Smoking Ban

[Olgaline]

So british smokers, how you feel about it ?
i primarily want to hear smokers pov...so please keep the holier than thou speaches to a minimum thanks.!

 

[Raven]

i think its a stupid idea and not very well thought out, but then thats the same as any other labour "good idea" its just so they can get some sound bites

 

[Karl]

Im a regular smoker and im looking forward to the ban...

I have wanted to give up for quite some time now, and i just cant, as soon as im in a pub and had a couple of pints, the smokey atmosphere kicks in and i start getting really techy for my ciggy.... so I go on the blag.

Maybe that should be solved with me having more will power.... but... i lose it all when drinking.

The other thing that stops me giving up is my love of Cannabis.... im never going to give up tabacco completly, well possibly one day in the far future, but the ban will make it a lot easier for me to stop smoking rollies while out... and only smoke spliffs when im at home.

 

[Lamp]

To what extent (if any) will tobacco revenues in the UK be hit ?

 

[Karl]

really depends how many people take the opportunity to give up or not i guess...

Anyone not giving up isnt going to smoke less, they are just going to have to smoke outside.

I guess tabacco sales in pubs and restrauants may get hit, if they are non-smoking pubs im not sure if they will sell it in machines/behind the counter anymore...

Any sort of a hit to that industry is a good thing though i suppose.

Could be of interest: http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Co...l_pageid=968332188492&call_pagepath=News/News

 

[Lamp]

Gonna be wierd. I just can't see the regulars down my local going outside for a fag ROFL. Guess everyone on first names terms with the guvnor will just go upstairs. Will end up having two-tier pub / private residence members club type thing as landlord obviously lives above the pub.

 

[Karl]

Yes, in local / small pubs im not sure how strict they will be on it...

The lock-ins I keep finding myself at recently im sure will still be able to smoke thre... being after hours and doors locked.

 

[Lamp]

Very true. Ye olde locke inn.

 

[Ezteq]

they have a no smoking thing in australia but there its nice and warm and when you have to go out for a fag you dont run the risk of drowning, getting blown inside out of being decapitated by hail stones whereas in the uk the weather sucks for about 10 months of the year.

I smoke (3 a day woo) used to smoke more but got a bit sick of it, one thing i loved was going for a nice meal and having a smoke after my food, its not going to kill me to not be able to do that any more but then i dont really smoke when im not at home now anyway, i still think its daft though i mean talk about human rights, they bring out 24hr drinking and ban smoking..... err anyone else see this as a bit odd?

anyhoo it doesnt affect me so im not too bothered but i am sick of smokers getting the raw deal and folk treating them like mass murderers.

 

[Chronictank]

anyhoo it doesnt affect me so im not too bothered but i am sick of smokers getting the raw deal and folk treating them like mass murderers.

and the poor sods who work in the pubs/bars who have to breathe in the shit smokers spew out?

Will it affect sales? most likely initially, but i have seen a few pubs already putting up canopies and outdoor heaters for smokers so probably not that much of a impact on the industry in the long run

 

[Karl]

i still think its daft though i mean talk about human rights, they bring out 24hr drinking and ban smoking..... err anyone else see this as a bit odd?

The reason they have banned smoking is because people who dont smoke... are forced to passivly smoke in smokey enviroments...

if you chose not to drink at a pub, short of having a drink spilled down your throat, your not going to be passivly drinking

 

[Ezteq]

well tbh if thats the case they should ban people from being arseholes because when i leave the safety of me humble abode im generally forced to work with them, listen to them and am totally unable to defend myself from there gigantic human leacheyness.


(i've tried stabbing them with cigerettes and spraying them with raid but nothing works, ban em imo!)

 

[Thorwyn]

a look into the crystal ball:

http://www.orschlurch.de/myshortz.php?wmv=wernichthoerenwill.wmv

 

[Karl]

well tbh if thats the case they should ban people from being arseholes because when i leave the safety of me humble abode im generally forced to work with them, listen to them and am totally unable to defend myself from there gigantic human leacheyness.


