Solo Air Theurg Questions...

[Moaning Myrtle]

Please answer if you can! My Theurg is specced 45 Air 25 Ice.

1. Do I need MoF, if so at what level?

2. What RAs ought I to buy and in what order?

3. Can anyone post a decent template? Currently have the following artifacts activated and at Lvl 10: GoV, MS, JS, EC, CS & Tarts.

TIA

 

[Golly]

how lazy are you!

make your own template, youll get alot more out of your char and know its limits that way- depending whether your a petspammer or nuker (resist pierce or 25% duration etc)

mof2 will be fine, for the rest if solo go purge at a decent lvl and then passives- aug dex mom wp etc

 

[hathor]

2,8 sec delve spd on the nuke, and you can go briton or long john, i got dex4 first so i had beter cast spd

give sarc theurgs!!!

 

[Javai]

I didn't bother with MoF - don't need it for the nuke points are better off in passive damage RAs imo. Don't have much trouble landing mezzes personally.

At rr6 I've got MoM3 WP3 AA2 (Cos I'm briton so Acuity is a bit low) Purge 2 MCL1 (Champ Staff and Jacinas seems to be enough for power). 6 points spare atm - haven't decided between Dex Acuity or waiting for more MoM.

I don't solo alot - most often duo'ing with a 50e cleric these days. But I do it a fair bit and I don't think a Wind Theurg plays very differently solo or grouped really.

For a template I'd consider some of the pieces from new epic - nice caps nice procs and cheap

 

[Vodkafairy]

mof1 is very good imo

 

[Javai]

mof1 is very good imo

Hmmm - maybe I misunderstand it's function but I thought all it did was raise the level of your spell for resist calculations? I really don't get a noticeable amount of resists (other than the annoying ML ability ones that you notice after you've nurned all your power up ) But then for 1 point it's cheap as chips

 

[Golly]

1 point for like 5% less resists worth it tho even for nuke

 

[Moaning Myrtle]

how lazy are you!

I am not lazy at all, cheeky! :kissit:

It just makes sense to use the best template you can. I've made one but I am not sure how good it is, and it doesn't use JS which everyone tells me is crucial.

 

[Javai]

I am not lazy at all, cheeky! :kissit:

It just makes sense to use the best template you can. I've made one but I am not sure how good it is, and it doesn't use JS which everyone tells me is crucial.

Obviously I can't see the template you've made but I found that it was impossible to get anything I was happy with that used Tarts JS and CS. However, replacing Tart's with Champ Staff allowed me to cap cast speed without CS and therefore pick up resists on the cloak and include JS.

The additional resist piercing plus the chance not to use any power and a power repenishment use is really too good not to have.

 

[Golly]

im gonna go make the ultimate caster template- watch this space!

 

[Arumos]

at 7L2 my theurg is specced

dex5 mom4 acuity2 wp1 (wp2 when i get home and train)

never noticed a resist rate beond normal tbh so wouldnt bother with mof. dex imo is extremly important on theurg, the faster you spam them pets the better =) and as I am a dex freak the only one of my casters without dex5 is my chanter.

As i dont do templates because I am lazy i cant help u on that front however arti wise the usual making sure u got jacina, tart/champ, EC/AT

 

[Moaning Myrtle]

Obviously I can't see the template you've made but I found that it was impossible to get anything I was happy with that used Tarts JS and CS. However, replacing Tart's with Champ Staff allowed me to cap cast speed without CS and therefore pick up resists on the cloak and include JS.

The additional resist piercing plus the chance not to use any power and a power repenishment use is really too good not to have.

Awww...thanks for the reply Jav, found that very helpful. Repped.

What cloak did you use? A few Theurg templates I've seen use the Cloak of Runic Rapidity.

 

[Flimgoblin]

1 point for like 5% less resists worth it tho even for nuke

level 45 nuke, chance of outright resist 17.5%

level 48 nuke (thanks to mof1) chance of outright resist 16%

Relatively that's 91% of the resist rate, so 9% less resists.

So 1 in 10 outright resists would land (10% less resists)

 

[Maeloch]

level 45 nuke, chance of outright resist 17.5%

level 48 nuke (thanks to mof1) chance of outright resist 16%...

Where's this info come from? Did see forumula for spell lvl vs chance of resist a long time ago and never been able to find it since. Was in a grab bag, iirc.

Re: theug solo. Totally OTT class, if was me I'd get high aug dex to get the jump, mof1 or 2 and later purge 2. MoC and otherstuff I guess much later.

 

[Darzil]

Pretty certain the formula is :

Chance of resist = 15 + (Target level - Spell Level) /2 %

That matches Flimgoblin's observations.

Darzil

 

[Javai]

Awww...thanks for the reply Jav, found that very helpful. Repped.

What cloak did you use? A few Theurg templates I've seen use the Cloak of Runic Rapidity.

