so SWG is out in November..

[old.Biffsmash]

Well IMO all games eventually get boring, more than a few weeks for me is a record

Level 60 is the max level in EQ? If so, how can the game just be starting?

 

[Ensceptifica]

Re: no thanks

Originally posted by Valdamar
Yeah just imagine, thousands of die-hard star wars fans who've never played an mmorpg before, powergamers looking for a new challenge, griefers looking for new victims, kids looking for the latest COOL thing, roleplayers trying to speak in accurate wookie growls - all thrown together in a FPS-clone with stats - all playing wookie/human jedis & bounty hunters with names like Lukie Skyywalker and Daarth Vaader. Sounds great

Lol JK2 is already infested with Daarth Vaader's and the like, wouldn't be surprised to see the same lack of inspiration among SWG players ( ;

I'm waiting for Dragon Empires and Shrouded Isles to arrive; I'm not that much of Starwars fan anyway. So far I still enjoy DaoC a lot.

 

[old.Kiarra]

Arghhhhhh ....

Does this mean I will have to start crafting all over again ?

 

[=Shazzy=]

I was reading on the first page about the release date for SWG could be in September 2003. well this could be true, but its funny that the release date was November and then we hear about Mythic doing a 1.51/1.51 patch in 1 for the Europe servers (if SWG wasn't getting released in November this would not be happening) its just so i think (and i've heard from others) that Mythic are doing this so the USA and Europe get the expanision at the same time to keep the community of DAoC playing instead of running off to SWG.

I myself i will buy SWG, because it is something new the part about going to different planets on starships and the character systems, spends shivers down my spin, its like when Anarchy Online was first released everyone loved it (apart from the mass amount of bugs it had) it was a good online game, then DAoC was released i throught hmmm i'll give that ago and it was Excellent and it still is with the new patches coming out giving new effect etc etc, and most of the AO players moved to DAoC...

I think SWG will take over DAoC as a top ranked game, as DAoC isn't brought that much now - i had to order it over the net cos none of the shops near me had it on stock.

The reply that someone made about if SWG has a free month he or she will play it, i know that it will have a free month - cos every online has "Ulitma Online, Anarchy Online, Dark Age of Camelot etc etc"

i won't leave DAoC and go play SWG - i will play both... so i hope to see someone of you there when its released

wish i could be a Imperial StormTropper
but i think around the marksman area or Bounty Hunter (no really sure yet - still got alot of time to read the info on the SWG sites to pick one)

 

[Karam_gruul]

EQ is so much better than daoc its almost funny. the reason im not playing at the moment is because i quit eq to play daoc (as i thought daoc would be good lol), and now after half a year of not playing eq, im too scared to go back, there have been so many patches and changes i wouldnt know whats what, and i cant remember ANY of the keys or how to get to places. EQ is better than daoc because:

it takes alot longer to hit max lvl in eq
eq has 10x more items than daoc
eq is about 60x the size of daoc
eq has pulled off grouping far better
you can solo for exp in eq, even at later lvls
there are more races in eq
there are more classes in eq
eq classes are more varied and interesting
eq has nicer graphics
eq has FAR more interesting spells than daoc

want me to go on!?

SWG will be like eq, just bigger, more fun, and featuring jedi/dark jedi as a playable class. <climax>

im a starwars nerd, because starwars fucking owns.

 

[Tranquil-]

Seems to me like the points you have written are opinion based only ( "I like that colour more than that one" ).

I hate SW

 

[Karam_gruul]

Originally posted by Tranquil-

I hate SW

another attention seaker :sleeping:

 

[Tranquil-]

Yeah, I like company

 

[old.Iunliten]

Originally posted by Herjylf

why?
Simply because shadowbane has been BEAT tested for more then a year.

I am hoping for shadowbane too though.

 

[Treniel-]

lol i thought this was another pointless karam post so i didn't read it

Karam your still a twat fook off

anyway to the post subject...SWG looks reasonably good but i think the fact that they are trying to make it look good and host so many players will spoil it...ie BF1942 32 Player server u lag...ALOT and a few 0s on the end to 32...and well can u say lag? i think World Of Warcraft will own anyway what else can be better than lopping a orges head of and thinking its karam cus its as ugly as him?

