So just how many hibs are leaving

[Dorin]

lol mids and challenge... the only thing challenging in midgard is how to fit all instas on one quickbar

honestly the loss of GP is insignificant in the current state of the game, which is zerg fights. nothign else.
The loss of GP will be noticeable once (if?) the RvR returns to OF-style fg fights - now it doesnt matter in the slightest way (I don't even have purge1 on my eld; the few hours I play per week I am usually solo)

What will fuck up excal is midgard dominance. Albs might be outzerging the other realms atm but in the long run it will be midgard dominating relics and rvr on excal to a point where hibs and even albs will start losing interest. Sickening overpoweredness through classes + zerg + relics is a dangerous combination and midgard is heading that direction.

funny when you were farming 3-4 fg with moc, 3 pow relics everything was soooooo balanced ?

oh cmon.

 

[Clipse]

Tbh doesnt matter which realm, going with FG is a hard task as it was preTOA-preNF-preSI.

Old.emain was overcrowded, with most congregating between amg and mmg. In NF you have the WHOLE of pennines emain and Odins to roam with plenty of open, level terain and loverly fauna, yet all I read on FH is "FG action is dead thx to Zurg" .

soo 24/7 players farming warders (xpect a few nice dudes fro mthat bunch, especialyl plask AE-DDer of d00m lol),,, saw better from hibs when grapple went live... so what, mids quit?

when you finally wake up and smell the coffee, and discover you haven't really faced a challenge since your char was rolled, yes you prolly will quit I'm sure. plz don't take offence

 

[Gethin]

What will fuck up excal is midgard dominance. Albs might be outzerging the other realms atm but in the long run it will be midgard dominating relics and rvr on excal to a point where hibs and even albs will start losing interest. Sickening overpoweredness through classes + zerg + relics is a dangerous combination and midgard is heading that direction.

I couldn't agree more.

Also casting speed needs a serious nerf. Its way too fast atm.

 

[Dorin]

when you finally wake up and smell the coffee, and discover you haven't really faced a challenge since your char was rolled, yes you prolly will quit I'm sure. plz don't take offence

i wont as its not true, RR and AD grp +garbanox grp was always a challenge to fight and we lost almost all fights to them expect maybe one or two fights. Same goes for 6 caster + 2 cleric grps at start, we didnt have a clue how to beat them, suxed a week or two then they had the same against us. Running with gimp setup, low rr grp is a challenge aswell.



ps.: you cant offend me with stuff like this simply couse i dont care about that much about the game, the realm i play in

garba: it was also sicknening to fight CC-immune hib zerg with őerma 600 nuking rr3 chanters within it.
xD

 

[Clipse]

from your first paragraph I can see the peer pressure, so no point continueing. But carry on enjoying teh game

 

[Stallion]

misstell

 

[noaim]

ok Dorins very chalenging

wake up

What do you expect, Albs provided us with rp´s the entire weekend, it was like pulling in lair, running between Bledmeer and Nottmoor.

 

[Farek]

Old.emain was overcrowded, with most congregating between amg and mmg. In NF you have the WHOLE of pennines emain and Odins to roam with plenty of open, level terain and loverly fauna, yet all I read on FH is "FG action is dead thx to Zurg" .

 

[Stallion]

What do you expect, Albs provided us with rp´s the entire weekend, it was like pulling in lair, running between Bledmeer and Nottmoor.

wish a dedicated hib group would show up and whope some ass, mid is no challange as there are _no_ decent hib groups out.

I solo 100% of the time and make almost as much rps, shows the lack of quality

 

[Calo]

theres nothing left in daoc now..

taking relics doesnt take ANY skillz, it just takes luck & the biggest zerg....

 

[vintervargen]

fuk wow

 

[gwal]

ppl can just come out as a FG.....
most of the proper players around, from mid and hib, seem to run in small teams (solo, duo, 4 ppl, stuff like that), and thus often either join the zerg or simply camp bridges and stuff - at least from what ive noticed.

it cant possibly be that hard to simply make a FG, and go roam... and like... dont go there when theres 2 swords next to a tower or keep

 

[Matriarch|Sneakers]

lol mids and challenge... the only thing challenging in midgard is how to fit all instas on one quickbar

honestly the loss of GP is insignificant in the current state of the game, which is zerg fights. nothign else.
The loss of GP will be noticeable once (if?) the RvR returns to OF-style fg fights - now it doesnt matter in the slightest way (I don't even have purge1 on my eld; the few hours I play per week I am usually solo)

What will fuck up excal is midgard dominance. Albs might be outzerging the other realms atm but in the long run it will be midgard dominating relics and rvr on excal to a point where hibs and even albs will start losing interest. Sickening overpoweredness through classes + zerg + relics is a dangerous combination and midgard is heading that direction.

