So just how many hibs are leaving

[Yurka]

If you're getting steamrollered all the time, it's your own fault: look on the realmwar map, and go somewhere there isn't a huge blue/red crossed swords and you'd be fine.

and what happens in the case of keeps/relics? "go somewhere else" ?

 

[eggy]

Wow, eggy, is that avatar really you? You're HOT!

I'll show you my willy as well for 10plat.

 

[Gordonax]

and what happens in the case of keeps/relics? "go somewhere else" ?

/me glances at realmwar map.

Hmm, seems like you have all of your keeps, all of the towers, and have lost one relic because none of you realised which keeps opened the relic doors. I don't think you're having much trouble defending.

 

[Gordonax]

I'll show you my willy as well for 10plat.

**Sob** I only have 9.99 plat!!!

 

[Icebreaker]

/me glances at realmwar map.

Hmm, seems like you have all of your keeps, all of the towers, and have lost one relic because none of you realised which keeps opened the relic doors. I don't think you're having much trouble defending.

Hi MR. Clueless!!!!1111

And btw we didn't got our Keeps back because we had the uber Defence. Only because Albs retreated to go to Midgard. Otherwise we would have Zero Relics now. xD

And we know which Keeps open the Relic Gates. Just tell me how to defend all Keeps against both Mids and Albs.

 

[Yurka]

/me glances at realmwar map.

Hmm, seems like you have all of your keeps, all of the towers, and have lost one relic because none of you realised which keeps opened the relic doors. I don't think you're having much trouble defending.

I haven't played NF at all yet, but from what people were saying both relics were at risk, and in which case it would always be to protect the power relic (which could have been taken by albs, if we were protecting the str relic from mid).

Hib just doesn't have the numbers to defend both, let alone compete with the numbers that both albs and mids can muster to try and even the number wars.

As for the steam rolling/stay away from the crosses...

the warmap doesn't show where the zerg, or smaller parts of the zerg are at the time of moving/not fighting and i'd think it wouldn't be an easy task of just "go around the zerg". SWs can hinder groups getting away from the zerg, and once one of the group has been engaged into a fight its hard for the group to let him go and to come back and rezz him in 5 mins time aslong as the zerg as moved on.

Considering theres 3 frontiers of activity i would think its hard to always stay away from 70% (albs + mids) of the server. Im not saying hib doesn't want to engage in rvr at all but in more suitable number, where the odds are more even. Until there are smaller zergs, which has a more representative size of what a hib zerg would be then hibs are always going to get pretty much steamrolled everytime. But thats too much of an idealistic thought to happen on an internet game where vast numbers are concerned.

 

[Tsukiko]

If you guys really care so much about the hib population thats dropping, maybe you should think about rerolling to hib instead of the crossrealming from alb to mid, and mid to alb.

 

[Gordonax]

Hi MR. Clueless!!!!1111

And btw we didn't got our Keeps back because we had the uber Defence. Only because Albs retreated to go to Midgard. Otherwise we would have Zero Relics now. xD

And we know which Keeps open the Relic Gates. Just tell me how to defend all Keeps against both Mids and Albs.

Clueless I may be, but the facts are on my side. Yes, you did uber defence. But being able to do uber defence shows that you you *can* defend against larger numbers. I'm not saying you don't have the lowest numbers in RvR: but that doesn't stop you defended effectively.

And *any* realm that was attacked by both others at the same time would lose keeps and probably relics. Even Albion.

As for whether you know which keeps open the relic gates... the facts of Ardamel's raid suggest that at least some of you don't.

 

[Radix]

The 2nd day we were desperately holding on to our last 3 keeps lol, the only ones who had been allowed to go over lvl4.
its not like we could magicly take another keep out of the blue while all this happened, if we "realized" the flame on relic might mean trouble.

 

[Coccas]

scary to see how many retarded people can fit into one forum

 

[Danya]

If you're getting steamrollered all the time, it's your own fault: look on the realmwar map, and go somewhere there isn't a huge blue/red crossed swords and you'd be fine.

