SM Pet Nerf

[rynnor]

Its coming - I can feel it already

There's been a few threads in the Devs board already complaining that it took a couple more seconds to kill the SM (have'nt seen one where the SM won the fight yet but nobody seems to notice that little detail).

I'll happily swap this for enchanter pets or even any pet with range - instead we'll eventually have it nerfed to hell and still never get a ranged pet

I like the bit where the guy says that melees can only intercept once he obviously never presses the intercept button after a sucessfull intercept

 

[Litmus]

yip yip, nerf SM pets while chanter pets keep getting love, makes sence

 

[Falcon]

I think people just got a bit pissed off at trying to hit the SM and ending up hitting the pet whilst the SM happily PBAE's away at them. I doubt it will get nerfed, with the amount of whining Zerkers have done at being brought into line with the rest of the light tanks I doubt Mythic have the balls to nerf Midgard again.

 

[rynnor]

Some guy ran a bunch of tests and the % intercept depends on how close the SM is to pet up to a max of 75% intercept rate if the SM basically stood inside the pet.

Its nice but against a duel wielder its not gonna keep me alive much longer and I'd still swap it for a ranged pet (which is the reason we got this in the first place) - aside from the fact that I mostly die to ranged nuke or area effect dot I was looking forward to duelling the local zerker come 1.62

 

[Old Nicodemus]

It just means the fecking dumb asshole tanks will have to get some casters or archers in their groups is all.

Fecking morons.

Yeah right. The pet finally gets to do something useful and the ignorant whiners get all uppity over it. So you can't kill an SM in 2 hits like you did before.. "they are so overpowered" Give me a break.

Get casters to take out casters. The pet can't intercept a spell.

It just means you have to THINK about it is all.

People maybe intelligent but common sense is a rare commodity in the US.

 

[Roo Stercogburn]

Amusing. Obviously the guy doesn't know how to use intercept himself or ignores the fact it needs reset after use.

I'm guessing you're referring to Spiritmaster pet intercept needs to be looked at.

It doesn't seem to be overpowered, though we don't have it and can't accurately comment.

I can't see it getting nerfed. I think its just jealousy Hib and Alb caster pets don't have this ability but as has been said: Give me a pet with ranged ability over an intercept any day of the week.

As the SM TL pointed out in his 1.62 report, SM still has the overall weakest pet out of the primary pet classes for all 3 realms though don't let Junior know, it would upset him.

 

[Falcon]

I think it's fine that SMs get some more defence, what worries me is that intercepts don't cause the caster to be interupted, it really could cause serious harm being allowed to PBAE whilst tanks are trying to subdue him, MoC PBAE alone is nasty enough (something all realms get) but giving SMs an essentially free yet admittedly random, due to only being a % chance it's not going to be a guaranteed chance to cast is quite a nasty thing. There's been a few whines on the stalker boards about NS having 15 out of 17 hits being intercepted including PA (Which is let's face it a royal shitter for assassins), however I know full well 99% of stuff on vn boards is just totally exagerated so only time will tell the truth.

One question, can the pets intercept arrows also?

 

[parisienscot]

Good point Falcon - sounds almost as a bad as a PBAOEr whose resists are so high he can only be mezzed / stunned for a millisecond. Oh wait - we already have that.

Give ice wizards more love I say.

 

[rynnor]

Originally posted by Falcon
One question, can the pets intercept arrows also?

Nope and this comes in with the archer rapid fire patch so no realm will find it tough to kill casters.

 

[kinag]

Theres nothing wrong with the SM pet, leave it alone, go yell for nerfs about other classes wich actually needs it.
People die and yell right away "Nerf, that bastard killed me!!1"..

 

[The Kingpin]

Seriously, they can piss off, Enchanters have had uber pets since 1.50 i think or was it 1.52.

The SM pet is the weakest in melee out of all the pet classes, it also has o form of range attack, it has been ignored by mythic for eons, the pet is finally usfull and as usal, the Albs cry nerf, well kiss my ass, they ernt getting my pet nerfed, as for one its usfull.

Casters are already walking rps, tanks cry us a river that they can't 2 shot the poor helpless caster, its a Tank v Tank game most of the time now, due to massive resists, nerfing a SM only decent pet addon, it god damn stupid.

 

[Driwen]

hunter pet isnt better than the sm pet, except the hunter pet can be insta casted. But then again hunters have studded+evade 2

 

[old.SadonTheGrey]

It just means the fecking dumb asshole tanks will have to get some casters or archers in their groups is all.

Amen. Now we need a wizard to convince alb to use wizards again

 

[rynnor]

Originally posted by old.SadonTheGrey
Amen. Now we need a wizard to convince alb to use wizards again

Heh - i thought that was what volcanic pillar was for

 

[old.LandShark]

Originally posted by Old Nicodemus
It just means the fecking dumb asshole tanks will have to get some casters or archers in their groups is all.

Fecking morons.

Yeah right. The pet finally gets to do something useful and the ignorant whiners get all uppity over it. So you can't kill an SM in 2 hits like you did before.. "they are so overpowered" Give me a break.

Get casters to take out casters. The pet can't intercept a spell.

It just means you have to THINK about it is all.

People maybe intelligent but common sense is a rare commodity in the US.

Riiiiiight. So you think spiritmasters should be able to run out solo? Because with the pet as is it makes a crit-strike chain far from a risk-free kill. Sorry, but landing perforate chain on a solo caster should be a definite win. Unfortunately SM pets can intercept successful PAs.

 

[Brevis]

So a lone caster should always die to an assassin then?
Why doesnt solo assassins always die to tanks then? Or in 2vs1 sometimes.
IMO all this endless whining about classes starts to get me pissed off. Every single time some class gets a new ability/change someone somewhere is crying nerf because they have to use new tactics to kill a class.... Just sad.

 

[Damon_D]

Originally posted by old.LandShark
Riiiiiight. So you think spiritmasters should be able to run out solo? Because with the pet as is it makes a crit-strike chain far from a risk-free kill. Sorry, but landing perforate chain on a solo caster should be a definite win. Unfortunately SM pets can intercept successful PAs.

COOL !! A stealther nefr that does not hit the SB..hehe well wont matter becaause come 1.62 there wont be many SB's anyway... so yeah cry me a river..of snot

 

[Roo Stercogburn]

Originally posted by old.LandShark
Sorry, but landing perforate chain on a solo caster should be a definite win.

No, and this has never ever been the case. Before RAs and many of the toys that certain specs of SM have now, the only thing we were good at was killing stealthers dumb enough to pop on us.

Now, it is near impossible for an SM to kill a stealther that pops due to RAs.

Until RAs, Dark SMs were stealther killers - it was the only thing we were good at. Now, it looks like we might *possibly* have a chance to become that again.

The sheer arrogance of stealthers that believe they have an intrinsic right to win if they are going for a caster continues to astound me.

 

[venerable]

Originally posted by Roo Stercogburn
...the only thing we were good at was killing stealthers dumb enough to pop on us....

...Now, it looks like we might *possibly* have a chance to become that again...

...The sheer arrogance of stealthers that believe they have an intrinsic right to win if they are going for a caster continues to astound me...

 

[SilverHood]

someone has to be able to kill stealthers in midgard, now that SB's can't

 

[old.Zeikerd]

I win from stealthers which attack me solo about 70% of the time, if I'm buffed and have MoC and Purge up, it's 100% of the time.