So Albs sunken to alarm clock raids now that they can no longer do prime times?

[rure]

All I will say is...

This game has become too much about winning and too little about having fun.

winning is fun, losing is boring :<

 

[bult]

no, the <dont kill any guards> tactic is worse. It's like there is no Relic Raid until they grab the Relic.

Its not worse ;> all that it would have taken to fail is that 1 mid saw us and we would be dead. With 50 people raiding and having all the uberguards on us it wouldnt take much to stop us IF we had been spotted. 300 mids at 7am however cant fail no matter what.

 

[nol]

Come on ffs its SATURDAY, there was 1600!!!!! online on excal when raid started. Very reasonable imo.

1am raids are lame, even on the holiest day in the daoc calender. Raids where the other realm only gets news of a relic going neutral(for the first time) at 2-2:15 is as cheap as 6am raids, but you have a relic now, and 7456 MUZZLLION DEDIKATED RALICRALDERS!! WITH MADSKILLZ! so I don' even know why you're bothering to defend it

 

[Icebreaker]

actually, its enuff that 1 guy bump into us in the middle of the raid and report to the alliances and the whole raid is fubared. something thats NOT possible when there is 20 lvl 50s online.

I think you don't get my Point. Albs will do this Tactic everytime now. On Hibs, on Mids. Whenever they want. Without us knowing anything until the Relic is gone. And this sucks. And this Way a Relic Raid shouldn't work. Takes away the fun of Relic Raiding. Iam sure Hibs and Mids won't have any Relics anymore within the next 2 Weeks.

 

[Gasoline]

Agree with Kevralyn. Albion EASILY has the largest population (and don't start with BS about only 20 albs being online...the way that number varies, you'd think an Alb typed /who 46, and gave a figure), so I guess it's either resort to bringing down the server, or using tactics involving only 50-60 people, from 300 odd at the time. I'll bet some of those albs didn't even KNOW you were going for a relic...
some fun game THIS is turning out to be...

 

[rure]

I think you don't get my Point. Albs will do this Tactic everytime now. On Hibs, on Mids. Whenever they want. Without us knowing anything until the Relic is gone. And this sucks. And this Way a Relic Raid shouldn't work. Takes away the fun of Relic Raiding. Iam sure Hibs and Mids won't have any Relics anymore within the next 2 Weeks.

Yeah, I understand your point. But its the same thing with alarm clock raids. We dont even know the relics are gone before we wake up / come home from work or school.

 

[nol]

hehe why do I have this sneaky suspicion AD was on the raid

 

[Jpeg[LOD]]

300 Mids, many with no abilities but just a lot of guts is GREAT team play

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yup VERY brave mids ..... 300 mids on relic keep at 6-7am in the monring when there was only a handfull of albs online strong tactics!

 

[Skilgannon]

One thing i want to add here. Was a good raid with an interesting tactic but!

It Sucks. It sucks so much. bigtime xD

So do shroom farms!

Hopefully they will be nerfed in NF aswell.

The question is, what is more difficult? The discipline to hold aggro for 30 mins, or putting down a FoP and spam shrooms4tehwin?

 

[Z^^]

I think you don't get my Point. Albs will do this Tactic everytime now. On Hibs, on Mids. Whenever they want. Without us knowing anything until the Relic is gone. And this sucks. And this Way a Relic Raid shouldn't work. Takes away the fun of Relic Raiding. Iam sure Hibs and Mids won't have any Relics anymore within the next 2 Weeks.

aye but then relic raiding is shit so who cares, like noler like to add in rvr and dont care, I personaly dont care about any rules for relic raids.
And gasoline get go buy some clues at eBay.

 

[Draylor]

from 300 odd at the time. I'll bet some of those albs didn't even KNOW you were going for a relic...

Some didnt know? The vast majority didnt have a clue - which is how it has to be. Too many RRs ruined by 'spys' lately, too many people are utterly sick of having their time wasted by that sort of crap.

 

[nol]

So do shroom farms!

Hopefully they will be nerfed in NF aswell.

The question is, what is more difficult? The discipline to hold aggro for 30 mins, or putting down a FoP and spam shrooms4tehwin?

They both suck, but at least with shrooms you get notification that a raid has started, and you can try to respond. What do you do when your relic just goes neutral?

 

[Gasoline]

TBH, this raid is the ultimate wusses option. Even now, with Artifacts, MLs, and various other things, you have to resort to going about a relic raid to make sure nobody knew you were there...
When this 7am Relic Raid happened, SI had only been out for a couple of months...people may well have still been using Lair chain drops for their characters...

I can see the link though..
Albs zerg...
Albs are, therefore, wusses...

Albs take a relic without even LETTING the other side know you're there (we're not so sad as to camp our relic keep 24/7)
Albs are, therefore, wusses...


