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knighthood

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Wow ud think id stop posting so much here :)

Skaaalllddss , do people still run them a lot in grps these days, what have they got added new, can they still solo grt buffed, are they getting a love patch soon ???

And also, why is it when i see peoples templates for Skalds/Mincers, no-one seems to bother capping charisma(or overcapping) . With my old mincer the diff in dmg from my DDs to a mates with about 30 char less was about 40-45dmg, not counting crits from WP. And i know sklads are different as they have a much better melee than mincers, but tbh instas win a lot of fights, and sometimes u can crit pretty nice with em.

Also, whats the best spec. Id personally like to go for 50bs 43wep for the last DD, altho may be too much of a waste tbh, i think the 50 song is red heal song, cant remember, ill be troll so ill be damned if im gonna parry ever so i wont put points in that.

But 50 sword.. Valks and thanes get some dmg proc off ragnarok now dont they (or next patch) , will it count for skalds? if not i guess ill go hammer, i think i cant go axe i dunno, too lazy to look at char builder lol.

Well, what wouldu all advise :D ?
 

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knighthood said:
Wow ud think id stop posting so much here :)

Skaaalllddss , do people still run them a lot in grps these days, what have they got added new, can they still solo grt buffed, are they getting a love patch soon ???

And also, why is it when i see peoples templates for Skalds/Mincers, no-one seems to bother capping charisma(or overcapping) . With my old mincer the diff in dmg from my DDs to a mates with about 30 char less was about 40-45dmg, not counting crits from WP. And i know sklads are different as they have a much better melee than mincers, but tbh instas win a lot of fights, and sometimes u can crit pretty nice with em.

Also, whats the best spec. Id personally like to go for 50bs 43wep for the last DD, altho may be too much of a waste tbh, i think the 50 song is red heal song, cant remember, ill be troll so ill be damned if im gonna parry ever so i wont put points in that.

But 50 sword.. Valks and thanes get some dmg proc off ragnarok now dont they (or next patch) , will it count for skalds? if not i guess ill go hammer, i think i cant go axe i dunno, too lazy to look at char builder lol.

Well, what wouldu all advise :D ?

Stick with one class for a bit
 

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i demand proof mincer and skald dd's can Crit.

i read a few times that its BS but i'm yet to see anything that proves otherwhise
 

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Bahumat said:
i demand proof mincer and skald dd's can Crit.

i read a few times that its BS but i'm yet to see anything that proves otherwhise

They can crit when you spec Wildpower. You get a 0% base-chance to make em crit, but once you spec Wild Power they can crit.
 

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I don't know if people use skalds in group much. I don't see why they should, unless they really like SoS and speed.
They solo just fine, though they are starting to fall a bit behind with all the love being trown around to many other classes.
Mythic said they would look at music classes in one patch, so who knows.
Not getting my hopes up though. Look at our epic armour and champ weapon. Yaay for power pool, acuity caps, +parry and BS, champ weapon with 2 charges and no proc, etc...

Speed for soloing is great, but when next patch is here, i'd rather solo with a valkyrie. :p

In my new template, i have 52 char, which is 23 lower than what i had before.
My DDs now do 10 less damage each on a target with 26% resist.
Give them CL resists on top of that and it's 8 less. That's with 4% spell damage from GoV.

Only valks and thanes get the new procs.
Imo, 50 BS is a waste. The skald's heal chant is an out of combat chant and ticks very slowly in combat.
Of course you can go axe, if you want to.

My advice is to make a valkyrie. After next patch you should be able to get groups as well as solo better.
No speed sucks though, but charge is great.
 

Bahumat

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Puppet said:
They can crit when you spec Wildpower. You get a 0% base-chance to make em crit, but once you spec Wild Power they can crit.

ahh that makes sense.

you have succesfully landed "switch belief" on Bahumat
 

knighthood

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Bahumat said:
ahh that makes sense.

you have succesfully landed "switch belief" on Bahumat

Hehe , the crits are sometimes almost x2 dmg on mobs, dunno how crits work out rvr though but with high char and wp5 u can squish low hp chars easy :)

As for Valkyries, was tempted to make one before i read them patch notes, and now i dont want too, they gonna be fotm, and tbh i love spd :)

Think ill take the advice on skipping 50bs tho, that lil extra WS will be better
 

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Having played a skald quite alot over the years, my first char. just after game launch infact was a skald.

I would rather get 50 sword or 44+ hammer and 43+ battlesongs.
You will want the weaponskill and you will hit hard as a freighttrain.

Balance your lack of defence with a good template aimed towards frontload and good abs/resists.
Personally i never really used my DD´s much for the damage itself although it does it part in the overall damage. Most of the time its for interupting casters.
 

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I'd either go
46 battle songs, 44 hammer, 17 parry
or 50 sword, 43 battle songs, 2 parry

First one gives you more utility, snare styles, the red damage add, and a bit more defence..

The second one gives you ragnarok.

Both give you red speed for outrunning teh zergs.
 

Golena

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knighthood said:
Hehe , the crits are sometimes almost x2 dmg on mobs, dunno how crits work out rvr though but with high char and wp5 u can squish low hp chars easy :)

They work exactly the same as in PvE except they can only reach 50% of the damage of the original spell/melee swing.

True for everyone except vendo'ed zerkers that can achieve 100% crits in RvR as well as PvE.
 

Phantomby

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Hi,
Im currently making a norse skald, as i wanted a class with some speed that could take a few hits and generally tank stuff. (played a few casters and stealthers before).

So im thinking of hammer spec for a while 47BS, 46Hammer 2 or 5 parry.
RR5 RA's: SOS1, AotG1, MoP3, Aug Str2, WP1, Purge2.

Thinking i should be able to get 49.5 and experience both NF and the last battleground and still be around 46 BS and 45 hammer until 50.

at 50 thinking of respeccing to 50 sword 43 BS spec (same RA's)

However im a bit stuck on temp, skalds have loads to fit in and im not sure if ill be running solo, small group or 8v8. (do skalds get invite to 8v8 or do mids run Rm speed and have him to nuke and debuff?)

To my understanding skalds can deal out reasonable damage but arnt as good as zerkers or savages for dps output and not as defensive as thanes / valks or shield spec'd meleers - so what role does the skald play? interupter? MA assist train?

what would i be best to try and fit in template? was thinking capped str / con (101) and 400 hits as a base...some quickness and cha if i can fit it in.
which resists are most important to a skald? body thrust slash and crush are a given...heat and cold...what others?

Artis, should you definatly have PH, CB, GOLM, SOM? any you can drop? are there any must have items that are good utility? (thinking cinder sleeves or a couple of the epic pieces look good but this cuts down on the amount of SC'able parts to fill in holes in temp.
edit: are there any items with good overcaps and utility that people tend to prefer to put in temp? was having problems finding stuff that overcapped str and con by that much while also trying to get stats or resists on it (items like krojers etc that have overcap but crap stats are pretty usless when trying to get a good rounded temp)

Any advise and help appreciated.

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