So.. buffshearing & focusshield..

Xsorus-Merlin

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You'd be surprised how little buff shearing is used

I know I thought it was kill rvr, but then it turned out no one bothers with it cept me when defending towers
 

Asha

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Spyf said:
Like finding a enh specced cleric NOT standing at atk bumping head against the wall
there is tons of enh specced clerics at apk :x

I would be really shocked if mids don't use shearing...
 

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Ilienwyn said:
Nerf that pbaoe disease or at least give a logical timer (2-5mins)!! :D

Already nerfed, group cure dis, which is not so hard to cast, especially for clerics as they got nothing else to do than heal+ stay alive somehow ;o/
 

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Lothandar said:
Already nerfed, group cure dis, which is not so hard to cast, especially for clerics as they got nothing else to do than heal+ stay alive somehow ;o/
are you from prydwen or smth?
 

cougar

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Asha said:
there is tons of enh specced clerics at apk :x

I would be really shocked if mids don't use shearing...

ofc we use it :wub:
 

Dorin

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Flimgoblin said:
guess it helps the gank mid groups but not the pickup ones then?

yes, the few active shammies are mostly in gank grps. finding an active shammy at mpk is a pain (finding a decent one which does more then buff , rebuff afk, happened once in 6months:p)-, was easier to find a reju cleric at apk just for comparison:))
 

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yaruar said:
The key word is "used" here ;)

Most of the played shamen i used to know rerolled as all they were being used for was end as bots performed all other buffing rolls.

But yeah, seems silly to make shamen even more forced to purely spec aug. They really should have put shearing in the cave line to bolster that + taken a long hard look at the useless mend line.....

u on drugs or what?
good shaman is 90% of success of mid group
end bot rofl
we play with 43 aug 31 cave shaman (prolly will respec to 44 aug)
and he doesnt perform like an end bot
initially he had 39 cave, but then respecced to 31 cave cuz of mana drain, maybe 27 cave will be optimal
 

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old.anubis said:
u on drugs or what?
good shaman is 90% of success of mid group
end bot rofl

No, i understand the need for a good played shamen, shame most people don't. Yeah the GG's run with played shamen but there are rarely any played shamen hanging about outside of these so most groups are forced to run with a shamen on stick for end.

Personally i'm leveling my shamen to be played. Unsure of final spec but with shearing i suspect i will go 44 aug and the rest in cave.
 

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Hero
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Chanter
Eldrich
Heal Druid
Buff Druid
Bard
Warden

Buff/Cave Shammy
Pac/Heal Healer
Buff/Heal Healer
Skald
Savage
Savage
Savage
Savage

Sorc
Heal/Buff Cleric
Buff/Heal Cleric
Mincer
Pally
Caby
Caby
Sorc

I think the chances to utilise buff shearing is pretty easy really, all these are reasonable viable grps including buff shearers. In my opinion anyway :)
 

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Belomar said:
All hibs and albs basically need a buff shearer so you can make Mid Savages grappleable. ;)

hi 2 u 2 .. theres like max 3-4 savages with 28 buffs and not 24/7 also, so u dont need buff shearer .. and if u do, shear dex from casters/healers ;x
 

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Tsabo said:
Hero
Chanter
Chanter
Eldrich
Heal Druid
Buff Druid
Bard
Warden

Buff/Cave Shammy
Pac/Heal Healer
Buff/Heal Healer
Skald
Savage
Savage
Savage
Savage

Sorc
Heal/Buff Cleric
Buff/Heal Cleric
Mincer
Pally
Caby
Caby
Sorc

I think the chances to utilise buff shearing is pretty easy really, all these are reasonable viable grps including buff shearers. In my opinion anyway :)


so, albs and hibs will have only 1 healing class ? ;x .. najs and drooods with 31 reg heal very najs with heal bonus etc :x .. also najs booofs
 

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Jika said:
so, albs and hibs will have only 1 healing class ? ;x .. najs and drooods with 31 reg heal very najs with heal bonus etc :x .. also najs booofs
I don't think anyone denies that hibs get the shaft as well, but this patch is just kicking albion while its down :)
 

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Jika said:
so, albs and hibs will have only 1 healing class ? ;x .. najs and drooods with 31 reg heal very najs with heal bonus etc :x .. also najs booofs

Hibs have 4 bloody healing classes in that grp. Albs have 2.

You dont need 2 40+ rejuv classes in an rvr grp, only need 1 spreadhealer, and a few others with 30ish rejuv. With +25% healing and +spec in heals the others can support well.
 