And before you start throwing it back in my face about the 7am alarm clock raid, albs started alarm clock raids before Mids...
And even with all this smarmy new ToA gear, you're still scared you might have your cover blown?!
If you're scared of others, I'm sure GOA could provide free "apparently reply within 2 working days counselling service..."
Or you could come up with a tactic where you're not looked upon as wusses...

 

[Icebreaker]

So do shroom farms!

Hopefully they will be nerfed in NF aswell.

The question is, what is more difficult? The discipline to hold aggro for 30 mins, or putting down a FoP and spam shrooms4tehwin?

No my friend. Lets see:

We Hibs come to Albion with shrooms and attack the relic:

You get DM's and you can react in time. Going to Relic Keep, MG's whatever

We Hibs come to Albion and attack the Relic with Engage thing:

You get nothing and you can just look canny


got it?

 

[nol]

aye but then relic raiding is shit so who cares, like noler like to add in rvr and dont care, I personaly dont care about any rules for relic raids.
And gasoline get go buy some clues at eBay.

woot, blame me for the raid stlong!

We raided because Noler doesn't care about adding

 

[bult]

Rules for relicraid:

ONLY raid when there is 3000+ players online.
Must bring atleast 300people at once for bigger chance of getting spotted early.
Must kill all guards you see.
NO ML abilitys and preferably no RAs (atleast not SoS and BoF)
NO animists
NO engage
And most importantly erase all memory of you breaking these rules in the past.

 

[Kevralyn]

for JPEG[LOD]

The point JPEG is not so much 300 mids doing an alarm clock raid...its a RR when ALL are welcome, irrespective of class, guild, race or ability


It's ABSOLUTELY NOT a FoTM Raid that exludes so many of your OWN people from having fun.

As a guild we've NEVER turned anyone away, Odin knows how many SBs and Hunters have been turned away by others......as a PvE or RvR group we never turn those classes away because ALL have a right to play and have fun.

Is it possible that the Albs have forgotten the point of the game is for ALL to have FUN? or have the Albs got so suckily elite that the rules of fair play no longer apply to them?

FoTM Raids with 50 people ? You can stick that where the sun doesn't shine..give me a 300 person raid every time (as long as it's after 7am and before 1am)

 

[Z^^]

No my friend. Lets see:

We Hibs come to Albion with shrooms and attack the relic:

You get DM's and you can react in time. Going to Relic Keep, MG's whatever

We Hibs come to Albion and attack the Relic with Engage thing:

You get nothing and you can just look canny


got it?

¨
lol SO FUCKING WHAT
300 shrooms = lag no way of defending

 

[Zzang]

Rules for relicraid:

ONLY raid when there is 3000+ players online.
Must bring atleast 300people at once for bigger chance of getting spotted early.
Must kill all guards you see.
NO ML abilitys and preferably no RAs (atleast not SoS and BoF)
NO animists
NO engage
And most importantly erase all memory of you breaking these rules in the past.

Also erase all memory of albs whining like crybabies when mids did late raid.

 

[Rain]

Thing is, the times we've tried the, "welcome for all", relic raid, somehow, somewhere, someone HAPPEND to mention it to the enemies

 

[bult]

Also erase all memory of albs whining like crybabies when mids did late raid.

Yeah because what mids did was lame and this was not.

 

[Rain]

¨

300 shrooms = lag no way of defending

That, and the instant kill of both players and uber guards

 

[nol]

Sorry mate, you just took part in a raid at 1 am on a Sunday morning, where you stood for 1.15 hours engaging guards with superb finesse, great patience and maximum skill.

And you call me a roleplayer grats on a nice raid, I am going to go to sleep now

You suck, you are no better then morning raiders, in time you will come to understand that.

 

[Rain]

Same here, g'night guys

 

[Margaret]

Why, exactly, is 'roleplayer' an insult on Excalibur?

 

[Calo]

Yeah because what mids did was lame and this was not.

so u justify this but not the 7am raid.. ur just blind really dude.. lol funny how albs keep on going

ur nothing better then an alarm clock raider.. shame u just don't understand that.. ebay a brain

 

[Icebreaker]

¨
lol SO FUCKING WHAT
300 shrooms = lag no way of defending

You can go camp HMG atleast. With your ghey tactic you can do nothing. And on the other Hand when did you tried to defend a Relic Keep against shrooms? Like never? Don't speak about things you don't know. The first Relic Raid we ever used Shrooms was the Day we took back the Power Relic and there was like 0 Albs. Now go and take the other Relics aswell with your roxxor tactic. Since noone can do anything about it.

 

[Zzang]

Yeah because what mids did was lame and this was not.

sure it wasnt

 

[Gasoline]

Now go and take the other Relics aswell with your roxxor tactic. Since noone can do anything about it.

Lamer Albs.
nn

 

[Mall]

Nice raid Aussie