So what are peoples thoughts on /level ?

[bigchief]

Its been in a few days now and I was wondering what people thought on it. Personally I have mixed feelings.

Its been good fun to roll a new class and get straight into playing them, not have to do the god awful 1-5 and have some fun. BG1 has become an utter zerg (unsure if this is good or bad ) but its still a bit of fun.

On the other hand alot of players have, well tbh, no idea how to play their class. Grouping for xp is a nightmare as half the people in the group are doing the wrong thing as they dont know what half their spells do Also for people without a lvl50 having fun at a lower level is much harder. This is especially true on the PvP server .. hit level 10 and get zerged by the influx of lvl20's

Think its been a laugh and ive enjoyed the couple of days playing new classes but im not entirely sure it was a good thing to introduce to the game

 

[kinag]

/level sucks big time

Well, im not the biggest fan of it tbh, but I guess its OK...

 

[Archeon]

at the moment its the 'new thing' everyone will be using it, kinda like DF during the first week or so Everyone wanted to go to DF. True its still a fairly popular place but its not as crammed as it used to be.

In 2-3 weeks people will probably have gotten over it and things will return to normal (or as normal as things get).

My own thoughts, i think its a good idea but it could cause trouble for genuine new people - not knowing anyone, and not having many people in their lvl range to group with. Still, guess we'l have to wait and see.

 

[Madonion Slicer]

Aye it is nice to try out different classes but it has killed 1-20 areas of the game and new players of DAOC have no chance now.

Would prefer to see /level 10 this way it gets the 1-5 grind out of the way and you still not to far ahead of anyone, new players hitting 5 would easy be able to group with a few lvl10's in Mithra or around that area.

Nice reward for those that have lvl50's but i just think it will hinder new players or those with out 50's and wanting to XP at 5-20 range.

 

[Sibanac]

Originally posted by Madonion Slicer
Aye it is nice to try out different classes but it has killed 1-20 areas of the game and new players of DAOC have no chance now.

Would prefer to see /level 10 this way it gets the 1-5 grind out of the way and you still not to far ahead of anyone, new players hitting 5 would easy be able to group with a few lvl10's in Mithra or around that area.

Nice reward for those that have lvl50's but i just think it will hinder new players or those with out 50's and wanting to XP at 5-20 range.

dont think so realy,
almost everybody either pl's their alts or kt's to 20 anyway .
so i dont think their will be a noticable drop in lvl 1-20 xpers

 

[Madonion Slicer]

Aye it is easy to say Pl or KT to 20, but a new player is not going to get PL or probably know enough about the realm to KT so will instantly be looking for groups which as of 1.62 is going to be a lot harder.

Most of us here at BW are what we like to call Veterans of the game, so it is easy for us to say lvl20 is easy to reach using this method or this method. Someone new to DAOC will not have knowledge.

Only an oppinion, i can remember my first days of playing this Game, if you had said to me back then just get PL or KT to 20 it is easy i would not have had a clue what you where on about.

 

[Sibanac]

Originally posted by Madonion Slicer
Aye it is easy to say Pl or KT to 20, but a new player is not going to get PL or probably know enough about the realm to KT so will instantly be looking for groups which as of 1.62 is going to be a lot harder.

Most of us here at BW are what we like to call Veterans of the game, so it is easy for us to say lvl20 is easy to reach using this method or this method. Someone new to DAOC will not have knowledge.

Only an oppinion, i can remember my first days of playing this Game, if you had said to me back then just get PL or KT to 20 it is easy i would not have had a clue what you where on about.

yeah but all i am saying is that even pre 1.62 not much of the people who had a lvl 50 would join a group below lvl 20 anyway , so in that sense not much has changed

 

[Madonion Slicer]

can see it from both sides, so yes most older players would know tasking is the best route to 20 anyway so patch or pre patch they would probably do that, but i like grouping as do many others so there would also of been a sizable player base pre patch lvling in groups to 20 that simply wont be there now.

Anyway does not really matter i can see both sides of it good and bad.

BG1 will now just be very busy as most people will know lvl24 only 4lvls so whats that about 2hours play, cap out of BG1 then reroll 6 hours latter of capping and rerolling be back in BG1 ready again.

 

[parisienscot]

Originally posted by Sibanac
yeah but all i am saying is that even pre 1.62 not much of the people who had a lvl 50 would join a group below lvl 20 anyway , so in that sense not much has changed

Yes this is sad but true.

I remember really trying my best to join noobie groups with some alts, but after a while you get frustrated and realise that KTs are just faster.