Quiet an exageration now, isnt it MR.Nostrodamus

 

[Matriarch|Sneakers]

ppl can just come out as a FG.....
most of the proper players around, from mid and hib, seem to run in small teams (solo, duo, 4 ppl, stuff like that), and thus often either join the zerg or simply camp bridges and stuff - at least from what ive noticed.

it cant possibly be that hard to simply make a FG, and go roam... and like... dont go there when theres 2 swords next to a tower or keep

Agree with this. It's not hard to avoid the zergs. NF is very big and u can go roam, camp svasud/CS/DL or keep routes and kill the 2fg rr2-3 grps thats running everywhere ( since iam a stealther i actually watch this liddul "newbie" grps movements all day long, thinking why aint noone farming them? )...

 

[Event]

its so fucking stupid to belive hibs quit coz of loose of gp / 3 power relics. Take a look how U play the game and there u might find a reason.

So true

Peeps have diff reasons for leaving - does it really matter?

 

[Danya]

challenge ? or ppl dont like that ?

When the going gets tough, Dorins rerolls easygard.

 

[Arnor]

lol mids and challenge... the only thing challenging in midgard is how to fit all instas on one quickbar

honestly the loss of GP is insignificant in the current state of the game, which is zerg fights. nothign else.
The loss of GP will be noticeable once (if?) the RvR returns to OF-style fg fights - now it doesnt matter in the slightest way (I don't even have purge1 on my eld; the few hours I play per week I am usually solo)

What will fuck up excal is midgard dominance. Albs might be outzerging the other realms atm but in the long run it will be midgard dominating relics and rvr on excal to a point where hibs and even albs will start losing interest. Sickening overpoweredness through classes + zerg + relics is a dangerous combination and midgard is heading that direction.

roflmao garba, how you whine xD

i mean, i never heard you complain ONCE about how dominant, overpowered and full of relics you guys were when you were steamrolling 99% of EVERYTHING on excal. Not a single word actually, now could this change of gear in your mouth be because your getting your pink ass spanked once a while?

jesus christ man, grow the hell up. Get some glasses, look at yourself, remember your own history and quit the pointless bitching.

 

[Tusk]

roflmao garba, how you whine xD

i mean, i never heard you complain ONCE about how dominant, overpowered and full of relics you guys were when you were steamrolling 99% of EVERYTHING on excal. Not a single word actually, now could this change of gear in your mouth be because your getting your pink ass spanked once a while?

jesus christ man, grow the hell up. Get some glasses, look at yourself, remember your own history and quit the pointless bitching.

Yeah, hibs was so overpowered back in the savage era. With all the other pwning hib fgs back then i dont understand how we managed to get any rps at all.

 

[Danya]

I sure felt OPed when the mid tank assist train killed me in 1 second repeatedly, oh yeah.

 

[Kinzana]

the dynasty of the Animiste has begun !

 

[Hotrats]

Yeah, hibs was so overpowered back in the savage era. With all the other pwning hib fgs back then i dont understand how we managed to get any rps at all.

I like that whenever someone accuses hibs of being overpowered the hibs always retaliate by bringing up savages, you make it sound like albs had it bad both ways, oh wait we did

Most other high RR hib fg's were pretty strong as well, it's just you didn't often meet them cus they weren't dedicated groups.
You guys made your setup to counter savages getting all the best melee defence you could and putting it all in one group. This had the convenient side effect of being extreemly strong vs alb merc groups as well (which just happened to also be albs best way of dealing with mids). Caster groups in alb/mid were almost unknown cus of baod, your setup had no weakness!

However some mids JH/NP still were a challenge due to savages being that damned overpowered, albs on the other hand had to rely on their one or two casters to interupt (instead of 3/4 healers!) and their 2 or 3 mercs to do damage If only reavers had been given det things would have been so different, oh well

Might sound like I'm moaning a bit but I'm not, I really enjoyed that era of daoc, I loved the challenge and generally emain was a lot less zerged by albs cus JH/DH had killed em all. This led to some superb fg vs fg fights without adds and a great deal of fun

 

[vintervargen]

i heard JH owned on pryd.

