So Stealthers... are you gonna use CW melee weapons

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If nothing else censi you`ll get the pleasure of looking at my glowy green stick when your on ya back

surprised your not going for the CW bow shrews. What with you tending to use bow to melee people down with... it should come in usefull.
 

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Hmmmm if the melee resist hard cap is 50% then surely that means plate tanks using Warguard arn't even getting the full benefit, or do you mean you can only have 50% absorb bonus above armour-based absorb?
 

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There are 3 counters for dmg taken bud, he's just talking about resists themselves instead of ABS/AF bonuses. I still thought that you got effect from getting over 50%melee resists. Can anyone who has tested it confirm whether or not you do?

Just thinking what you'd need to have it though. 26% from items, 28%from PD...but that works like AoM so doesn't give a straight up 28%.....hmm, not even sure its possible to reach 50% to test if that's hardcap yet.

If you wanna test ABS cap, you'd need a bof3 cleric to test it with. 34%natural from plate+battler 19% +40% from BoF is best I can think of.

STill wanna try PD5, 30%natural ABS+19%from battler and bof3 40%absorb on 1000AF with my tic :D
 

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kirennia said:
I still thought that you got effect from getting over 50%melee resists. Can anyone who has tested it confirm whether or not you do?

I have item with 50% crush proc but it never makes me over 50+2(racial)% crush resist after proc. So i guess that 50% is a hardcoded cap for melee resist.
Well if PD works as "dmg decrease" then it's probably a "bof-like absorb" and not resist.
 

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Gamah said:
I beat ve vamps all the time ;o

Put your money where your mouth is, you know where I roam, you got stealth and speed, show up.
 

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Gear said:
Put your money where your mouth is, you know where I roam, you got stealth and speed, show up.

Yet gamah is on pryd :eek6:
 

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Flex users (possibly savages too) are gonna be very well served by championweapons.

Finaly they'll be able to us a crush/arti-quality weapon and a flex one (snake charmes)

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Gear said:
Put your money where your mouth is, you know where I roam, you got stealth and speed, show up.

Yes when cluster arrives i'll show you :D
 

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elbeek said:
The warguard is ml10 ability and is a 25% abs buff. It stacks with battler and is usable every 10 mins. To give you an example I fought a low rr vamp with ablat running, he hit me one time for 156. I then used warguard and battler and in 4 rounds he hit me for a total of 24.

Speaking of warguard and mincers
http://vnfiles.ign.com/camelot/videos/RVR-NF/OrtofonV3.zip
I think this guy may be the next mincer TL after the last new TL was sorta sacked for being less than polite to people in his VN posting history.

But mother of god nerf this :p
He doesn't pull any punches in his fights, a nuking pet and warguard nearly evey fight, so it has him at his best, but at the same, it's a little sick what a mincer is capable of :)


The vid is made with flashplayer, so it's got a certain level of interactivity you don't normally see in daoc vids, the only thing it's missing is a flash based feedback form to send to mythic with "omfg wtf were you thinking you newbs" pre-populated text fields :D
 

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Aiteal said:
Speaking of warguard and mincers
http://vnfiles.ign.com/camelot/videos/RVR-NF/OrtofonV3.zip
I think this guy may be the next mincer TL after the last new TL was sorta sacked for being less than polite to people in his VN posting history.

But mother of god nerf this :p
He doesn't pull any punches in his fights, a nuking pet and warguard nearly evey fight, so it has him at his best, but at the same, it's a little sick what a mincer is capable of :)


The vid is made with flashplayer, so it's got a certain level of interactivity you don't normally see in daoc vids, the only thing it's missing is a flash based feedback form to send to mythic with "omfg wtf were you thinking you newbs" pre-populated text fields :D

Aye, I dl it last night and it is very good. His other 2 vids are equally as good. Two things I dont like tho, 1 he is a yank and 2, he uses a svg type skin in l8st vid :)
 

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Summoner said:
I have item with 50% crush proc but it never makes me over 50+2(racial)% crush resist after proc. So i guess that 50% is a hardcoded cap for melee resist.
Well if PD works as "dmg decrease" then it's probably a "bof-like absorb" and not resist.

When you get it PD, on your stats page, if you run your mouse over crush resists for example, it'll show 26%+2% i think it is. It works in the same way aom does so say for example you were hit for 100. It'd first take away 26% to make it 74% THEN it'd take away 2% from the PD.

So I'm wondering if its hardcapped 50% fullstop or whether you can in fact go over that with secondary melee resists.
 

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elbeek said:
Aye, I dl it last night and it is very good. His other 2 vids are equally as good. Two things I dont like tho, 1 he is a yank and 2, he uses a svg type skin in l8st vid :)

Didn't like the /laugh spam myself, no need for it, especially against opponents that obviously didn't stand a chance.

Tell me this, what was the reign of fire ability he was using in the pve scene?
That an ML ability, arti ability, alb spell or just a mincer thing?

I knew mincers had an easier time in PvE than other stealthers due to charm, but that scene were he knocked out all those yellow/con mobs like an animist does almost made me cry when I thought of the time I spent in PvE levelling 12 artis solo :(
 

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Tell me this, what was the reign of fire ability he was using in the pve scene?
That an ML ability, arti ability, alb spell or just a mincer thing?

I knew mincers had an easier time in PvE than other stealthers due to charm, but that scene were he knocked out all those yellow/con mobs like an animist does almost made me cry when I thought of the time I spent in PvE levelling 12 artis solo :(


He was using a Scorcher pet. They are funny as hell but you do need a fop bot to be able to do what he does.
 

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melee resists are capped at 50% + racial, a vamp can hit 50% with the self resist buff (mine has 55% crush resist with everything ticking) as the buff adds it directly to thier resist. rhis has nothing to do with abs or AF calculations though, also afaik things like the battler charge are calcualted after everything, though i havent actually tested it properly.

ps battler+warguard = <3
 

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