 

[=Shazzy=]

Originally posted by Treniel-
i think World Of Warcraft will own anyway what else can be better than lopping a orges head of and thinking its karam cus its as ugly as him?

LOL
whats the website address to World of Warcraft, sounds interesting

 

[Herjylf]

I dont think SWG will be a hit.
The idea is good and it has a good player interest base.
But remember, to this day not one single Star Wars based game has been a real hit.
And this SWG has been rushed BIG time.
It will be a new Anarchy Online, thye release it to get funding then they iron out all bugs over a 2-3 year period.

And nerf, nerf nerf nerf and nerf some more.
then fire some progremmers then make new bugs.

Shadowbane which will be PURE PvP.
Your alliances or guilds can build their OWN cities, and structures withing the city.
Buy NPC guards and merchants etc.
Wars will be against other guilds or alliances of guilds.

I read on a board, a guild laid siege to an enemy city, they were at it several days b4 they had brought them down.

Character creation is VERY configurable.
you are not stuck with 3 races and a few classes.
here there are very large possibility of variety.

Like Arachoix who has wings and can FLY..

They have been betatesting since Y2K or earlier.
to make shure it isnt released as a BETA, that the customers have to pay for.
The interest is huge, the BETA tester response to the game is 90+% positive.
Some critics has flamed some parts of it but even the critics agree that the game will be a big hit.

PRE order cd´s have been shipped and they sell those cd´s as fast as they can produce them atm.

I have shown interest in both SWG and Shadowbane, as a beta tester.
I didnt get accepted at any of the two which is regretable.
However i have a friend who is betatester.
And i have had the possibility to test it.

The controls takes some getting used to.
Even the chat interface to begin with.

But it is good fun, and you can make your char into just about anything.
You concentrate on different paths as you level.

I have tried it, and i must say i love it.
the gfx is beutiful, the artwork is thought through. and if you look at the class descriptions you can tell they have really given the classes some thought.

http://www.shadowbane.com

 

[Jiggs]

i got my hopes on shadowbane. if u get a free month with star wars i will check it out tho,
wonder if you can run a sleezy bar in the back streets of mos eisley?

 

[Karam_gruul]

Originally posted by Treniel-
lol i thought this was another pointless karam post so i didn't read it

Karam your still a twat fook off

anyway to the post subject...SWG looks reasonably good but i think the fact that they are trying to make it look good and host so many players will spoil it...ie BF1942 32 Player server u lag...ALOT and a few 0s on the end to 32...and well can u say lag? i think World Of Warcraft will own anyway what else can be better than lopping a orges head of and thinking its karam cus its as ugly as him?

treniel, your still a poof, go shag novamir up his arse.

and what in FUCKS name are you on about. mmorpg work in a completely different way from FPS's. u dont lag anywhere near as much on an mmorpg with 32 players around as u would with a 32 player fps. for starters the servers are a 'tad' bigger, they have to house thousands of players all playing at the same time, rather than 32

and hosting loads of players is bad!?!? its great, the more players the better.

WOW doesnt even come into the same catagory as swg imo.

 

[old.Mousah]

Swg is delayed...out 1 week in januari

dont think i will go play that game thoe, the pvp system seems kinda...ehm fuckt up?

 

[old.Mobstomper]

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[Valdamar]

Originally posted by Old.Revz
Endgame boredom features in Mythic's game much more than anything else I've tried, I don't know which EQ you played but the game only started at 60 for most people...

Well I got bored of Temple of Veeshan, specifically - spent almost every night in there for a couple of months because everyone in the guild "needed" a full suit of ToV gear for the next challenge, and as guildleader (and one of the few rogues), I had to be there. And the next tier of challenges (certain Luclin dungeons, NToV), were only marginally more interesting than ToV Halls, often with months of brain-numbing camping for key components. Even dual-boxing on high-end raids I was still bored a lot of the time. In short, when you've killed a few giants/dragons/gods the novelty wears off, and raids are always the same.

Since Kunark, EQ hasn't really changed - every raid depends on the same old strategy: tank MA, suicidal debuffers, CH cycle, lots of damage dealers - everyone else, ie half the classes in EQ (who aren't "needed" at top level) stands around watching - it all gets a bit samey after a while - and with very little randomness you can do every raid on automatic after the first time, without having to think or apply any skill (just timing). I still had time to watch TV while running two L60 characters.

