SI server , Plz lets NOT lose it :>

[Shadowen]

Hehe
I think the word "classic" was, what mislead some people to join the servers in the first place.

I think you've understood it fully. I think what people really wanted was a server where buffbots no longer was the *most* important thing in RvR (so that people don't need 2-3 accounts to play), and the Huge time sinks and massive IWins of ToA was gone - leaving the RR ability I-Wins.

In the classic days (pre ToA), SI stuff used to be the best stuff, but you could still perform in RvR without all the SI stuff, this is not true for TOA, you cannot compete if you're not ToA'ed out, with ML's and gear and arties, which blocks casual players from entering the fray - not that I'm in that catagory.

Though I know it will never happen, I'd like to see ML's, Artifacts, and Realm abilites restricted to PvE, and have buffs have no effect when you're PvPing, as this would bring a semblance of balance to that aspect of the game, currently the gains from Realm Ranks, artifacts, and ML's make the game highly unbalanced, and IMO it has never been as unbalanced as it is now..

regards
shadowen.

 

[Belomar]

I'd like to see ML's, Artifacts, and Realm abilites restricted to PvE

The name "realm" abilities sort of implies they are intended for use in RvR, silliest idea ever. And, like I said in my previous reply to you (which you conveniently did not deign to answer), I do not agree that TOA made things more unbalanced.

 

[epoxy]

problem is this offer came 1 year to late now all are done with this endless crap.

 

[Z^^]

When it came out in us i wanted to try it but it doens't sound so good anymore when it emptyed the regular servers and made that server pretty shit "Zerg.com" as someone put it.

If i could login on the servey i woulda voted no I suppose.

Its definatly not a si server tho as they are trying to sell it as the catacomb classes and perticuarly nf is still making it so useless to play in.

 

[Sye]

People want a server where RvR is more balanced,

Goa/Mythic offer a new server without TOA and ranged buffs,

People moan its not classic enough, we want OF back too,

Others say they dont want another server,

conclusion you cannot please everyone.

To the people who say no to a new classic server.

Why do u say no? only reason i can think of is, you are afraid how it will effect the current server(s). So you would rather prevent the other 50% of people enjoying the game how they would like it.

If the classic server wont last (as some seem to know it wont) why do u say no? It wont matter if we have a classic server if it wont be populated for long...but again you know there is a chance it will stay populated and effect the current server.

If the decision was yes at the end of the day and we had a 4th English server, maybe then Exc and Pry could be fully clustered in all area's to compensate for the loss of players.

The way i see it, if they brought in a 4th server more people could play the game in the enviroment they enjoy, and might even bring a number of people back to DAOC.



How many of the people saying no have not got at least 1 character with an arti ?


My SB currently has 6 arti's on him, with plenty high value items too, but i would be willing to start from scratch again just so i can have a fight based on skill and not items.

 

[eggy]

To the people who say no to a new classic server.

Why do u say no? only reason i can think of is, you are afraid how it will effect the current server(s). So you would rather prevent the other 50% of people enjoying the game how they would like it.

Think about this logically.

If 50% of people wanted it, then they'll make one, hence the poll.

I'm unsure of where you got that 50% statistic from; please clarify. Nobody in my guild wants one for example, afaik.

 

[Sye]

Think about this logically.

If 50% of people wanted it, then they'll make one, hence the poll.

I'm unsure of where you got that 50% statistic from; please clarify. Nobody in my guild wants one for example, afaik.

Figure of speech, not specifics

 

[Eva]

Voted no.

Most who wanted their 'classic' server have gone to the us. It would be filled with german and french people in /b and it would empty our english regular servers even more. As long as it has catacombs and NF it's not classic enough for me.

 

[Heta]

Figure of speech, not specifics

its not a figure of speech!

 

[eggy]

Figure of speech, not specifics

So more realistically, you should have said “a proportionally small number of us want a non-TOA server, so the majority of you should sacrifice your busy peak-time RVR for us”?

 

[Sye]

Nice to see how people nitpick at every word someone says. Its not about the statistics its about giving people the choice. I dont expect any sensible responses tbh cause no one on this forum is willing to discuss, instead they want to be right all the time and voice how they think it should be.

it doesnt matter if the split was 20% yes and 80% no, how would creating that 4th server effect the people who said no?

 

[Bob007]

Nice to see how people nitpick at every word someone says. Its not about the statistics its about giving people the choice. I dont expect any sensible responses tbh cause no one on this forum is willing to discuss, instead they want to be right all the time and voice how they think it should be.

it doesnt matter if the split was 20% yes and 80% no, how would creating that 4th server effect the people who said no?

Isn't that choice you refer to in the poll ?


For the record, voted no. Not coz i don't want it, I wouldn't use it, I like ToA, I like the ML abilities, Artis can be a pain but good to group with friends and just exp and have a laugh.

 

[Naffets]

Nice to see how people nitpick at every word someone says. Its not about the statistics its about giving people the choice. I dont expect any sensible responses tbh cause no one on this forum is willing to discuss, instead they want to be right all the time and voice how they think it should be.

it doesnt matter if the split was 20% yes and 80% no, how would creating that 4th server effect the people who said no?

Right then, lets discuss shall we.

GOA have to view this as being something that is worthwhile doing, if 20% of the playerbase want it, but 80% of the player base don't, then the likelyhood of them making an eu classic server is slim to none. That aside, even if they did make one for that 20%, thats still 20% of exc/pry population that will reroll there and go inactive on main servers, and thats a big enough dip in population to make a difference.