(i've tried stabbing them with cigerettes and spraying them with raid but nothing works, ban em imo!)

lol... if only

Where would the line be drawn though!?! Would you have to take an Arsehole test? to see if you were one or not.... i suppose we could work on a Rep system, similar to FH

 

[Haggus]

I GAVE UP TWO WEEKS AGO !!!!!!

wankers......... xD

Nah I don't mind smokers. Once being a smoker myself I know whats it's like to need a fag and be able to spark one up anywere.

Now you can't. There will be alot of fuss about pubs lifting the ban

 

[Naetha]

Personally I'm really glad the smoking ban has come in. For me, its all about choice - I want to be able to have the choice of going to a pub with my friends, and knowing that I won't come back:
a) Stinking of cigarette smoke in my hair, my clothes, my skin.
b) My eyes stinging and itching.
c) Unable to breathe properly for a week as I have mild asthma.
and most importantly:
d) An increased chance of dying of cancer caused by something that is out of my control and someone else's choice.

I don't care if people smoke - it doesn't bother me one bit that one in three deaths from cancer in the UK is caused by smoking - as long as it doesn't effect me. I've smoked, and I would never do it again.

Stats from: http://www.ash.org.uk/

 

[Haggus]

Smoking doesn't cause cancer. I hate people that have been hypocrytically lead to belive this...

 

[Jeros]

Personally I'm really glad the smoking ban has come in. For me, its all about choice - I want to be able to have the choice of going to a pub with my friends, and knowing that I won't come back:
a) Stinking of cigarette smoke in my hair, my clothes, my skin.
b) My eyes stinging and itching.
c) Unable to breathe properly for a week as I have mild asthma.
and most importantly:
d) An increased chance of dying of cancer caused by something that is out of my control and someone else's choice.

I don't care if people smoke - it doesn't bother me one bit that one in three deaths from cancer in the UK is caused by smoking - as long as it doesn't effect me. I've smoked, and I would never do it again.

Stats from: http://www.ash.org.uk/

agree completely

 

[Naetha]

Smoking doesn't cause cancer. I hate people that have been hypocrytically lead to belive this...

Facts not opinion please - back them up.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Cancer evidently(can't be arsed to find the article/med stuff now) is a defect in the human body, embedded into the genome.

Smoking is one of many ways to make it "active".

So smoking doesn't cause it,but it doesn't prevent it.

I don't care myself, if i can't smoke somewhere, i go smoke where i can. Outside, smoke house, whatnot.

BAr experience unhindered by this.

Only problem is, now you can't take a pint outside and you can't take a smoke inside. Smokepint is dead. Long live smokepint.

 

[noblok]

Facts not opinion please - back them up.

It's what the smoking industry used to say for a long time. The idea was that the tests are conducted in a way which cannot prove that smoking causes cancer.

You have two groups of people: smokers and non-smokers. You notice that in the group of smokers more people get cancer. There is no way to prove that this is because of their smoking.

It's a silly argument and maybe Haggus based his opinion on something else, but that's what I know of it .

 

[Karl]

Personally I'm really glad the smoking ban has come in. For me, its all about choice - I want to be able to have the choice of going to a pub with my friends, and knowing that I won't come back:
a) Stinking of cigarette smoke in my hair, my clothes, my skin.
b) My eyes stinging and itching.
c) Unable to breathe properly for a week as I have mild asthma.
and most importantly:
d) An increased chance of dying of cancer caused by something that is out of my control and someone else's choice.

I don't care if people smoke - it doesn't bother me one bit that one in three deaths from cancer in the UK is caused by smoking - as long as it doesn't effect me. I've smoked, and I would never do it again.

Stats from: http://www.ash.org.uk/

I agree with you here... i do smoke... i dont think it should be forced on people like yourself...

I smoke outside whereever possible...

 

[Haggus]

It's not an opinion Naetha. It's a fact, I cba to look it up but if your really fused about it nothing stops you from doing it. This is what I do know.

Cancer is a mytossis(sp?) of WHITE blood cells.

Everyone and EVERYONE has white blood cells inside them so therefor we all have cancer inside us it's just a matter of time or luck if it starts.

My family have been smokers for generations, not one of them has died to cancer. My uncle smoked for nearly or around 60 years, no cancer.

My mothers friend on the other hand smoked for near 40ish years and had no problems with it. Soon as she gave up she got cancer.

