since the normal trade section didn't get me a reply.

Knolan

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what would MP chain 102 AF

*hauberk
*sleeves
*hands
*coif

cost per piece?
 

Chilly

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hauberk - lucky for less than 15p
sleeves - lucky for less than 8
hands - lucky for less than 4 or 5
coif - lucky for less than 10

and thats if you can find a **** willing to make em
 

Knolan

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Chilly said:
hauberk - lucky for less than 15p
sleeves - lucky for less than 8
hands - lucky for less than 4 or 5
coif - lucky for less than 10

and thats if you can find a **** willing to make em
thx for the help m8, i'll try to arse aadia to do it... even if i have to spam hug at here all the time.
 

rampant

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checkout house no 159 i have an mp glove on there....5plat

it took me 120 remakes on chain to get one frikkin mp :(
 

Gribz0r

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Knolan said:
thx for the help m8, i'll try to arse aadia to do it... even if i have to spam hug at here all the time.
Leave her alone, she's mine :(
 

kirennia

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I've got 2 MP chain crowns up at house 150 for 8plat too ;)
 

Knolan

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right this is going somewhere m8es :)

i dont want a crown :( i want a coif
 

mmmpie

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Knolan said:
right this is going somewhere m8es :)

i dont want a crown :( i want a coif

I got a mp Coif in my vault!I bought it ages ago,before the crowns where introdused in daoc,but if u can offer 8 plat for it...then ill go switch it for one of Kirennia´s crowns instead! :)
 

Moggit

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there is a mp hauberk (chain) on house 921 think it was about 8.5p
 

kirennia

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oops, accidentally slipped and put the crowns to 7plat :p No other helms/crowns on the market and the cheapest MP legs on there (cost same to make) were 15plat....lol

What is the world coming to ;)
 

Knolan

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kirennia said:
oops, accidentally slipped and put the crowns to 7plat :p No other helms/crowns on the market and the cheapest MP legs on there (cost same to make) were 15plat....lol

What is the world coming to ;)
right im not paying that kind of money, its plate prices imo (the hauberk is good tho) i wanna bet i can get it cheaper.
 

eggy

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Chilly said:
hauberk - lucky for less than 15p
sleeves - lucky for less than 8
hands - lucky for less than 4 or 5
coif - lucky for less than 10
Cost prices for the average of 50 retries on each piece of armour is as follows:

hauberk: 6p 617g 42s 46c
hands: 1p 350g 25s 38c
sleeves: 2p 655g 89s 28c
coif: 3p 961g 53s 18c

That is average, so anything below that is lucky, anything above it is unlucky, technically. This assumes you have a crafting friend. Slightly out on your estimates Chilly.

Hauberks and gloves are cheap because they aren't use as much any more due to artifacts.
 

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Knolan said:
right im not paying that kind of money, its plate prices imo (the hauberk is good tho) i wanna bet i can get it cheaper.

Chain is more expensive to make than chain
 

kirennia

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Knolan said:
right im not paying that kind of money, its plate prices imo (the hauberk is good tho) i wanna bet i can get it cheaper.
Plate is a lot cheaper then chain to craft :p And helms/legs cost around 5plat200g I think for 50 retries and considering the time involved to make 50 items as well as the fact that there is a severe lack of crafters around AND crafters can no longer sell off their 99% pieces (still got a 99% chain hauberk for 500g on CM which has been there for month+), I don't think 7plat is an unreasonable amount to ask for.

As for the 15plat, well that wasn't me and I completely agree that it's beyond ridiculous. But it does get a lil annoying when people don't realise about chain costing more then plate and helms costing just as much as leggins to make :( Is why I generally don't bother making helms anymore but saw there were none about and quite a few people asking about them so crafted them.

Am I rambling now? Must stop.....
 

