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dunderklumpen
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Jikes........ dont make a new char...... it just dissapoints you... btrw is there a patch or anything comming up.. id like to check it out with good ol dunder then......
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Skalds are cool, i got a Uber lvl 6 one on excal lol. But he is really fun(apart from mid excal being kinda gay) and is probally the best char in game....he can hit in melee harder than a paladin ( what doesn't? lol) and his DD spells are nice and so is that mezz!
Not too big a fan of thanes, there spells seem ok but if i wanted someone who could cast like a bastard id go a RM as they ownz!
Not too big a fan of thanes, there spells seem ok but if i wanted someone who could cast like a bastard id go a RM as they ownz!
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Solid is just dissing thanes because we ain't uber. Plus he forgot to spec slam and specced way too much hammer. If you spec like that no wonder he's whining...
39 hammer, 42 shield, 48 SC, 15 parry. Great RvR template. Slam makes a big difference in RvR. Just forget about the AE spell. Pretend it isn't there
Your dmg buff will do excelent damage especially if you have a skald grouped with and running the dmg add song.
Yes, RvR you're not as good as skald, simply because of the speed. But in PvE you are atleast as good as skalds, zerkers or warriors. I'd say it's about same for thanes and skalds in getting groups really. Thanes are better especially until high 40s (better melee, self-dmg add that stacks with skald one) when skalds still have lower melee. Also thanes get 2xLVL spec points which allows to spec 3 lines high vs. skald's 2 lines.
Nothing wrong with skalds either, they are lightning fast and have nice DDs and a short insta-mezz for some crowd control. You're always needed for the speed plus you have good melee and nice instas.
IMO, too many skalds out there. Roll a thane!
PS. Really really forget it about the Hammers of Mezz Breaking when you go RvR!
39 hammer, 42 shield, 48 SC, 15 parry. Great RvR template. Slam makes a big difference in RvR. Just forget about the AE spell. Pretend it isn't there
Your dmg buff will do excelent damage especially if you have a skald grouped with and running the dmg add song.Yes, RvR you're not as good as skald, simply because of the speed. But in PvE you are atleast as good as skalds, zerkers or warriors. I'd say it's about same for thanes and skalds in getting groups really. Thanes are better especially until high 40s (better melee, self-dmg add that stacks with skald one) when skalds still have lower melee. Also thanes get 2xLVL spec points which allows to spec 3 lines high vs. skald's 2 lines.
Nothing wrong with skalds either, they are lightning fast and have nice DDs and a short insta-mezz for some crowd control. You're always needed for the speed plus you have good melee and nice instas.
IMO, too many skalds out there. Roll a thane!
PS. Really really forget it about the Hammers of Mezz Breaking when you go RvR!
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Vaci
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Both class's are fun to play imo, thane is good in pve, up to 40 normally your the puller so its interesting not really as dull as just tanking. Skalds are ok in pve, not great solo imo, well compaired to sheild specced thane but still ok. Rvr wise once again both are fun, thanes good if you got a group and (or) slam, skalds fun grouped or ungrouped and dd's make for nice rp leech
Overall i prefere my skald cause i live longer but i do enjoy my thanes uber damage (yes we do good damage) and keep defence skillz
Like sarnat said tho, get over the 'ooo look at the pretty hammers phase' while in your 20's or healers will have at you for hours on end ;P
Overall i prefere my skald cause i live longer but i do enjoy my thanes uber damage (yes we do good damage
) and keep defence skillz Like sarnat said tho, get over the 'ooo look at the pretty hammers phase' while in your 20's or healers will have at you for hours on end ;P
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swords
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hmm
Well im a Thane
And my m8 Inar is a Skald
We are similar lvl and group together in Varulvhamn atm killing red con lords easy peasy.
As tanks they are very similar depending on what race you are i am a norse thane and he is a dwarf skald so he has slightly more hp than me. I use a 2 handed Hammer all the time and he uses a bloody great big axe so sheilds aren't an issue.
I'll go throguh the good and Bad points for each imo:
Good
Thane: nice ranged bolt instabolt AOE and PBAOE. good offensive class gets to cast and fight equally well. sort of a halfway house between a warrior and a runemaster with the DD.
If you can learn to control those AOE spells and the instabolt you will be fine for groups. (mezzbreakers do not get groups...)
Skald: can hold their own in a scrap. good DD snare mez.
Speed Heal and Battle songs which make SKalds excellent group players. Low DT between fights so they can solo pretty fast.
Bad
Thane: your AOE spells can and will get you into bother and if any mezzer in your group hears the words i can instabolt tey will bitch at you not to use it....
you will never be able to tank as well as a warrior can...
You run out of power faster than a leaking battery and so you need to learnt to ask fro POM's very politely...
