Shouldn't...

[Arakasi01]

... Infiltrators lose the 2.5 spec points now when they're nerfing Left Axe?
Correct me if im wrong but infiltrators got this just for the reason that left axe was more "uber" than dual wield?

 

[the_smurflord]

Reasons for Infiltrators getting more spec points:

Shadowblades get much more hit points.
Shadowblades get to PA with 2 handed weapons for free (OUCH! - see Azal)
Shadowblades get Left Axe, which even though it suffers a 20%nerf in 1.62, is STILL significantly more powerful than Dual Wield or Celtic Dual.

Nightshades get nukes - although they really need some other stuff to bring them up to par with the other 2 classes.

 

[Kerram Darktyde]

hehehe

watch the Infils Sqwirm

and i believe the currently in testing changes are to make CD/DW/LA all the same... so i say Pick up the Infil Nerf bat

 

[living]

its more than a 20% nerf, and left axe requires ALOT more end.

 

[blademistress]

Originally posted by Kerram Darktyde
hehehe


so i say Pick up the Infil Nerf bat

Since Albion are suppose to be the 'Stealth' realm. Hibernia Magic realm and Midgard the strength realm, infils should be if played right, better then the other two stealth classes.. As Berserkers are even after 1.62 way better then a Mercenary or Blademaster.

so.. no nerfing the infils

 

[Addlcove]

no they are not going to lower LA to dw/cd dmg level, that would be nerfing the zerkers they just decreased it to balance them

 

[Blood]

Originally posted by the_smurflord
Reasons for Infiltrators getting more spec points:

Shadowblades get much more hit points.
Shadowblades get to PA with 2 handed weapons for free (OUCH! - see Azal)
Shadowblades get Left Axe, which even though it suffers a 20%nerf in 1.62, is STILL significantly more powerful than Dual Wield or Celtic Dual.

lol i have to comment on your ignorance:
1. thats 50 hits more
2. only critblades use 2h for PA, else its way too slow (OUCH! - azal uses 1h sword + left axe)
3. if it goes live as it is now, then its more than 20%

4. Infiltrators get Dragonfang.

 

[old.Cher]

stop whining, live with it, as a nightshade i get the shortest end of the stick but i don't complain. if i had a 2 hander to p.a with i'd be happy, if i had more hp i'd be happy if i had 2.5 spec per lvl i'd be happy,

but i don't.... and guess what..... i'm happy anyways!

left axe has more then 2x's the amount of growth then cd/dw so even with a 20-40% nerf u still outdamage the other realms similer skills, and albion the stealth realm?? where the hell did you see that wrote down anywhere? apart from the zerg of stealthers at amg in emain telling people

 

[Flimgoblin]

Originally posted by Blood

2. only critblades use 2h for PA, else its way too slow (OUCH! - azal uses 1h sword + left axe)

that's because a shadowzerker can just unstealth and spam LA styles at the moment and do far more damage than the positional, from-stealth, one-shot CS styles.

Does this not tell you how screwed up LA is at the moment?

 

[Kerram Darktyde]

Albion stealth realm ... YOU WHAT!!??

er no Albion is Mythic Love child realm yes...

Mythic Patch only to keep thier Subs up in US so they look at subs figures thier and patch to keep thier subs up.

Mythic would not know Balance if it came up bit them on the ass and jumped on thier heads....

Mythic are out to make money like all corporations....

there have been bugs in game since beta that have not still been fixed (applies to all realms) yet Mythic just add more Candy and tat to keep the huddled masses happy and even add more bugs.


Mythic should have "balanced" <laughs> each type of class on all 3 realms then moved onto next not do a realm at a time...

Mythic should fixs the Bugs before adding more candy and tat..
(though i do like the Roleplay tat/candy) Bugs should be fixed first...

Infils wil not get nerfed as too many Loud mouth vgn whiners play infils and prolly alot of Mythic staff.. hence no serious nerfs only token gestures....

DAoC is a good game but could be sooo much more..

 

[Wend]

First time I ever heard Albion being called the "stealth" realm.

Who makes up these tags anyway??

 

[Flimgoblin]

Originally posted by Wend
Who makes up these tags anyway??

Anyone looking for something, anything, to back up their argument.

Straws, grasping.. etc.

 

[moo_work]

lol @ shades have 'nukes'

yeah since when does a nuke do ~80 damage at level 50 ^^

good swap there!!! OR MABYE NOT

luri shades were good before the 50% evade cap, because of their uberdex and uberqui - now they just pa for ~300 and get slapped for ~300 by doublefrost every 2 sec in return.

 

[greenfingers]

Originally posted by moo_work
lol @ shades have 'nukes'

yeah since when does a nuke do ~80 damage at level 50 ^^

good swap there!!! OR MABYE NOT

luri shades were good before the 50% evade cap, because of their uberdex and uberqui - now they just pa for ~300 and get slapped for ~300 by doublefrost every 2 sec in return.

how much do the 'Nuke' have in output?

 

[Gwendel]

Azal wasnt always a 5 spec though, im sure i remember him paing me for 1050 at dc before respec with a 2-h, always thought he was crtiblade before respec /shrug

 

[Tasans]

Originally posted by Flimgoblin
that's because a shadowzerker can just unstealth and spam LA styles at the moment and do far more damage than the positional, from-stealth, one-shot CS styles.

Does this not tell you how screwed up LA is at the moment?