Sarcon

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Bought a MP breastplate for 1p once ;) Then i dosen't get any cheaper :p
 

Knolan

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kirennia said:
Plate is a lot cheaper then chain to craft :p And helms/legs cost around 5plat200g I think for 50 retries and considering the time involved to make 50 items as well as the fact that there is a severe lack of crafters around AND crafters can no longer sell off their 99% pieces (still got a 99% chain hauberk for 500g on CM which has been there for month+), I don't think 7plat is an unreasonable amount to ask for.

As for the 15plat, well that wasn't me and I completely agree that it's beyond ridiculous. But it does get a lil annoying when people don't realise about chain costing more then plate and helms costing just as much as leggins to make :( Is why I generally don't bother making helms anymore but saw there were none about and quite a few people asking about them so crafted them.

Am I rambling now? Must stop.....
omg kir,

. , etc took all my breath to read it, wouldn't call it rambling tho, well just a bit then.
 

eggy

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I do MP studded for scouts that ask nicely, but I simply can't be arsed logging on a tailor to make Chain or Plate unless it's for a guildy or friend.

THERES A HINT IN THIS THREAD MYTHIC
 

Knolan

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eggy said:
I do MP studded for scouts that ask nicely, but I simply can't be arsed logging on a tailor to make Chain or Plate unless it's for a guildy or friend.

THERES A HINT IN THIS THREAD MYTHIC
whats the prob with making chain and plate then (im normally not rly busy with crafting things.)
 

Knolan

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since im a noob to SC crafting etc (think i already mentioned that 3 times in this thread now) i will post what needs to be done and maybe, some1 with more expierence can look @ it and tell me if i even need MP's or that i can go with 99%

Hands
Imbue Points: 36.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 58%
Gem 1: 76 Hits - 99 perfect Blood Essence
Gem 2: 11 Energy Resist - 99 faceted Light Shielding
Gem 3: 2 Crush Resist - 99 uncut Fiery Shielding
Gem 4: 7 Matter Resist - 99 imperfect Earthen Shielding
Utility: 59.00

Head
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 60 Hits - 99 precious Blood Essence
Gem 2: 7 Body Resist - 99 imperfect Dusty Shielding
Gem 3: 11 Heat Resist - 99 faceted Heated Shielding
Gem 4: 5 Matter Resist - 99 flawed Earthen Shielding
Utility: 61.00

Arms
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 22 Constitution - 99 precious Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 13 Cold Resist - 99 precious Icy Shielding
Gem 3: 5 Slash Resist - 99 flawed Watery Shielding
Gem 4: 12 Hits - 99 uncut Blood Essence
Utility: 53.67

Chest
Imbue Points: 33.0 of 28 (99 Qual) Overcharge: 30%
Gem 1: 19 Constitution - 99 faceted Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 20 Hits - 99 rough Blood Essence
Gem 3: 11 Cold Resist - 99 faceted Icy Shielding
Gem 4: 5 Body Resist - 99 flawed Dusty Shielding
Utility: 49.67

i dont need advice on my temp that is good for me and it suits me, im only asking..(read above)

[edit: right just saw the hauberk is already 99% so maybe some1 can give a price on that?]
 

Chilly

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eggy said:
Cost prices for the average of 50 retries on each piece of armour is as follows:

hauberk: 6p 617g 42s 46c
hands: 1p 350g 25s 38c
sleeves: 2p 655g 89s 28c
coif: 3p 961g 53s 18c

That is average, so anything below that is lucky, anything above it is unlucky, technically. This assumes you have a crafting friend. Slightly out on your estimates Chilly.

