So...respec is here....what are you doing?

[<Harle>]

uhm, i might be wrong, but iirc parry is checked before block...
anyway, i love my new spec(s), even parried a good amount of attacks in a zerg vs zerg fight at amg, so nya nya, Parry works

to Charonel: Traitor!

 

[old.Charonel]

/em hits harle with a snare DD

now you can bloody crawl to emain

 

[old.Akirai]

Depending on styles, i think blunt maybe best now for plate and zerkers studded. Blades get nowt on chain or plate, so i'd say blunt. Im probably wrong as usual

 

[Rhodo_Stoney]

Was waiting for respec a looong time.

Old spec:
13 Mana
40 Light
20 Enchantments

New spec:
45 Mana
10 Light
8 Enchantments

End spec will be:
48 Mana
22 Light
11 Enchantments

And i loooove it.

 

[Lessurl]

Originally posted by old.Charonel
well i respecced to mana, and am loving every minuit of it

on a side note, can all the people who yell "Traitor!" while running past at speed 5 please roll alts on the pvp server adn turn the safety flag off , i want to gank you ALL , happened three times now and i'm really wishing i could thwack you all over the head

Traitor!!
You said in another post void was completely useless, well i beg to differ and find it quite effective. I just think you lack the skillz of us faithful voiders and can't use it properly.
And i do not fear a fight with you on pvp, although i wont be rolling a void eld there. Got a very good one here already.

Oh and if you want to twat people who call you traitor then wait for the implementation of in realm duels. You should be 50 when it comes out.
I'm sure the majority of voiders will hand your ass to you on a plate tho.

 

[Xandax]

Have thought out my new template pretty much (leaving a massive of 2 left over points at 50) and haven't made any errors (yet) in training so doubt I would respec at all.

 

[Danya]

Originally posted by old.Charonel
/em hits harle with a snare DD

now you can bloody crawl to emain

/em withholds crack from Charonel... now you can sit for ages regenning power.

 

[old.Charonel]

Originally posted by Lessurl
You should be 50 when it comes out.

well it's taken me almost a year to reach lvl 36 , i woudlnt be so sure

and danyan, one word: serenity

 

[Mardukk]

From b/s/v to Lw/v because teh champions are more usefull being
an offensive tank because our lack of base cons ,and 7 shields for engage abilitie but this will be as soon Goa let me pay my account...:>

 

[Lloth[TD]]

I've respeced my (celt) ranger 41.5 as follows and I'm well pleased

Stealth: 13 ------------> 0 (1 free)
Blades: 25 -------------> 39
Pathfinding: 27 -------> 27
Recurve: 41 -----------> 35
Celtic Dual: 16 --------> 0 (1 free)

I've gone for a tank-ranger, great for groups, great up close, and I can still drop most yellow mobs before they get to me with my bow.

I've noticed a vast increase in my melee damage, but no great drop in damage with ma bow, and I can't say I've missed CD or stealth at all.

In the following levels I'm gonna improve my blades to 44 for prismatic blade, then do some work on Bow and PF.

/me is happy

 

[Danya]

Originally posted by old.Charonel


well it's taken me almost a year to reach lvl 36 , i woudlnt be so sure

and danyan, one word: serenity

Serenity stacks with MR Charonel... and you'd have to buy serenity 4 to even equal my MR buff... let alone MR+serenity.

 

[boni_ofdavoid]

Originally posted by Lessurl


Traitor!!
You said in another post void was completely useless, well i beg to differ and find it quite effective. I just think you lack the skillz of us faithful voiders and can't use it properly.
And i do not fear a fight with you on pvp, although i wont be rolling a void eld there. Got a very good one here already.

Oh and if you want to twat people who call you traitor then wait for the implementation of in realm duels. You should be 50 when it comes out.
I'm sure the majority of voiders will hand your ass to you on a plate tho.

hehe, yeah, there was another post where he admitted that his 'research' into how void works was just something a mate of a mate said down the pub.

Please can I have a duel. I got a combo all worked out. It goes:

/yell TRAITOR
Bolt.
/dance with dead Charonel

 

[old.Charonel]

well considering it was alakazham or something or other which said that gtaoe had falloff like anyother aoe, and then when i tested it i had fairly big damage variance on lots of mobs in the radius, care to explain how that woudlnt look like it had falloff? besides i still enjoy mana spec more so hmpf

i didnt respec because i thought there was nothing at all you can do with void, i respecced because it's supposed to be the damage line yet mythic put it on cold damage then introduced so much cold resist that it managed to get outdamaged by the utility specs because there is much less energy resist etc... about, add their utility spells on top and it's even worse for void, it's not totally worthless but i was just sick of it not doing it's job, and sick of mythic showing absolutely no sign of ever considering fixing the problem, bolts included.

basically mana's probably gonna get nerfed at some point becasue there's gonna be so much hibby pbaoe going off that everyone's gonna get an inflated picture of what it's like then whine, then mana get's nerfed for chanters and elds and we'll not be doign our job either, but my thinking is that it's the same case with all classes, so i'm not bothered anymore because it's unavoidable, everyone will feel the nerf stick, almost certainly including me and any other mana eld/chanter, just dont care anymore

stick to void if you like it, i would have done if i did, change to mana/light if you prefer those, i have, that's really all anyone needs to know

 

[old.Charonel]

Originally posted by boni_ofdavoid



hehe, yeah, there was another post where he admitted that his 'research' into how void works was just something a mate of a mate said down the pub.