Also there were too many timesinks/downtime in EQ for me. With Brad gone, Verant finally seem to be tackling downtime and boredom issues, but they have a long way to go. And its taken Verant 2-3 years to start sorting out most of their problems, yet half of you whine at Mythic when they take more than 3 months. Think everyone needs to remember that current DAoC is pretty much like pre-Kunark EQ - still awaiting the first expansion - its a bit early to condemn DAoC.

Lets face it, DAoC and EQ both have good points and bad points - I got 2 good years (and 1 crappy year ) out of EQ. DAoC makes a nice change - less stressful, more enjoyable, more flexible on group make-up, easier levelling (compared to EQ's hard grind), more involved melee (EQ has no styles), easier to solo, being able to log in for under an hour and still achieve something, and then the change in gameplay in the endgame. EQ is more of a time-based than skill-based challenge, so I can see how it would appeal more to powergaming egotists, mmorpg-addicts and anyone with over 8 hours a day to spare. EQ is a second life, DAoC is a game.

I'd pretty much done it all in EQ - and all games get boring if you play them too much. I'll probably feel the same way about DAoC in a year or two - just hoping theres a lot of great mmorpgs out by then that aren't just rehashes of EQ/AO/AC/DAoC. I hope Darkfall, Atriarch, LoTR-online, AC2, EQ2, Imperator, WoW, and yeah even SB and SW:G, all offer something new.

But of course that's just my opinion - not gods own truth, like Karam speaks

 

[Karam_gruul]

Originally posted by Valdamar

Well I got bored of Temple of Veeshan, specifically - spent almost every night in there for a couple of months because everyone in the guild "needed" a full suit of ToV gear for the next challenge, and as guildleader (and one of the few rogues), I had to be there. And the next tier of challenges (certain Luclin dungeons, NToV), were only marginally more interesting than ToV Halls, often with months of brain-numbing camping for key components. Even dual-boxing on high-end raids I was still bored a lot of the time. In short, when you've killed a few giants/dragons/gods the novelty wears off, and raids are always the same.

Since Kunark, EQ hasn't really changed - every raid depends on the same old strategy: tank MA, suicidal debuffers, CH cycle, lots of damage dealers - everyone else, ie half the classes in EQ (who aren't "needed" at top level) stands around watching - it all gets a bit samey after a while - and with very little randomness you can do every raid on automatic after the first time, without having to think or apply any skill (just timing). I still had time to watch TV while running two L60 characters.

Also there were too many timesinks/downtime in EQ for me. With Brad gone, Verant finally seem to be tackling downtime and boredom issues, but they have a long way to go. And its taken Verant 2-3 years to start sorting out most of their problems, yet half of you whine at Mythic when they take more than 3 months. Think everyone needs to remember that current DAoC is pretty much like pre-Kunark EQ - still awaiting the first expansion - its a bit early to condemn DAoC.

Lets face it, DAoC and EQ both have good points and bad points - I got 2 good years (and 1 crappy year ) out of EQ. DAoC makes a nice change - less stressful, more enjoyable, more flexible on group make-up, easier levelling (compared to EQ's hard grind), more involved melee (EQ has no styles), easier to solo, being able to log in for under an hour and still achieve something, and then the change in gameplay in the endgame. EQ is more of a time-based than skill-based challenge, so I can see how it would appeal more to powergaming egotists, mmorpg-addicts and anyone with over 8 hours a day to spare. EQ is a second life, DAoC is a game.

I'd pretty much done it all in EQ - and all games get boring if you play them too much. I'll probably feel the same way about DAoC in a year or two - just hoping theres a lot of great mmorpgs out by then that aren't just rehashes of EQ/AO/AC/DAoC. I hope Darkfall, Atriarch, LoTR-online, AC2, EQ2, Imperator, WoW, and yeah even SB and SW:G, all offer something new.

But of course that's just my opinion - not gods own truth, like Karam speaks

daoc has far more bad points than good points, and eq is the opposite. UO owned daoc and eq and any other game i'd ever played (before trammal), but now osi have fucked it up beyond belief.