The majority of the people who have voted no have done so because:

A) All the hard work in toa is done now, if this poll came a year earlier, whereby the choice you were given is between shitloads of hard work and simply rerolling, then people would probably vote yes.
B) Current server population is low enough as it is without spreading it out even further. Just as someone mentioned earlier, why bother clustering if they're going to make a classic server to spread the population even more?
C) some other reason.

To be honest, if you want to play classic then try it out on US servers, it's not nearly as good as most people would love to think.

edit: Oh and its free to try the classic servers, no cost to you at all. So go knock yourself out.

 

[Regen-]

tbh i dont know why people being so selfish and voting no.

If so many of you dnt want to play it, why not just vote yes for the people that would like to play it. As there are so many voting no then obviously they wont be playing there, so there isnt gonna be a major drop in players. But there are some who do. And you voting no just stops them having the chance to do something they like. How would you like it if one day they did think about releasing a non ToA, NF, Cata server, and a bunch of selfish all vote no coz they dont want a minor drop of players on there primary server.

why u cant just vote yes and do summit for someone else, its not like its going to majorly effect you.



and to the post above, 20% is not a major drop, say there is 2000 active players on axcal, thats only 400 players, and with cluster inc that is nothing at all tbh. And waht about new players who dont have a ToA'd char or a decent guild or /level, on excal and pryd there is hardly any chance to get a group at all nowadays, and a new classic server with no /level gives people a much greater chance to get groups, and then they dont have to spend ages in ToA just so they can compete in the frontiers.

 

[polza]

im selfish because i have a different opinion 2 u

 

[Awarkle]

i voted yes because i want a third english server type i already play on mid and alby and i fancy playing on hibbeh again

and speaking to the guild we wouldnt mind rolling a hibbeh gank squad there so we all voted yeps

(although i wasnt sad enough to vote on my second account)

i think it will be fun

 

[Regen-]

im selfish because i have a different opinion 2 u

No your selfish coz u not giving the people the chance to have something they will enjoy.

If you dnt wonna play.. fine, and as u can see 'most' of the people here who replied also dont wonna play there, thats also fine, but there are people who do! and you are stoping them coz you to stubbern/selfish to give it ago.

why dont you just do someone else a favour and vote yes?

 

[Regen-]

Cause it would lower the population of the current servers. Almost nobody wants this to happen, we want decent RvR on our current servers. The US normal servers were left barren after the classic server launch.

It quite obvisouly wouldnt lower the population that much, from all the 'I vote no coz im a RP hungry whore and cant stand to lose a few players on my server, even though there are anothr 1300 inc soon :<' i kinda get the impression not many people are gonna move there.

 

[noblok]

If so many of you dnt want to play it, why not just vote yes for the people that would like to play it.

Maybe, because the question asked was "Would you play on a classic server?" and not "Would you object to us introducing a classic server?".

I imagine this new server would cost GOA quite a bit of money, so they'll only start one if there are enough players wanting to play it to make some profit out of it. By falsifying this poll we might force GOA to create a sever which causes them financial losses. This would quite obviously have negative effects on their service towards the other servers as well, since they'll have to cut in the budget. They might even decide to abort the project once it's clear that it's not making them enough money, which would result in angry players who rerolled on this server.

 

[Belomar]

Ever considered letting people vote in peace and let democracy run its course?

 

[acei]

Why do u say no? only reason i can think of is, you are afraid how it will effect the current server(s). So you would rather prevent the other 50% of people enjoying the game how they would like it.

If it was 50% this thread would be VERY different, it's more like 5-10%. A very small minority.

It quite obvisouly wouldnt lower the population that much, from all the 'I vote no coz im a RP hungry whore and cant stand to lose a few players on my server, even though there are anothr 1300 inc soon :<' i kinda get the impression not many people are gonna move there.

Then it's a waste of resources for GOA if such a small amount of numbers play it. I'd rather they wait for Mythic to design another ruleset based on something that would be more balanced for RvR than the current classic ruleset.

There's some holes in your post. You say that almost nobody wants this to happen, but also say that the US servers was almost left barren after the launch of the classic server. So tell me if nobody wanted this to happen, why did almost all move to the classic server?

You took my quote out of context, almost no EU players want what happened in the US to happen here on EU servers is what i meant.

Overall I would still say it's a good server for the casual gamer (if you like to play tank, healerclasses, warlock, bainshee and sorceror)

Exactly why it's a bad server . Classic is so unbalanced it's ridiculous, Midgard has a HUUUGE advantage because they're the melee realm and their buffing/diseaseing class is not their primary healer. The server is VERY unbalanced.

 

[Kaun_IA]

voted no!

NF=not classic, so i dont care

 

[Kaun_IA]

why u cant just vote yes and do summit for someone else, its not like its going to majorly effect you.

ofc it will not be a major effect, why was clustering introduced??? becouse most ppl on US went to clasic servers. other servers where drained of ppl.
but im happy thta ppl in EU have understud the stupidity of the so called "classic" servers.

 

[Caracca]

afaik. it was Cluster servers first, Classic later. think you got the wrong order


don't 4get. ppl who stopped playing DAoC are willing to play the game again, just because of the Classic server.( like myself and some other ppl i know) simply because imo TOA fucked the game up. then NF, then also the new RA's kinda did it.