 

[lairiodd]

They could have made it something like instead of insta 20's, you can type /level as long as you have 5 bubs of exp and get the other 5 bubs ( assuming you have a level 50 ). Allow people to do that until level 30 on normal servers and level 40 on underpopulated servers.

 

[old.Tohtori]

I personally won't ever get the chance to try the /level command but -if- i was still playing i wouldn't use it.

First off.

Trading is a bitch.

Second.

Level 20 with no G in the pocket? No thanks.

Third.

New class. New setting. Gotta learn it so i like to play it.

I think to those who want a bit faster way to 50R10R10L10+15 this is a good option and i still believe that those who want to play a class, to the fullest, do the level 1-5 hellgrindexpanansa, get groups from the scraps that are left all around the realms and just bite their lip and get on with it.

It's not a bad thing, it's a tasty little candybar for the older players around. It won't hurt that much the "new" community since the "new" community won't have this option. The reason i say "new" instead of new is because there are veterans who haven't reached level 30 out there

 

[Vell]

Originally posted by Archeon


My own thoughts, i think its a good idea but it could cause trouble for genuine new people - not knowing anyone, and not having many people in their lvl range to group with. Still, guess we'l have to wait and see.

This problem has also been solved really, by introducing the newbie guilds. New players join these guild, such as <Aegir's Adventurers>, and therefore are able to speak to everyone else new in that area. Which makes it a hell of a lot easier to get to know people your level, and find group etc...

 

[Silenzio]

nice, want /level 30 too

 

[Hargh]

1-5 pointless full stop, with buffs do it in an hour- 1 hour and a half, no experience is gained for the player past your 1st ever character in that class type.
My thinking on /level is to do L15+ quests to get some items (as most of my vaulted stuff is from higher levels) and hopefully get some exp out of them too.

 

[old.Tohtori]

1-5 takes about an hour if not less without buffs.

Bash, bash, bash.

Level 4 ding!

Do trainer quests and almost get a full level.

Those trainer quests are useless unless you do them at level 4.

Never saw the "grind" aspect on level 1-5.

EDIT: Let me reply myself so you don't have to Hargh.

"old.tohtori you don't know what the f*** your talking about so STFU and FOAD with a little bit of cha-cha and a little bit of thong-tho-thong-thong-thong."

 

[Hargh]

Toto I have never been anti-wub to you

I do feel a bout that about 1-5 tho, maybe it should ahve been level 3 that you change class?? 20 mobs is enough to learn target/stick

 

[old.Tohtori]

I know Hargh Just juuking arround.

3 would sound more reasonable. Atleast would kill the "no please to 1-5" people even if you do have to do the 3-5 you would do it in style

 

[Hargh]

especially as some classes can spec in the ability they are going to keep 1-5 anyway, eg darkness runie whereas a erm... thane or something has to keep back points if he wants to get a few pts in SC at L5.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Thane? Wha...?

Isn't that a river in london or something...

 

[tris-]

well people are not forced to use level, if they want to start a new char then they can start at level 1 with new players if they want, so i dont see that as a problem.

 

[klavrynd]

fun fun fun

/level 20 on camlann = the max

 

[Korebwyn]

just as boring as normal xp

 

[Nairyk]

I think /level pwnz, cant wait for the /level to 30 tho. Hope it comes out soon. If they ever implement it

 

[skerit XP]

In each grou^I go to some people are /level people, some do very well, maybe they just wanted a similar char or something, others don't know what they're doing. The way I would do it, you would just get exp a lot faster, like level 2 fast, you still have to go through each level, but it goes a lot faster, and this way you actually get to use your new abilities ...

Or they could have done something like level skipping, you have to do level 1 then you can go to level 3 or whatever ....

 

[Coim-]

Tbh, I'm bored of it already. And for new players to the game it's gonna be tough to find groups now. Sure it's fun for maybe a day or two, then you get bored of the bg's. And there's literally no point in /level on PvP server. All it means is level 20 BD's running round ganking anything in sight. BD's should be banned from the PvP server. Banned I say!!!!!11

 

[Coim-]

Nerf, double post.

 

[hercules-df]

it reminds me of the old days when everyone was new to their class, lots of ppl running about half nude etc.. and the PvP server is hilarious,

 

[darzil]

On the subject of people not knowing what they are doing :

I've always found people who don't understand, from well before the level 20 patch. What I try to do after starting a group, or significantly changing one, is to get them to kill some easy stuff first, to get the tactics sorted in safety, and then, after 5 minutes or so, move onto the real targets.

Starting with stuff that can wipe you out if people are careless, with people whose skills you don't know, is always going to be risky (I've taught lvl 48 Paladin's how to chant in the past!).

Darzil