 

[old.Arya]

Well who cares about your opinion of a game anyways ?
SWG will maybe a nice game, but if you ask me too much content they want to realize there, the more things they implement the harder to balance. And the population prolly will consist of 90% Luke Skywalker and 10% of "we own the jedi n00bs so we join the dark side" wannabe's. So no thanks. What people play a game makes it, not the gfx nor the features you don't really need. The chars move their mouth to what you type
e.g.

My hopes are with SB

 

[Killgorde]

FFS !!! November??? Do we have to put up with the rantings of "He who's very name is an offensive word" till then??? Is it going to be that long before he finds another game to diss, bitch and whine about like a hyena with pemanent PMT?

<sobs>

 

[Raktael]

sad looser

Karam, are u a complete idiot?

Have you even read the SWG FAQ? Visited the site? There are no freaking classes you moron! You can't just go 'I know, I'll make a Jedi' HEL-O, doesn't work like that! Go read the freaking FAQ man and get a clue for gods sake.

As for EQ being much better than DAOC, well I'm gonna get and try DAOC, but I am a 2 year vet. of EQ, and I have to say...what idiot said EQ really starts at lvl 60? People are actually moaning about how bad end game is on EQ, not about how good it is.

Tons more classes....hmmm...not really...theres: 15 EQ classes...and I know in DAOC there is at start only 4, which can then become various other things, I gotta say, I prefer DAOC method better.

And right now, umm, news flash! EQ has way loads of bad points, have you not seen the hysteria surronding the latest patches, ppl r quitting left right and center. Druids bitching at Clerics, clerics at druids, bards at clerics, monks t clerics (you'll see right now clerics aren't the most liked class because of some recent updates which were nerfed anyway by Verant)

EQ gets boring, you make a character, u lvl (or pl) up, u get better items, u get a guild, u make friends, u camp zones, u get epic, u make alt, get them up, etc etc. No-where have I seen you able to do realm vs realm fights, because its not possible in EQ, this point is of great interest, bring more variety to the game, something EQ lacks - VARIETY! And another thing...after the 4th expansion (Planes of Power) there will be no more, I bet you...they'll just sit back and wait for EQ2 (hahaha)

Also something about SWG that is cool is you get housing and stuff (something I have read they plan to release in DAOC? sounds cool, something EQ players were promised way back and never happened - guild buildings and so on - haha GREAT JOKE VERANT!)

And fyi, SWG 'current' ETA is March 28th 2003. When yes, its original release date was auntumn/winter 2002, hehe. For those who presume its going to be EQ in space...your all bloody stupid, go read the FAQ, it's NOTHING LIKE EQ! (hooray! thank god)

 

[Karam_gruul]

Re: sad looser

Originally posted by Raktael
Karam, are u a complete idiot?

Have you even read the SWG FAQ? Visited the site? There are no freaking classes you moron! You can't just go 'I know, I'll make a Jedi' HEL-O, doesn't work like that! Go read the freaking FAQ man and get a clue for gods sake.

As for EQ being much better than DAOC, well I'm gonna get and try DAOC, but I am a 2 year vet. of EQ, and I have to say...what idiot said EQ really starts at lvl 60? People are actually moaning about how bad end game is on EQ, not about how good it is.

Tons more classes....hmmm...not really...theres: 15 EQ classes...and I know in DAOC there is at start only 4, which can then become various other things, I gotta say, I prefer DAOC method better.

And right now, umm, news flash! EQ has way loads of bad points, have you not seen the hysteria surronding the latest patches, ppl r quitting left right and center. Druids bitching at Clerics, clerics at druids, bards at clerics, monks t clerics (you'll see right now clerics aren't the most liked class because of some recent updates which were nerfed anyway by Verant)

EQ gets boring, you make a character, u lvl (or pl) up, u get better items, u get a guild, u make friends, u camp zones, u get epic, u make alt, get them up, etc etc. No-where have I seen you able to do realm vs realm fights, because its not possible in EQ, this point is of great interest, bring more variety to the game, something EQ lacks - VARIETY! And another thing...after the 4th expansion (Planes of Power) there will be no more, I bet you...they'll just sit back and wait for EQ2 (hahaha)

Also something about SWG that is cool is you get housing and stuff (something I have read they plan to release in DAOC? sounds cool, something EQ players were promised way back and never happened - guild buildings and so on - haha GREAT JOKE VERANT!)