I'm using Darkflame on my Theurg and on my Sorc - I find the +4 all magic as nice bonus. But I do have some odd ideas about templates like capping hits and as much hits cap as possible too

 

[Golly]

LOKI Build Report
Two-Handed Configuration:
Build Utility: 697.3
Useable Utility: 677.3
TOA Utility: 427.0

Statistics
STR:0/75 CON:75/75 DEX:101/100
QUI:0/75 INT:126/100 PIE:0/75
CHA:0/75 EMP:0/75
Hits:180/200
Power:0/30
AF:15/50

Resistances
Body: 24
Cold: 23
Heat: 22+5
Energy: 27
Matter: 5
Spirit: 20
Crush: 26
Slash: 25+2
Thrust: 26+3

Skills
Matter Magic: 7
Body Magic: 11
Spirit Magic: 7

Focuses

Bonuses
Power Pool: 29
Buff Effectiveness: 6
Spell Duration: 21
Casting Speed: 11
Spell Range: 20
Spell Damage: 8
Resist Pierce: 10

Chest (Guard of Valor):
Imbue: 22.0
18 Acuity
15 Dexterity
40 Hits
5 Dexterity Cap Increase
5 Acuity Cap Increase
4 Spell Range
4 Spell Damage
Utility: 32.0
TOA Utility: 60.0

Arms (Foppish Sleeves):
Imbue: 20.0
15 Dexterity
15 AF
5 Dexterity Cap Increase
5 Acuity Cap Increase
6 Power Pool
6% Slash
6% Thrust
Utility: 34.0
TOA Utility: 47.0

Head:
Imbue: 37.5/28 (Quality: 99)
22 Constitution
19 Dexterity
9% Cold
4 Body Magic
Utility: 65.3
TOA Utility: 0.0

Legs:
Imbue: 37.0/28 (Quality: 99)
16 Dexterity
9% Cold
9% Heat
22 Constitution
Utility: 61.3
TOA Utility: 0.0

Hands (Maddening Scalers):
Imbue: 20.0
15 Dexterity
15 Intelligence
40 Hits
6 Power Pool
3 Casting Speed
5 Dexterity Cap Increase
5 Intelligence Cap Increase
Utility: 30.0
TOA Utility: 47.0

Feet:
Imbue: 37.0/28 (Quality: 99)
16 Constitution
9% Slash
60 Hits
9% Energy
Utility: 61.7
TOA Utility: 0.0

Two-Handed (Caba cw staff):
Imbue: 12.0
6 Dexterity Cap Increase
6 Acuity Cap Increase
3 ALL magic skills
6 Power Pool
4 Spell Damage
4 Casting Speed
6 Dexterity
Utility: 19.0
TOA Utility: 76.0

Neck (Ancient Copper Necklace):
Imbue: 45.0
10% Body
10% Crush
10% Thrust
10% Spirit
Utility: 80.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Cloak (Blackened Cloak):
Imbue: 34.0
4 ALL magic skills
21 Acuity
5% Heat
5% Cold
5% Energy
5 Spell Duration
Utility: 64.0
TOA Utility: 10.0

Jewel (Erinys Charm):
Imbue: 32.0
15 Constitution
15 Intelligence
5% Energy
5% Spirit
5% Crush
40 Hits
5 Spell Range
5 Resist Pierce
Utility: 60.0
TOA Utility: 50.0

Belt (Jacina's Sash):
Imbue: 0.0
6 Spell Duration
6 Buff Effectiveness
5 Power Pool
5 Power Cap Increase
5 Spell Range
5 Resist Pierce
Utility: 0.0
TOA Utility: 94.0

Left Ring (Immolated Ring):
Imbue: 31.0
15 Dexterity
15 Intelligence
8% Heat
8% Energy
4 Dexterity Cap Increase
4 Intelligence Cap Increase
Utility: 52.0
TOA Utility: 16.0

Right Ring (Ring Of Torrent):
Imbue: 38.0
11% Crush
10% Slash
10% Thrust
2 Casting Speed
Utility: 62.0
TOA Utility: 10.0

Left Wrist (Bracer of Snow):
Imbue: 24.0
9% Body
2 Casting Speed
24 Acuity
2 Spell Range
10 Spell Duration
Utility: 34.0
TOA Utility: 40.0

Right Wrist (Bracer Of Zo'Ark):
Imbue: 24.0
18 Acuity
5% Matter
5% Spirit
5% Body
4 Spell Range
6 Power Pool
Utility: 42.0
TOA Utility: 32.0


muwhaha nice n easy pretty generic for all casters imo, maybe a wizz wouldnt need all the duration but itl suit me fine

 

[Void959]

I use MOF1 for the nuke, which definately gives a higher payoff than damage passives by making it resited less. If I soloed a lot I'd certainly got MOF2 for the mezz - the 1 in 5 times or so it's resisted is enough to get me killed on occasion such as when I'm forced to QC mezz.

RAs for a pure solo caster should be purge2-3 then pure damage imo, with MOC possibly. MOC won't be nearly as useful as on a lifetapper, but can be nice sometimes, I have MOC2 for groups but occasionally use a mocced root when I'm soloing and QC and RR5 are down.

Having said all this, I think solo theurg is a waste, it's not a bad solo caster, but with far better ML9 pets, SOI and MOC lifetap a sorc would be a much better choice.