Hauberks and gloves are cheap because they aren't use as much any more due to artifacts.
they were final price estimates not cost price guides. there are VERY few ***** these days crafting, not like the diogel of old where you could pick up hookers..er...MP gear for nearly the average cost price from stock any time of day or night. why bother crafting when you can make 10x the money simply RvRing or farming crappy scrolls - both of which are more fun than crafting.

oh and knolan, chain costs more than plate.
 

eggy

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Knolan said:
since im a noob to SC crafting etc (think i already mentioned that 3 times in this thread now) i will post what needs to be done and maybe, some1 with more expierence can look @ it and tell me if i even need MP's or that i can go with 99%

Hands
Imbue Points: 36.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 58%
Gem 1: 76 Hits - 99 perfect Blood Essence
Gem 2: 11 Energy Resist - 99 faceted Light Shielding
Gem 3: 2 Crush Resist - 99 uncut Fiery Shielding
Gem 4: 7 Matter Resist - 99 imperfect Earthen Shielding
Utility: 59.00

Head
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 60 Hits - 99 precious Blood Essence
Gem 2: 7 Body Resist - 99 imperfect Dusty Shielding
Gem 3: 11 Heat Resist - 99 faceted Heated Shielding
Gem 4: 5 Matter Resist - 99 flawed Earthen Shielding
Utility: 61.00

Arms
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 22 Constitution - 99 precious Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 13 Cold Resist - 99 precious Icy Shielding
Gem 3: 5 Slash Resist - 99 flawed Watery Shielding
Gem 4: 12 Hits - 99 uncut Blood Essence
Utility: 53.67

Chest
Imbue Points: 33.0 of 28 (99 Qual) Overcharge: 30%
Gem 1: 19 Constitution - 99 faceted Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 20 Hits - 99 rough Blood Essence
Gem 3: 11 Cold Resist - 99 faceted Icy Shielding
Gem 4: 5 Body Resist - 99 flawed Dusty Shielding
Utility: 49.67

i dont need advice on my temp that is good for me and it suits me, im only asking..(read above)

[edit: right just saw the hauberk is already 99% so maybe some1 can give a price on that?]
MP for all apart from 99% hauberk on that template. Looks like you could improve the imbue points tho.
 

Knolan

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Chilly said:
they were final price estimates not cost price guides. there are VERY few ***** these days crafting, not like the diogel of old where you could pick up hookers..er...MP gear for nearly the average cost price from stock any time of day or night. why bother crafting when you can make 10x the money simply RvRing or farming crappy scrolls - both of which are more fun than crafting.

oh and knolan, chain costs more than plate.
i noticed :)
 

Knolan

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Str: 0 Int: 0 Hits: 360
Con: 77 Pie: 103 Power: 0
Dex: 130 Cha: 0
Qui: 0 Emp: 0



Resists


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Body: 27 Energy: 26 Crush: 26 (2)
Cold: 26 Matter: 17 Thrust: 29
Heat: 26 Spirit: 28 (5) Slash: 26 (3)



Skills


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3 Smite
3 Enhancement
3 Rejuvenation


Focus


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Cap Increases


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23 Dex
160 Hits
21 Pie


Other Bonuses


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7 Buff Bonus
26 AF Bonus
25 Healing Bonus
8 Casting Speed Bonus
8 Power Percentage Bonus


Piece Listing


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Chest
Imbue Points: 33.0 of 28 (99 Qual) Overcharge: 30%
Gem 1: 19 Constitution - 99 faceted Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 20 Hits - 99 rough Blood Essence
Gem 3: 11 Cold Resist - 99 faceted Icy Shielding
Gem 4: 5 Body Resist - 99 flawed Dusty Shielding
Utility: 49.67

Arms
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 22 Constitution - 99 precious Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 13 Cold Resist - 99 precious Icy Shielding
Gem 3: 5 Slash Resist - 99 flawed Watery Shielding
Gem 4: 12 Hits - 99 uncut Blood Essence
Utility: 53.67

Head
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 60 Hits - 99 precious Blood Essence
Gem 2: 7 Body Resist - 99 imperfect Dusty Shielding
Gem 3: 11 Heat Resist - 99 faceted Heated Shielding
Gem 4: 5 Matter Resist - 99 flawed Earthen Shielding
Utility: 61.00