Please can I have a duel. I got a combo all worked out. It goes:

/yell TRAITOR
Bolt.
/dance with dead Charonel

hehe, all depends on range, and therefore who quickcasts a nearsight first , starting a duel within bolt range yet out of the 1500 range from the DD's can't exactly be considered a balanced playing field

 

[Sharp Thing]

Originally posted by old.Akirai

I know many dont like mana

its only like the best caster specline in daoc ^^

im pure mana atm myself so im not respeccing

 

[Tiptap]

Respecced my BM to Blunt

Like it (Thank god)!

Leaving my Viod eld as he is...I'm no traitor....

 

[Lessurl]

Originally posted by old.Charonel
hehehe, well they didnt say anything about damage changes to void or mana in the patchnotes... so it can't be different <cough> AAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAH <cough>

seriously though, even if the snare DD does only hit for hte same as the void one, it doesnt matter because i was soloing oranges with basically no actual danger at all, the snare DD does just that, its' extremely powerful because if you want too you can just run for a few seconds and start DDign all over again .

basically, tried mana spec, absolutely loved it, tried 1.52 void spec too, and to be honest i wasnt impressed with the addition to it (ie gtaoe) adn the rest seemed as boring as ever, so i know what i'm doing with my /respec all

Bolt bolt dd dd dead orange tree mkay. And stun is there if something goes wrong, don't need a snare to solo orange easily.
But i tire of this, you don't like void. Fine, but stop your incessant preaching about mana being better. Each spec has it's own advantage. Can you drop a mage in 1-2 cast from long range? No. If everyone respecced away from void then we'd lose a very valuable ability in rvr, the ability to bolt those damn sorcs.

 

[old.Charonel]

i know bolt bolt DD DD, i could drop oranges with void too, was just saying that you dont lose much solo ability with mana, use a little more power perhaps but that's it, wasnt talking about void beign shit for solo pve because it's not, was just saying about the wierd difference in damage between the apparently identicle basedamage DD's for each, still dont quite get why that is though, bugging me to be honest.

 

[old.giriam]

Originally posted by Novamir
and thats mainly because parry is and always will be pants ^^
[snip]
it cant stop bolts.
[snip]

like you really need to block bolts. they only hit for like 200 damage on a tank, and ofcourse the mage has to be ungrouped and you need to be alone in the zone with the caster, otherwise it gets blocked by "is in melee"

G

 

[old.giriam]

Originally posted by Lessurl

You said in another post void was completely useless, well i beg to differ and find it quite effective.

im not trying to start a flame here, but i used to be void and i think im entitled to an opinion. the only reason you find void effective is because you havent tried anything else. try to rvr with a light mentalist and get blown away. rather than using 5 nukes to drop someone you get away with 3. thats a major boost in efficiency, *especially* when you factor in the fact that the menta nuke is at 2.8 (or was it 2.6? dont recall atm) sec cast time and the void one is at 3.

the only thing that made void work at all was that you could stun for (just about) long enough to kill them. stunduration is now affected by resists, effective stuntime is around 3 seconds or so. thats one free nuke.

until they make the void eld at par a fire wizard (they have a 331 damage bolt AND a 219 damage DD at 2.8 castttime, compared to the elds 309 bolt and 171 DD at 3.0 sec casttime.. did i mention that the elds do cold damage on top of that?) void spec is just a bad choice.

turn it around anyway you want, if you compare the numbers the void eld IS a gimp. you might like playing him but that does not change the facts.

G

 

[old.giriam]

Originally posted by Lessurl

No. If everyone respecced away from void then we'd lose a very valuable ability in rvr, the ability to bolt those damn sorcs.

you dont need to bolt them, nearsight does the job just fine.

G

 

[boni_ofdavoid]

Originally posted by old.Charonel
i know bolt bolt DD DD, i could drop oranges with void too,

I can find a post where you said you were having touble....

Oh and again, dont believe everything you read about mage duels. Nearsight vs Nearsight isnt all a mage duel is about...

a). You nearsight me.
b). You have to walk or run towards me to get in casting range of one of your spells.
c). When you enter bolt range, I will purge and then bolt


IMHO people who rubbish other specs are one of the worst aspects of this MMORPG community. Ill accept that light does more dd/time and that mana has uber pbaoe, but I wont accept that void is unplayably gimped, if it was I wouldnt be the highest rp earner in my guild, and neither would Lessurl...

Enjoy Mana, be more positive about it and less negative about your ex-spec, you will get more respect and less /y TRAITOR
, hell maybe one day ill debuff energy for you

 

[Tyka]

Rank Name Realm Points Last week Level Guild Race
1 Crey 1,584,381 143,707 50 Llaw Arian Elf

Void is ubar

 

[Danya]

Originally posted by boni_ofdavoid
Enjoy Mana, be more positive about it and less negative about your ex-spec, you will get more respect and less /y TRAITOR
, hell maybe one day ill debuff energy for you

Ignore him, debuff energy for me!