And fyi, SWG 'current' ETA is March 28th 2003. When yes, its original release date was auntumn/winter 2002, hehe. For those who presume its going to be EQ in space...your all bloody stupid, go read the FAQ, it's NOTHING LIKE EQ! (hooray! thank god)

tosser, stop speaking like such a fucking yank if your gonna reply to one of my posts.

right. lets see. when exactly did i say you get to choose a class like a jedi. i never said you simply go on and click a button and hey your a jedi. i know you have to work on skill tree's to become any class.

your a 2 year vet of eq? im a 3 1/2 year vet of uo (i own), and uo is alot better than eq anyway. all im saying is, eq was more fun for me than daoc was, lvling up etc, even tho theres no good pvp in eq, its still more fun for some reason.

and no i havnt seen the latest eq patches as i dont play it anymore.

Originally posted by Raktael
EQ gets boring, you make a character, u lvl (or pl) up, u get better items, u get a guild, u make friends, u camp zones, u get epic, u make alt, get them up, etc etc
[/B]

where exactly do you think daoc is different from eq then? thats exactly what you do in daoc, except for the added bordem of going to emain, getting killed, releasing, traveling for 5 minutes to get back to the tk, just missing the port, waiting 15 mins for the next port, and so on. the only difference with daoc is its about 85% easier to get to 50 than it is to get to 60 in eq. i'd say 50 was about as difficult as getting to 45 in eq. and when you get to 50 in daoc your basically finished, theres no more fun atall to be had.

overall, your rubbish, so get out of my house.

nuff.



said.

 

[Raktael]

LOL, dude, r u like from london or the north?

OMG, 'get out my house'

from the sounds of it, UO is YOUR house, so get out the DAOC players house, stop bitching about DAOC if you don't like it, FINE, GO SOMEWHERE ELSE!

Leave the people who actually 'want' to play the game alone, because your additions to the forums make for a good laugh at ure ignorance and obvious lack of mental abilities...

And oooh, u don't play EQ anymore, then stop trying to tell people what EQ is like if you don't play it anymore duh.

Ltes see, wheres DAOC different...OOO lets see, RvR maybe?! Adds just a little bit more excitement than the usual and now boring crap coming thru on EQ.

So now, enough said? Or are you obviosuly going to post something insanely stupid in reply to my comments?

 

[old.Prof]

Read this piece of literature of Karam carefully :

EQ is better than daoc because:

it takes alot longer to hit max lvl in eq
you can solo for exp in eq, even at later lvls
there are more races in eq
there are more classes in eq
eq has nicer graphics

want me to go on!?

Karam the MMORPG veteran :sleeping: ...

 

[Raktael]

Nah, the funniest part is still

no i havnt seen the latest eq patches as i dont play it anymore.

Why would u be telling people EQ is so good if you don't play it anymore? he may as well talk about UO, I mean, he's played it 3 1/2 years...

but I agree with you Prof.

:sleeping:

 

[Karam_gruul]

Originally posted by Raktael
Nah, the funniest part is still



Why would u be telling people EQ is so good if you don't play it anymore? he may as well talk about UO, I mean, he's played it 3 1/2 years...

but I agree with you Prof.

:sleeping:

nob cheeses. yes im from north london, coz i fucking own.

i was saying, EQ was much more fun than DAOC was for the time i WAS playing it, and that was for a hell of alot longer than i've played daoc, making it a better game in my opinion.

and UO beats any other game on the planet hands down anyway.

 

[Raktael]

LOL, DUDE!

Keep posting, your just making me laugh so much, it's making me cry!

Ure truly pathetic, LOL. I can smell ure arrogance from my house on the south coast, and its stinkeh!

 

[Karam_gruul]

Originally posted by Raktael
LOL, DUDE!

Keep posting, your just making me laugh so much, it's making me cry!

Ure truly pathetic, LOL. I can smell ure arrogance from my house on the south coast, and its stinkeh!

<sigh> fucking yanks

 

[Raktael]

LOL, Yank?!

I'm British mate, and damn proud of it. *slaps you around a bit with his BRITISH passport*

 

[Karam_gruul]

Originally posted by Raktael
LOL, Yank?!

I'm British mate, and damn proud of it. *slaps you around a bit with his BRITISH passport*

bloody yanks