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btw would like to have tried to make a group with a 48e cleric but really there isn't even a fg left to try it with . . . :puke:
 

[NO]Subedai

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been trying this shearing stuff on my cleric, seems ok although resist rates are huge.
 

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Jika said:
theres like max 3-4 savages with 28 buffs and not 24/7 also, so u dont need buff shearer .. and if u do, shear dex from casters/healers ;x
Fine, then stop whining about ungrappleable Savages, dimwit.
 

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[NO]Subedai said:
been trying this shearing stuff on my cleric, seems ok although resist rates are huge.

How much in enhance is your Cleric?
 

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Belomar said:
Fine, then stop whining about ungrappleable Savages, dimwit.


Maybe he is actually playing the game and knows how utter bs that 28effect bug is?

Just maybe..
 

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[NO]Subedai said:
been trying this shearing stuff on my cleric, seems ok although resist rates are huge.
ok then some questions :)

what spec did you get?
they all break cc right?
do they break cc if they are resisted?
do they interupt?
if resisted?
how bad are the cast times with maxed dex ?

that is all :worthy:

I dont have time to do any testing atm :(
 

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I think the worst thing about buff shearing is, that you have to rebuff afterwards and that's a pain....I'm truly glad i'm a nature druid, cause as nurture one I'd go mad with everyone yelling plz gimme xXx buff. If they only deactivated the buff for let's say 1 minute, the spell would be MUCH better.

Btw, Mythic has always been known for implementing shit which nobody wants and it's a real pain for us, no offence to the us-players who read these boards, that we get kicked in the arse just cause a lot of us players (and the TL on top of it) don't know their class. There're bugs which have never been fixed and there're lots of class issues. Why has every realm a different amount of classes? That's a huge problem (in that case for Albion) and I think it should be fixed somehow, maybe by overlapping class utility. You might yell, oh no, alb power now, but I don't see many solutions.

Anyways, nobody over there cares about any tear dropped on these forums, sad but true :(
 

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liloe said:
Why has every realm a different amount of classes? That's a huge problem (in that case for Albion) and I think it should be fixed somehow, (

Patch 1.74 b

Some alb classes have been removed. If You are affected by this and randomly been generated one of the remaining classes, You get a free full respec aswell as a realmability respec. :D
 

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w/o 2 Spread healers most groups are pretty much screwd as there is allways atleast 1 of them interupted and with only 1 in group chances of that being the sh one is pretty large.

alb range on their shear will help in Zerg keep takes tho but as for group rvr its a boot to mid and a nerf to alb as you never have time to shear if you aint winning anyway.
 

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Asha said:
ok then some questions :)

what spec did you get?
they all break cc right?
do they break cc if they are resisted?
do they interupt?
if resisted?
how bad are the cast times with maxed dex ?

that is all :worthy:

I dont have time to do any testing atm :(

1: im 35ench 40 rejuv 9 smite..i intend to respec to 36ench when i can be bothered. resist rate is probaly 20-30%. they break cc, however they do interrupt. cast times are pretty fast tbh, 3.0 spd. they use virtually no power either which is cool so is stlong interrupting at the expense of little power. dunno if they break cc when resisted :p

im 35+11 enhance iirc.
 

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[NO]Subedai said:
1: im 35ench 40 rejuv 9 smite..i intend to respec to 36ench when i can be bothered. resist rate is probaly 20-30%. they break cc, however they do interrupt. cast times are pretty fast tbh, 3.0 spd. they use virtually no power either which is cool so is stlong interrupting at the expense of little power. dunno if they break cc when resisted :p

im 35+11 enhance iirc.
any decent cleric tried 48?

not bbots owners trying to pick up clerics ^^
 

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i guess the resist rate are high because its lvl 35 spell you used, and alittle MoFocus in NF can help that (you prolly got better RA's to spend you RP's on).

i agree on that friar's and warden's should get buff shearing, but it would help hib most as, they allready got a high nut wardens grp, where friar's aint very welcome in grps.
 

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Krane said:
Maybe he is actually playing the game and knows how utter bs that 28effect bug is?
Or maybe, just maybe, he is the grapplebot who loves to whine about Savages abusing the 28 buff bug whenever it suits him, making it out as if the whole of Midgard is doing it, and the next second turns around and claims this is a very rare occurrence not worthy of taking into consideration.

Just maybe...
 

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