Skald: Endurance, you will use End like there is no tommorow shouts chants all use end along with styles means you will have to rest for end alot more than a thane. Mez is on a timer
You have less spec points than a Thane even though you have the same number of things to spec in (weapon parry battlesongs/stormcalling)
Basically if you want an offensive tank class choose Thane, if you want to Play Midgards Swiss army knife and Jack of all trades go for Skald.
And remember a Thane and a Skald together is probably the nastiest combo i have seen and played in.....
Well im a Thane
And my m8 Inar is a Skald
We are similar lvl and group together in Varulvhamn atm killing red con lords easy peasy.
As tanks they are very similar depending on what race you are i am a norse thane and he is a dwarf skald so he has slightly more hp than me. I use a 2 handed Hammer all the time and he uses a bloody great big axe so sheilds aren't an issue.
I'll go throguh the good and Bad points for each imo:
Good
Thane: nice ranged bolt instabolt AOE and PBAOE. good offensive class gets to cast and fight equally well. sort of a halfway house between a warrior and a runemaster with the DD.
If you can learn to control those AOE spells and the instabolt you will be fine for groups. (mezzbreakers do not get groups...)
Skald: can hold their own in a scrap. good DD snare mez.
Speed Heal and Battle songs which make SKalds excellent group players. Low DT between fights so they can solo pretty fast.
Bad
Thane: your AOE spells can and will get you into bother and if any mezzer in your group hears the words i can instabolt tey will bitch at you not to use it....
you will never be able to tank as well as a warrior can...
You run out of power faster than a leaking battery and so you need to learnt to ask fro POM's very politely...
Skald: Endurance, you will use End like there is no tommorow shouts chants all use end along with styles means you will have to rest for end alot more than a thane. Mez is on a timer
You have less spec points than a Thane even though you have the same number of things to spec in (weapon parry battlesongs/stormcalling)
Basically if you want an offensive tank class choose Thane, if you want to Play Midgards Swiss army knife and Jack of all trades go for Skald.
And remember a Thane and a Skald together is probably the nastiest combo i have seen and played in.....
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Sarnat
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Yeah skald and thane work very well together, especially if thane has slam. You will beat basically any combo of enemies in RvR.
A long time ago me and Cordain ran into 4 albs and I managed to take down 2 of them before getting killed alone (when Cordain LDed and 2 albs were killing him). I guess we'd had very good chances against them if Cordain hadn't gone LD.
A long time ago me and Cordain ran into 4 albs and I managed to take down 2 of them before getting killed alone (when Cordain LDed and 2 albs were killing him). I guess we'd had very good chances against them if Cordain hadn't gone LD.
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Solid
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Currently in RvR Thanes are forced to be 90% Melee.
Speccing 39 Hammer imo is bad.
To hit that magic 50 with items (current Patch) and RR you will need:
+3 from Epic Gloves
+8 from Realm, Ranks (RR9, hehe dont count on that any time soon)
Only Exception being if you got a juicy Legion Hammer that gibes +4 Hammer <grins>
Spellcrafting will make Sarnats proposed build VERY viable indeed.
BUT seeing as Thanes are 80-90% melee 20-10% caster, why give dup 5 hammer spec for the last DD?
I would be more inclined to respec to 44 Hammer, 46 Stormcalling, 42 Shield, 5 Parry (44 Hammer style is good, 50 Hammer style is utter crap)
If you wanna go Axe, the 50 Axe style is AMAZING.
50 Axe, 42 Shield, rest Parry enki suggested on irc yesterday.
Seeing as our Stormcalling Line is less that impressive, it may be a viable option.
Still looking forward to more fixes to thanes (first of them were introdiced with 1.53f on Pendragon yesterday)
Speccing 39 Hammer imo is bad.
To hit that magic 50 with items (current Patch) and RR you will need:
+3 from Epic Gloves
+8 from Realm, Ranks (RR9, hehe dont count on that any time soon)
Only Exception being if you got a juicy Legion Hammer that gibes +4 Hammer <grins>
Spellcrafting will make Sarnats proposed build VERY viable indeed.
BUT seeing as Thanes are 80-90% melee 20-10% caster, why give dup 5 hammer spec for the last DD?
I would be more inclined to respec to 44 Hammer, 46 Stormcalling, 42 Shield, 5 Parry (44 Hammer style is good, 50 Hammer style is utter crap)
If you wanna go Axe, the 50 Axe style is AMAZING.
50 Axe, 42 Shield, rest Parry enki suggested on irc yesterday.
Seeing as our Stormcalling Line is less that impressive, it may be a viable option.
Still looking forward to more fixes to thanes (first of them were introdiced with 1.53f on Pendragon yesterday)
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swords
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Im going to respec from Parry to shield in Decenber when respec comes along anyway.
i should be close to 50 by then and it will be a better option.
ATM in PvE i enjoy battering the crap out of them with the 2 hander.
i should be close to 50 by then and it will be a better option.
ATM in PvE i enjoy battering the crap out of them with the 2 hander.