Legs
Name: Arcanium Legging of the Ascendant
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: 102 Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 19 Dexterity
Effect 2: 3 All Magic Skill Bonus
Effect 3: 19 Acuity
Effect 4: 10 Acuity Cap Increase
Effect 5: 2 Casting Speed Bonus
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 70.33

Hands
Imbue Points: 36.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 58%
Gem 1: 76 Hits - 99 perfect Blood Essence
Gem 2: 11 Energy Resist - 99 faceted Light Shielding
Gem 3: 2 Crush Resist - 99 uncut Fiery Shielding
Gem 4: 7 Matter Resist - 99 imperfect Earthen Shielding
Utility: 59.00

Feet
Name: Boots of the Rebirth
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: 102 Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 18 Constitution
Effect 2: 18 Dexterity
Effect 3: 18 Acuity
Effect 4: 10 Healing Bonus
Effect 5: 2 Casting Speed Bonus
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 36.00

Right Hand
Name: Arcanium Stratus
Level: 51 Quality: 94
DPS: 16.5 Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 24 Acuity
Effect 2: 24 Dexterity
Effect 3: 7 Buff Bonus
Effect 4: 7 Healing Bonus
Effect 5: 2 Casting Speed Bonus
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 32.00

Left Hand
Name: Cyclop's Eye Shield
Level: 51 Quality: 100
DPS: 16.5 Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 5 Heat Resist
Effect 3: 5 Matter Resist
Effect 4: 5 Body Resist
Effect 5: 5 Spirit Resist
Effect 6: 5 Energy Resist
Effect 7: 8 AF Bonus
Effect 8: 32 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 60.00

Neck
Name: Ancient Copper Necklace
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 10 Body Resist
Effect 2: 10 Crush Resist
Effect 3: 10 Spirit Resist
Effect 4: 10 Thrust Resist
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 80.00

Cloak
Name: Wrap of Withstanding
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 7 Crush Resist
Effect 2: 7 Slash Resist
Effect 3: 7 Thrust Resist
Effect 4: 8 Spirit Resist
Effect 5: 8 AF Bonus
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 58.00

Jewel
Name: Egg of Youth
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 12 Acuity
Effect 2: 32 Hits
Effect 3: 5 Crush Resist
Effect 4: 5 Thrust Resist
Effect 5: 5 Slash Resist
Effect 6: 8 Healing Bonus
Effect 7: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 46.00

Belt
Name: Woven Hair of Malamis
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 15 Dexterity
Effect 2: 15 Acuity
Effect 3: 7 Acuity Cap Increase
Effect 4: 8 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 5: 8 Power Percentage Bonus
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 20.00

Right Ring
Name: Krojer's Dexterity Ring
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 21 Dexterity
Effect 2: 2 Cold Resist
Effect 3: 2 Energy Resist
Effect 4: 2 Heat Resist
Effect 5: 6 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: 10 AF Bonus
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 26.00

Left Ring
Name: Immolated Ring
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 15 Dexterity
Effect 2: 8 Energy Resist
Effect 3: 8 Heat Resist
Effect 4: 15 Acuity
Effect 5: 4 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: 4 Acuity Cap Increase
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 52.00

Right Wrist
Name: Ceremonial Bracer
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 18 Dexterity
Effect 2: 40 Hits
Effect 3: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 4: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 5: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 34.00

Left Wrist
Name: Bracer of Heavenly Bodies
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 18 Constitution
Effect 2: 80 Hits
Effect 3: 7 Thrust Resist
Effect 4: 2 Casting Speed Bonus
Effect 5: 48 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 46.00


right this is the full temp. i know it aint perfect, some1 else made it for me and i thought it was quite doable so thats why i took it, i added my own flavor by changing CB with snatcher, since im also not good @ using the SC calc i wouldn't know how to improve the imbue points, but if you say that can make it better maybe you would wanna take a look @ it for me and eventually tell what improvement i can make.

(only do t when u want to or have the time, i would love the help but i aint expecting it.)
 

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