When it's a case of hit the zerg or run about doing nothing, both kinda suck.

 

[Elewyth]

hahah i find it funny all these posts about seeya in WoW... do you really think WoW PvP will be any better? the answer is NO it wont, it will end up like fucking UO Factions.. whoever has the biggest zerg wins.. but honestly good luck thinking you'll get FG action in WoW cos you wont.

 

[Gordonax]

When it's a case of hit the zerg or run about doing nothing, both kinda suck.

There are *loads* of places where you can find fights without getting the zerg. For example, look at the rw map and work out the routes that smaller groups will take to get to a big fight. Then block off those routes. Look for choke points, drop off points. Keep moving, instead of staying static.

NF has lots of variety in it - it doesn't have to be all zerg. It just takes a little thinking, instead of the old "run AMG/runMMG" attitude of OF.

 

[Edaemos]

hahah i find it funny all these posts about seeya in WoW... do you really think WoW PvP will be any better? the answer is NO it wont, it will end up like fucking UO Factions.. whoever has the biggest zerg wins.. but honestly good luck thinking you'll get FG action in WoW cos you wont.

UO factions were great until they added [blessed] runic weapons

 

[Fana]

Well, Hibs took Blend with 54 people at 3.30 am this morning, when the entire midgard level 50 population was below 50 (and keep was defended by 8 people) - so imo they cant have that much of a population problem Took them alot of time tho so maybe its good leaders that people will follow that they lack.

 

[noaim]

hahah i find it funny all these posts about seeya in WoW... do you really think WoW PvP will be any better? the answer is NO it wont, it will end up like fucking UO Factions.. whoever has the biggest zerg wins.. but honestly good luck thinking you'll get FG action in WoW cos you wont.

Have to agree with you. Considering the amount of people will probably play WoW, its not that hard to figure out what it will lead to (both lag- and zergwise).

 

[Miril]

We were not 54, guess that included some albs too.

 

[Votan]

WoW.. heh.. the main thing that worries me about WoW is having all those D2 bnet morons coming over and killing the fun. Sure there are good players but they are far outnumbered by the "ebay kiddies".

 

[Bloodaxe_Springskalle]

People quit for different reason, some quit as the game is no longer fun, some quit because the people they used to play RvR with have left, some quit because they hate to lose and some just because they are bored senseless.

All are valid reasons, but to blame the mass excodus on a nerf of animist pets is truly just flame bait

aight, i thought it was due to radar, but now i see that bards just have innate ability to find everyone that unstealth.
so the real reasons they quit is becos they cant farm PvE as effective as earlier or suddenly woke up after years of nerd slumber and wanted to become something in life? yeah right!

and strangely enough "1337" groups isnt as skilled in zerg avoiding anymore, might it be cos the 6th sense drivers has left?

 

[LordjOX]

hahah i find it funny all these posts about seeya in WoW... do you really think WoW PvP will be any better? the answer is NO it wont, it will end up like fucking UO Factions.. whoever has the biggest zerg wins.. but honestly good luck thinking you'll get FG action in WoW cos you wont.

Dont think thats ppl want in wow ,.- ppl want sumthing else than this stressing shit game i reckon, or i might be wrong ;o

 

[Bloodaxe_Springskalle]

DAoC wasnt stressing until ML's came along...
when you scroll up after you are dead u dont understand half of what damaged you unless your an expert.
well, what can i say.. my highest ML is 2 and i havent even read about my own ML cos i dont really care about it......
im of the idea of that "less is more" while mythic is more of a "too much is not enough" policy.
i've been thinking about quitting cos of the latest expansions myself, but i doubt that will be the final reason if i quit.
i still like the game, but it was better a while ago...