 

[Arnor]

Yeah, hibs was so overpowered back in the savage era. With all the other pwning hib fgs back then i dont understand how we managed to get any rps at all.

no, hib as a realm wasnt very overpowered. Hib had the short end of the stick in 1.62-1.65.
That said, and no disrespect, you are very good players. Fact was though, you did own, you DID get rps faster then you could breathe air, and that was mainly through your skill as a group and as players. But dont come here and pretend that your groupsetup was really shitty and you had no chance. Looking at pure stats, yes you should have lost alot more then you did, but even then, you did have some things going for you excepting the playerskills. To deny this is folly, and garb comming here sounding off at how imba mid is and how you all have no chance against mythics lovechild is kinda funny.
Hibernia had its time in the sun, just like alb and mid has (though mid has had alot of it, no denying that)
What really pokes my curiosity though is this:
Mid gains since NF: gimp-sos, gimp-bof and access to 3x divine intervention and 3x zephyr to fuck boaters
Mid losses since NF: uber pf gimped, prevent flight even worse, savages ra-raped, determination nerf, crappy archer class, loss of relics and lets see, yeah sandwiched between hibs&albs.

Now, overall i would rate this a pretty crappy change for a very overpowered mid @ toa 1.68.
But all of a sudden, from almost blue skyes, here comes garba, player of the best possible castergroupsetup of all the realms since i dunno when till nf with the whine. he could atleast have had the decency to whine when mid was at its best, not at this faded past 50 age tbh.

 

[Danya]

Hib also lost relics Arnor, relics we held for over 2 years. It sucks.

 

[Seculzeran]

DAOC has been going for ages - time for a change, roll on WoW imo

 

[Arnor]

Hib also lost relics Arnor, relics we held for over 2 years. It sucks.

thats true, even though no hibs will admit it but you ^^

 

[Garbannoch]

no, hib as a realm wasnt very overpowered. Hib had the short end of the stick in 1.62-1.65.
That said, and no disrespect, you are very good players. Fact was though, you did own, you DID get rps faster then you could breathe air, and that was mainly through your skill as a group and as players. But dont come here and pretend that your groupsetup was really shitty and you had no chance. Looking at pure stats, yes you should have lost alot more then you did, but even then, you did have some things going for you excepting the playerskills. To deny this is folly, and garb comming here sounding off at how imba mid is and how you all have no chance against mythics lovechild is kinda funny.
Hibernia had its time in the sun, just like alb and mid has (though mid has had alot of it, no denying that)
What really pokes my curiosity though is this:
Mid gains since NF: gimp-sos, gimp-bof and access to 3x divine intervention and 3x zephyr to fuck boaters
Mid losses since NF: uber pf gimped, prevent flight even worse, savages ra-raped, determination nerf, crappy archer class, loss of relics and lets see, yeah sandwiched between hibs&albs.

Now, overall i would rate this a pretty crappy change for a very overpowered mid @ toa 1.68.
But all of a sudden, from almost blue skyes, here comes garba, player of the best possible castergroupsetup of all the realms since i dunno when till nf with the whine. he could atleast have had the decency to whine when mid was at its best, not at this faded past 50 age tbh.

It doesnt matter what once was. Just look at the state of RvR now. I see about 10 mid RvR groups when I see maybe 1 or 2 hib groups and not many alb ones either (no I am not talking about the zergs but dedicated RvR groups). I see lots of albs leaving for mid. How many mids have left for alb/hib and how many albs have joined hib? Close to zero. Look at the growing population of mid and at the same time see hib and even alb population go down.
I could have whined when mid was at its best? I don't see how mid is not at its best now. Mid has been the best realm RvR-wise for 2 or so years. Now it is better than it ever was. It not only got almost same population as alb now but also overpowered classes and possible group setups (3 healer, shaman beats everything the 2 other realms can come up with no matter which classes fill the other 4 slots).
Right now the mid advantage is not so visible cause there is still a lot of zerg and keep RvR going on. This will, however, change in the course of the next couple of weeks.

 

[Arnor]

It doesnt matter what once was. Just look at the state of RvR now. I see about 10 mid RvR groups when I see maybe 1 or 2 hib groups and not many alb ones either (no I am not talking about the zergs but dedicated RvR groups). I see lots of albs leaving for mid. How many mids have left for alb/hib and how many albs have joined hib? Close to zero. Look at the growing population of mid and at the same time see hib and even alb population go down.
I could have whined when mid was at its best? I don't see how mid is not at its best now. Mid has been the best realm RvR-wise for 2 or so years. Now it is better than it ever was. It not only got almost same population as alb now but also overpowered classes and possible group setups (3 healer, shaman beats everything the 2 other realms can come up with no matter which classes fill the other 4 slots).
Right now the mid advantage is not so visible cause there is still a lot of zerg and keep RvR going on. This will, however, change in the course of the next couple of weeks.

active rvr groups
umm, yeah and?
albs have always had a very small % of rvr groups compared to hib/mid
hibs havent exactly been very shorthanded on rvr groups(especially very high rr ppl) pre nf.
Now, half of hibernias high rr players(prolly even more lol) left in/around nf launch. Speculate all you want, but there gotta be some convergency between that amount of hibs leaving and nf arriving(be it loss of relics, loss of gp, arrival of wow or radar or underpopulation)
Mid has had it easy in fg rvr, no two ways about it. We've had a very strong backbone in a group, and not having to gimp our damage output significantly to do so. We've had prenerf zerkers, savages and now we have 3x soj and sh etc.
But hibs have been able to compete, especially post toa. You can whine all you want, but albs got the sharp end of the stick in toa(fg v fg wise) mid was best off(cept maybe @ 25% castspeed) and hib came second.

