said:
I have no fucking clue

ho ho ho .. I couldn't help it :wub:

Jox said:
Broceliande
Alb; 3 strength
Mid;
Hib; 3 power

4 Infiltrator 3,528,668 619

9 Ranger 2,868,506 589

10 Minstrel 2,841,870 613

12 Nightshade 2,705,447 537

14 Scout 2,664,576 631

17 Shadowblade 2,152,484 436

25 Hunter 65,895,803 395

w00t!?
 

Ceryseth

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If only those hunters soloed....gotta luv those poor archers trying to kill me :touch:
 

Spix

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Ceryseth said:
If only those hunters soloed....gotta luv those poor archers trying to kill me :touch:

I solo 90% of my rvr, but almost exclusivly I have to face 2 or more infils or nightshades or fg that adds on the rare solo encounters, havent met a solo infil yet. So I consider to stop solo...

Last days have been a pain but still fun, run to odins fight low rr nightshade and get added by atleast 2 more fresh out of the PL session , burn IP/purge kill 1 ns and get ganked by the others... Or kill one and get pwned by a ranger with ts while resting after a tough fight, its a long way to run back to odins from svasud.
But I must say I have had a few fair fights also, :cheers: to those who doesnt call for help.
And yes I add on fgs as much as I can :wij:
And yes it is RvR not 1vs1 so no point pointing fingers :)
 

Smilewhenyousaythat

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Draylor said:
Meaningless numbers. For a start try taking only the 'active' Lvl50s.

And if SBs are so 'weak' how come people are still rolling them, there are so many of them and they're outperforming infils?

Ah - is this weak in mid terms, meaning if you can't take out 3 to 1 numbers in your sleep with instas on easymode its considered a challenge?
 

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Herjulf said:
Good though that all 3 assasains got vanish and viper. I cant see myself ever having use of that shadowstrike crap though ^^.

I can see myself having use of remedy with aug str 4-5, undebuffable 1600 ws :)
 

Greenfingers

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Smilewhenyousaythat said:
Ah - is this weak in mid terms, meaning if you can't take out 3 to 1 numbers in your sleep with instas on easymode its considered a challenge?

did U see my home vid of Gonzales when he soloes? ..... seems U have :p
 

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Smilewhenyousaythat said:
Ah - is this weak in mid terms, meaning if you can't take out 3 to 1 numbers in your sleep with instas on easymode its considered a challenge?

ah, u talk about minstrel i assume? :)
 

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