 

[lekkus]

As soon as albion find out there is something like 'raid' in WoW and therefore not limited to 5 in a grp they will leave too

 

[Asha]

hahah i find it funny all these posts about seeya in WoW... do you really think WoW PvP will be any better? the answer is NO it wont, it will end up like fucking UO Factions.. whoever has the biggest zerg wins.. but honestly good luck thinking you'll get FG action in WoW cos you wont.

can I borrow your crystal ball?
wow is going to have battlegrounds btw
I don't know if that makes for better pvp...
Compairing WoW pvp to DAoC pvp at release... plz. DAoC pvp was Email bowl, Mids at tower, Albs at amg and hibs coming from DC. Or my fav... camping mpk and one moron pulling the guards and we all had to run to apk or die. It evolved very slowly.
I keep hearing people talk about end game. They forget that DAoC released with NO end game other than relics and keeps. It wasn't exactly complex or anything. There were no RAs or tables or etc.
And I don't blame hibbies for quitting. No group purge pretty much fucks them considering healer vs. bard vs. sorc - no question. Why would you want to play the smallest realm w/o chance of having relics and being totally gimped? Sounds like so much fun to me.

 

[Dorin]

No group purge pretty much fucks them considering healer vs. bard vs. sorc - no question. Why would you want to play the smallest realm w/o chance of having relics and being totally gimped? Sounds like so much fun to me.

challenge ? or ppl dont like that ?

 

[Asha]

There is a challenge, and then there is taking the piss. I think it was challenging for Hibs before these changes. There was a period where Hibs were overpowered, but it passed over a year ago.

 

[Tsukiko]

challenge ? or ppl dont like that ?

yeah such a challenge, thats why you play mid/excal now and is your NS as good as retired huh?

 

[Garbannoch]

challenge ? or ppl dont like that ?

lol mids and challenge... the only thing challenging in midgard is how to fit all instas on one quickbar

honestly the loss of GP is insignificant in the current state of the game, which is zerg fights. nothign else.
The loss of GP will be noticeable once (if?) the RvR returns to OF-style fg fights - now it doesnt matter in the slightest way (I don't even have purge1 on my eld; the few hours I play per week I am usually solo)

What will fuck up excal is midgard dominance. Albs might be outzerging the other realms atm but in the long run it will be midgard dominating relics and rvr on excal to a point where hibs and even albs will start losing interest. Sickening overpoweredness through classes + zerg + relics is a dangerous combination and midgard is heading that direction.

 

[Clipse]

challenge ? or ppl dont like that ?

ok Dorins very chalenging

wake up

 

[Dorin]

yeah such a challenge, thats why you play mid/excal now and is your NS as good as retired huh?

1, i got bored with stealthers (had ranger since retail then a ns )
2, tried excal/alb as my chanter wasnt much use / welcome in my guild's grp at that time (BM grps4tehwin back then)
3, guild died on excal after 2 months, couldnt get enough ppl together to continue, got bored with that and /who emain 150. So went back to prydwen, played ns to rr6 (which took me a while, cuz alb/prydwen rvsr was 2 fg visible players rest played stealthers, got some nice pictars of it still, was amusing and ofc i sucked etc )
4, rerolled to mid/exc couse: i was a hib on prydwen and never xpected to see 0 hibs in rvsr on excal. (vengenance, LA, dh, elwizm8r etc were pretty much active then). Also it was a pure hungarian guild on excal, just filled it with some pry/alb-hib .hu players.
5, leveled up, fotm nerfud svg. Had 1 month pure fun with my country man, then toa came and ppl quit, gave up bla bla. Finished toa on svg somewhat, realised playing tank classes doesnt fit me, so rolled sm (bad luck, should have rolled rm xD). Still shitloads of hibs in emain (elwizardo and m8s, sharpo - stajjijjon - popov based grps... sry only know caster names)
6, started new guild with oldschool ppl from alb-mid/exc - hib/pry and here iam today, having fun.

Tbh doesnt matter which realm, going with FG is a hard task as it was preTOA-preNF-preSI.

 

[Dorin]

ok Dorins very chalenging

wake up

soo 24/7 players farming warders (xpect a few nice dudes fro mthat bunch, especialyl plask AE-DDer of d00m lol),,, saw better from hibs when grapple went live... so what, mids quit?