Yes some ppl have rerolled mid, not that many as you try to make it seem though, my guess would be ~20 ppl.

"I don't see how mid is not at its best now. Mid has been the best realm RvR-wise for 2 or so years. Now it is better than it ever was. It not only got almost same population as alb now but also overpowered classes and possible group setups (3 healer, shaman beats everything the 2 other realms can come up with no matter which classes fill the other 4 slots)."

As i said earlier, mid isnt at its best now. The stuff your whining about now, we've had 86% of since pre-toa, and 15% of pre nf (yes imo we lost more then we gained @ nf)

And so you say now that the only reason a fg you bring out(or most of it atleast) can have a chance of EVER beating an opted mid fg would be if you all(or mostly) severely outskilled them?
Take a whiff of cheese cake mate.
YES your skill is more of a factor then for mids, but its not like you could have albs pressing random buttons on the mid-keyboards and they'd still put up a decent fight.
YES a perfectly equally skilled group of players from mid(equal rr and teamplay) would prolly beat you on average more, but not as bad as you try to portrait it.

Wake up garbannoch, you still have a good fighting chance, just like you had pre-nf. We all know mids have alot of advantages in fg fights, but thats nothing else but what you've fought against the last year(ish)

But yes, if you still wanna whine and not make a good group, feel free. I shant trouble you again.

 

[Bracken]

If Wow doesn't prove to be the Holy Grail that everyone assumes it will be then I think we'll see quite a few hibbies drifting back after 1.71. Once they have a chance to get relics again things will start to look different - losing a relic 3 days in to NF was bound to increase the discontent. Didn't matter it was strength, it must just blow to know you are gonna have a hard time for an entire patch. High RR groups aside, I think the average hib fg is about equal to the average alb fg atm (with the loss of gp and only having 1 power relic) - its in the numbers they lose out and atm that's what counts.

 

[lofff]

well, i personally think this is some sort of fotm-chainreaction

its easier to quit now whining than to face the odds, which aint half as bad as ppl paints them here (those who still play actively know it..) and then since that leet guy quitted and said daoc fg rvr is dead .. it must b true! ill quit too!

i quitted daoc pretoa and got rid of my account, due to real life and personal matters i simply didnt have interest/time for daoc, ofc i didnt like the upcoming toa looks and the savage era had been rather tiresome (even tho, i can modestly say i was one of the few hibs running succesfully fg rvr back then) but i didnt whine about it on a quitting thread as a sort of excuse towards the comunity.. dont understand why ppl insists on doing such, you do not need to explain anyone whats ur motto, ur a free man playing a fucking online game just type /quit and if u post something, let it be a regardful msg, making a cheap this-game-is-shit-now-therefore-i-leave-u-should-do-the-same-mate is simply pathetic.

months after quitting, irl stuff settled down and we had plenty of time again, tried some other mmorpgs and decided to give daoc another go (other games just dont hold my interest.. nor wow does, personal taste i guess) hib was dominating rvr bad (no challenge) and wanted to try yet still something different so rolled on mid/exca under a new identity, played 2-3months there, had plenty of fun, also plenty of fustration at times but thats another subject, finally when nf was about to come, hib population had alrdy started dropping drastically, mid inflating.. and ofc, the unvaluable pushing of some rl bastards (sturrm, mov, .. ) we decided to come back to hib, couldnt really enjoy much the last weeks on OF cause of the wonderful open transit service, but other than that and having to upgrade computers to play NF (doh) its all fine, surely the first days with 250albs and 180mids sieging nged at same time were hell, lack of population, superlack of old school players.. but we all knew first nf week/s were gonna b crowdy, no surprises.

and still i must b some sorta masochist according to fh whine since am back in hib and enjoying the game. still playing small scale rvr (3-8 ppl grps) and finding plenty of enemies doing the same, and as i used to say in the past, u cant kill other hibs so whats wrong with not finding that many out there?




just my 2 cents on the most boring/used subject on those boards those days -.-