It becomes a habbit and it depends on how your body takes it, if it accepts it then you can be a happy smoker and nothing will happen to you. If it doesn't then the result can be cancer. You can't blame smoking for triggering the cancer inside you. You CAN blame the people who get the cancer as all the warnings are there so therefor it's there problem. (sorry if I offended anyone with this last comment)

I can see why people want smoking out of pubs, as imo pubs are worse for you than doing class A drugs but doesn't stop anyone, and I do agree with you Naetha. It is disgusting and thats why I gave up.

I'm going to arise the argument now that they should ban drinking in pubs because it intises me to drink when I have to drive home.

 

[DocWolfe]

Personally I'm really glad the smoking ban has come in. For me, its all about choice - I want to be able to have the choice of going to a pub with my friends, and knowing that I won't come back:
a) Stinking of cigarette smoke in my hair, my clothes, my skin.
b) My eyes stinging and itching.
c) Unable to breathe properly for a week as I have mild asthma.
and most importantly:
d) An increased chance of dying of cancer caused by something that is out of my control and someone else's choice.

I don't care if people smoke - it doesn't bother me one bit that one in three deaths from cancer in the UK is caused by smoking - as long as it doesn't effect me. I've smoked, and I would never do it again.

Stats from: http://www.ash.org.uk/

I dont have a problem with people smoking, prolly due to putting up with my parents smoking in front of me for the last 20 years. However I agree it makes your clothes stink, literally whenever I'm back at home, and I go round a mates house they always ask me if I've been smoking. I also have "mild asthma" after a couple of puffs on my inhaler in the morning after a night out... I'm fine.

 

[DocWolfe]

It's not an opinion Naetha. It's a fact, I cba to look it up but if your really fused about it nothing stops you from doing it. This is what I do know.

Cancer is a mytossis(sp?) of WHITE blood cells.

Everyone and EVERYONE has white blood cells inside them so therefor we all have cancer inside us it's just a matter of time or luck if it starts.

My family have been smokers for generations, not one of them has died to cancer. My uncle smoked for nearly or around 60 years, no cancer.

My mothers friend on the other hand smoked for near 40ish years and had no problems with it. Soon as she gave up she got cancer.

It becomes a habbit and it depends on how your body takes it, if it accepts it then you can be a happy smoker and nothing will happen to you. If it doesn't then the result can be cancer. You can't blame smoking for triggering the cancer inside you. You CAN blame the people who get the cancer as all the warnings are there so therefor it's there problem. (sorry if I offended anyone with this last comment)

I can see why people want smoking out of pubs, as imo pubs are worse for you than doing class A drugs but doesn't stop anyone, and I do agree with you Naetha. It is disgusting and thats why I gave up.

I'm going to arise the argument now that they should ban drinking in pubs because it intises me to drink when I have to drive home.

Regardless of whether or not it causes cancer tar build up in in the lungs is a serious threat. I've watched my dad cough up black mucus because of his smoking for the last 50 years, he cant even go up a flight of stairs without being short of breath and hes not particularly overweight.

 

[Ormorof]

hurray

 

[Olgaline]

Right, this really wasnt ment as a for or against smoking in general thread, altho i guess i should have known better than to expect anything appart from just that

so to clear it up..

Yes smoking is disgusting,
Yes passive smoking is bad, or at least uncomfertable for none smokers,
yes there seems to be a trend link between smoking and some forms of cancer..

Ok good..now that we've established that..lets move on...Please.!! to what i was looking at as the discussion point of this and the reason i made the thread...ok ?

how do you feel about the inforcement of a smoking ban by law ? or should it be the pub/resturants choice ? and do you see or dont see any danger in that kind of goverment inforced legislation ?

...discuss ...

 

[scorge]

alcohol causes just as much problems as smoking but they dont ban that do they?

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[Gahn]

U gonna get suited quite quickly, we got it in Italy from 3 years and, tbh, pubs and so on are really more livable atm (smoking person pov).

 

[eggy]

alcohol causes just as much problems as smoking but they dont ban that do they?

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If you drink a pint in a pub, the guy next to you can drink a coke and not be intoxicated.

God I wish you did, could just sit at the bar for 20 minutes then go straight to the gay ba....urm I mean heterosexual club.