 

[old.Charonel]

Originally posted by boni_ofdavoid


I can find a post where you said you were having touble....

yes, it'd be a post during the time we didnt have both power relics. having to stun something just to kill it each time when you have buggerall light spec isnt xp efficient.

 

[boni_ofdavoid]

Originally posted by old.Charonel


yes, it'd be a post during the time we didnt have both power relics. having to stun something just to kill it each time when you have buggerall light spec isnt xp efficient.

Nah, it was like the week before last, and im pretty sure we didnt lose a power relic then. I can go quote you if you press me on it...

Void not efficent at soloing, oh now I am just laughing m8.

 

[FredaOfAxiom]

Originally posted by Gilead^
old spec: 40nature <Gimped>
26regrowth
25nurture

new spec: 40nurture
35regrowth
9nature


seems pretty good atm and the amount of "OMG's" i get when ppl look at their stats is just plain funny

I wanted to respec my druid and was unsure of how to go.

Old spec: 41 regrowth
23 Nuture
21 Nature

Used the new specs I saw here and have had nothing but compliments... Thx for that Gilead, looks like there at least 2 nice buffers/healers in Hib

 

[Lessurl]

Originally posted by old.giriam


im not trying to start a flame here, but i used to be void and i think im entitled to an opinion. the only reason you find void effective is because you havent tried anything else. try to rvr with a light mentalist and get blown away. rather than using 5 nukes to drop someone you get away with 3. thats a major boost in efficiency, *especially* when you factor in the fact that the menta nuke is at 2.8 (or was it 2.6? dont recall atm) sec cast time and the void one is at 3.

the only thing that made void work at all was that you could stun for (just about) long enough to kill them. stunduration is now affected by resists, effective stuntime is around 3 seconds or so. thats one free nuke.

until they make the void eld at par a fire wizard (they have a 331 damage bolt AND a 219 damage DD at 2.8 castttime, compared to the elds 309 bolt and 171 DD at 3.0 sec casttime.. did i mention that the elds do cold damage on top of that?) void spec is just a bad choice.

turn it around anyway you want, if you compare the numbers the void eld IS a gimp. you might like playing him but that does not change the facts.

G

lol. Sorry have to laugh.
1. i know light spec take down people more efficiently when using dd's. Don't need to have played one to know that. That isn't what i was saying at all. But in a stand off like at amg or in a keep defence all light elds can do is nearsight and the attacker will back off for 2 mins then come back. A void eld can often reach the mages with bolts killing them and using up healers mana and thanks to rez sick taking the mage out of fight for longer than 2 mins.
2. Yes, nearsight is usefull to cast on sorcs BUT it's far more useful to kill them asap. You can purge nearsight, you can't purge death.
3. Comparing the void eld to fire wiz is what makes me laugh most. Perhaps fire wiz is what void should have been, being the damage spec in the magic realm. But saying we should get a spec dd aswell as a more powerful bolt, lol, how overpowered do you want hib?!? Void elds have far more utility than fire wizzies if both spec for final bolt. We get stun, (and if we go light) range debuff and mez.


And answering your first comment, no, the reason i find void effective is because i know what my targets are, bolt the mages then help the rest with the tanks. Sure you can drop a tank faster, but thanks to void range i can drop a mage sooner than you can because i get in range faster.

p.s. i use the baseline light dd (2.6) which is actually faster cast than the spec light dd (2.8) that you are talking about.
Void = death from range. Saying void is a gimp spec because we don't drop things up close as fast as light or mana is like saying heroes are gimped because they don't do much damage with their bow.

 

[Lessurl]

Originally posted by old.Charonel


yes, it'd be a post during the time we didnt have both power relics. having to stun something just to kill it each time when you have buggerall light spec isnt xp efficient.

Lightspec doesn't effect stun at all.

 

[old.Charonel]

stun is in the way of the sun line, and is therefore effected by light spec with regards to it's power use.

and the reason you often need too is because bolts miss a lot on orange mobs, void's very good on yellows because they hit usually, but on oranges, having the spec bolt miss greatly lessens your damage output, and therefor you usually have to stun, ie eat your power bar.

and yes, if i'm thinking of hte same post you are, we'd just lost a power relic (still had two though )

now when the bolts hit, usually an orange kill was both bolts and a single DD which is basically nothing with regards to power burn, but when they miss you'r looking at christ knows howmany DD's a stun, maybe a quickcast DD too even, void is very efficient (note that word) against yellows, but on oranges you can get scary variance on efficiency, if i miss bolts with orange mobs then i'm looking at my entire power bar dissapearing on the one kill, especially if there's no way to run from it (insta stun on some mobs etc...), on the other hand if they hit i'm looking at a stupidly easy kill, problem is that they missed a LOT on oranges.

now please stop whining about me saying there's nothing good about void, i only said that once for a joke, i dont think it's totally worthless, just that it doestn do it's job right.