How many hits exactly you think you can pull off, against another stealther, using a 5.5 spd 2h?

 

[Tobold]

ns get nukes
sb get 2h
inf get 2.5

kthxbye

 

[Cap'n Sissyfoo]

Originally posted by Tasans
How many hits exactly you think you can pull off, against another stealther, using a 5.5 spd 2h?

You PA with the 2H slow weapon and then swap to faster 1H weapons, doofus.

 

[klavrynd]

both albion and hibernia's assasins have access to thrust weapons, making high dexterity classes viable, not too mention the silly overpowered dragonfang and vanish , pa,cd,pa anyone?

stop whining, live with it, as a nightshade i get the shortest end of the stick but i don't complain. if i had a 2 hander to p.a with i'd be happy, if i had more hp i'd be happy if i had 2.5 spec per lvl i'd be happy,

right, you really dont have a clue do you... can you say wild arcana and avoid pain, blend with a twist of viper and we're speaking 200 dmg/tick dots, giving rr5+ ns'es the throne in post 1.62 assasin classes

 

[klavrynd]

Originally posted by Sissyfoo
You PA with the 2H slow weapon and then swap to faster 1H weapons, doofus.

how long do you think it takes to get the second swing in ... doofus?

 

[old.Cher]

damn thought i knew something then, obviously i wouldn't be happy with 2.5 spec points , or a 2 hander for p.a , or more hp.

my bad klav thought i knew what i'd be happy with then, thank god u came and gave me my opinion.

 

[0pin]

Originally posted by klavrynd
right, you really dont have a clue do you... can you say wild arcana and avoid pain, blend with a twist of viper and we're speaking 200 dmg/tick dots, giving rr5+ ns'es the throne in post 1.62 assasin classes

And can you say getting to RR5 first ?
I feel my char is pretty good now that im rr5+ but wouldnt it be better to balance all the classes and then give mid some better ra's ?

I dont really find it fair that I have to get half a million rp's before im able to compete.

 

[Cap'n Sissyfoo]

Originally posted by klavrynd
how long do you think it takes to get the second swing in ... doofus?

Then use a faster weapon. Sheesh. You will have to think of something else to do when your LA gets the crap knocked out of it. Oh yea, you are deleting...

 

[Tobold]

i repeat
ns get nukes
sb get 2h
inf get 2.5

they all have the same specs (CS, envenom, stealth, weapontype1 (blade/slash/sword) weapontype2 (pierce/thrust/axe) and 2weapon wield (LA, CD, DW))

right, so thats fair. (Oh and please please don't moan about dragonfang, if you have a problem with your realms spec styles, change realm.

... Infiltrators lose the 2.5 spec points now when they're nerfing Left Axe?
Correct me if im wrong but infiltrators got this just for the reason that left axe was more "uber" than dual wield?

infiltrators were not given 2.5x because of LA being overpowered, it was because ns and sb had that little extra (2hswords, nukes). Notice NS didn't get 2.5x

 

[Tasans]

Originally posted by Sissyfoo
Then use a faster weapon. Sheesh. You will have to think of something else to do when your LA gets the crap knocked out of it. Oh yea, you are deleting...

Sorry we were given the "use 2h" line as an excuse when LA got nerfed. When asked how many time will i hit against an evading inf with 2h, you say to use the nerfed LA. Now you say think of something else. You dont make much sense.
Need i remind that useing styles other than LA, has a 60% penalty?
Soooo we can use 2h, and get the crap kicked out of us, or use LA and get the crap kicked out of us. My my the choices.

 

[thorungla]

Even before the ridiculous disparity in RA's (lol at Shadow Run vs. Viper/Vanish) Assuming the LA nerf stays as is, SB's will not even compare to Infils and NS's unless high realm rank.

Apart from the fact most will need 2 single line respecs and a realm respec to be able to convert to a critblade (we all gonna have gimped specs for ages till we get 2 !! respec stones)

And we already knew that critblades couldnt take on other assasins, thats why they hardly exist anymore.

 

[Tobold]

Originally posted by Tasans
Sorry we were given the "use 2h" line as an excuse when LA got nerfed. When asked how many time will i hit against an evading inf with 2h, you say to use the nerfed LA. Now you say think of something else. You dont make much sense.
Need i remind that useing styles other than LA, has a 60% penalty?
Soooo we can use 2h, and get the crap kicked out of us, or use LA and get the crap kicked out of us. My my the choices.

for god sake you were not given a 'use 2h' line, THATS THE WHOLE POINT... it comes naturally to you, THATS THE BONUS

and.. "When asked how many time will i hit against an evading inf with 2h"

by speccing sword your skill with two weapons+two-handed weapons is basiclly the same, there is no reason why inf will evade 2h more.

LA is still more powerful than DW/CD.. put up or shut up tbh, sb are at least equal to inf/ns now (although ns need a decent race with decent con)

 

[Tasans]

<sigh>
Just leave it, its clear when someone is glad another class gets nerfed, and just arguing with them its pointless. GL HF hope your next.

 

[decline]

Originally posted by Tobold
(although ns need a decent race with decent con)

Celts will be able to be NS's 1.62.

NERF FUCKING NERF FFS ODFJAOFJ@O#J$O@JRJOSDFJ

 

[Tobold]

Originally posted by Tasans
<sigh>
Just leave it, its clear when someone is glad another class gets nerfed, and just arguing with them its pointless. GL HF hope your next.

you weren't nerfed you were balanced