Shouldnt be that way.

[Belomar]

Originally posted by aucard
I vote no to LA and VGN zerg.

As an aside, it's funny how all of the big RvR guilds in both Midgard and Hibernia lately are becoming accused of zerging (relative term of course, 2+ FGs from a single guild is a zerg, whereas I'd say you would need 4+ random FGs to constitute a zerg) when everyone keep claiming that Albion is the zerging realm. For myself, I think that the random FG zergs from Albion are better than the organized guild zergs from the above-mentioned guilds; a random zerg is likely to vaporize at any moment since it lacks real leadership, whereas a guild zerg sticks together at all times.

 

[Tyka]

Belomar wether you think we're unorganised or not, we always bring competition to the field. Begin with 1 full group and see if there are fair fights, if you get outzerged get together another full group. And if that does not work, do something else, imo 3+ or more full groups is just not fun, and that's the point where we go do some PVE raid or just, something else.

Not sure why you're trying to put other realms guilds down but whatever floates your boat.

 

[Kurik BHM]

buffbot fix idea

just a thought... dunno if its been suggested... but whatever..

buffbots standing in the PK area drop all buffs after 5 min.... allowing to buffup for groups and leave pk buffed..

if b00fer is standing there more then 5 min and got buffs casted... they will drop..

just a lil thought at work


having the buffers outside of the guard agro range.. will allow enemy players to kill the buffbots if they want.... that solution would hopefully en all whine bout ... i got pwnd cause u had buffer

 

[old.Filip]

Nahh ... just remove all buffs from the game ...

much more fun ... and then mystic get the chance to implement loads of new fancy stuff...

like spells who can transform freindly players into looking like nice trees ... or tocan's OR water beatles

OR summon Masta visur spells ... ooooorrrrr AE puke spell... makes your char stop up and puke every 10 sec ..

OOOORRR disquise spell who can make a uber cute avalonian to a smelly troll (drop the dress first though)

OOOOOORRRRR Understand Midgaardian for 5 min spell's

or mute realmmate spell ....

Filip

 

[Ironfoot]

Man .... you guys are never gonna get over this Buffbot thing, it is almost like a version of Freudian penis envy.

Mythic = Company = Business = needs money to keep going = will not go out of its way to Fuck itself over from making more money = Buffbots will not be chaged / nerfed.

If you thgink mythic is gonna do anything you are all deluding yourselves. In the later patch they are actually gonna make it possible to run 2 accounts off the same computer. Why in the hell would they do that then ? Well because they know once they make it easier for people to get 2nd accounts and drive bots more and more people will do it, this in turn effectively doubles the potential ammount of money they can make out of anyone.

If you are one of these people with some crazy high moralistic view of its not fair blah blah blah, I say its mainly because you cant afford / cant be bothered / to get a 2nd computer to run a second account. I say this to you moral bigots, when mythic/goa patch our EU servers to the latest patch and you can run DAoC in windowed mode so you can drive 2 accounts at the same time are you not gonna get a second account and roll a full on aug bot ? If you say no its not fair to use a bot I say POONTANG to you and prepare to be rolled over everytime you go out.

I am sorry but mythic have clearly stated several time that game mechanics / r v r balance assumes that everyone has a certain degree of buffs. By allowing peole to have 2 accounts on 1 box they are just making it a lot easier, whereas before it was about who had enough money to buy / build a 2nd rig and pay for a 2nd connection and account. Now its easier than ever or I should say it will be easier than ever, all you have to pay is what £30 every 6 months for the second account.

So all the bot whiners should probably shut up coz they all know that as soon as they can drive 2 accounts off 1 rig they are signing up for that max aug support dude. Give it a few months for the latest patch to come out and every single realm will be filled with a lv50 toon with a lv x bot attached getting PL all over the place.

I feel sorry for the true newbies who are actually signing up for the 1st time, they are gonna have a real hard time getting groups with all these bots that are gonna be around.

AMEN to that brothers

 

[Glottis_Xanadu]

At the moment SB's should own an inf in a one on one fight.
Due to the bonus gained from the relics.
But yes, you have to be buffed as a solo player. You need to be buffed as a group player also, just you can get away with a bit more.
Regards, Glottis

 

[Belomar]

Originally posted by Tyka
Belomar wether you think we're unorganised or not, we always bring competition to the field.

Did I accuse you of being unorganized? On the contrary, I was lamenting that the organized nature of 2-3 guild groups is just what makes these "zergs" so much more dangerous than the random Emain zergs. Basically, 2-3 guild FGs are much more focused than 4-5 random FGs, which are likely to spread to the winds at any time. This trend is also the main reason I move to another frontier, or go do some PvE.

Not sure why you're trying to put other realms guilds down but whatever floates your boat.

Hmm, if you read carefully, you will notice I was not putting down anyone's guild. I was observing that Hib and Mid RvR guilds are increasingly starting to run together in large groups, whereas I have yet to see an Albion RvR guild have that kind of manpower. For instance, I've never seen 3+ Albion FGs from the same guild, the kind of numbers that Red Guard routinely shakes out, and most Alb guilds are hard-pressed to get more than 1 FG in RvR.

 

[old.Xanthian]

not many hib guild can field 3fg either
mostly only 2fg..

 

[old.Mitsu]

Primetime that is.

 

[censi]

Ironfoot. couldnt be bothered reading all of your post but I got the general gist... your arguement doesnt encorporate the fact that Mythic loose a lot normal customers who quit cuz of getting perma owned by the BuffNub Pack. This buffbot phenomena also gets picked up in game reviews... I have seen several important reviews mention/explain the whole buffbott syndrone in the game and it doesn't read well for people thinking of joining the game.

Mythic have to base all game changes on the ethic of doing whats best for the longevity of the game. Its in their interests to do this, and this makes better sense than catering for a minority of hardcore players who sux so badly they have to use 2 PC's and 2 subscriptions b4 they venture out of their TK.

If Mythic adopted your view no exploits would get fixed on the grounds that they keep the exploiters playing and it costs them unnecessary resource to fix etc. (silly analagy i know by correct in its interpretation)

Its obvious that the correct thing to do is address this issue and address it fast... but alas yes Mythic wont.

And if you use a buffbot you do sux. (except for Tdaer cuz u nice guy)

 

[Divinia]

Gifv range on buffs kthx. If everyone else have to play the game that is it meant, stealthers should have too :>

 

[StormriderX]

Well I guess giving archers volley on low reuse timer + rsp was mythics way of letting people kill buff bots whilst keeping the extra revenue from buff bot accounts o_0

 

[cadiva]

As someone who plays a shaman as her main character (currently lvl 46) it irritates the hell out of me when people automatically assume I must be a buffbot if I'm out with just a guildmate or two.

I'm all for putting a range on buffs because I play my shaman, ie I'm at the keyboard with my character either in a guild group or in a mixed group when it comes to RvR and I don't get separated from them.

Range on buffs would solve this problem once and for all but I, like the majority of people, know it ain't never gonna happen while Mythic get two lots of cash per person for them having their buffbot running round.

Have to say seeing level 40 plus people with a lvl 10 or under shaman stuck to their asses in places like Darkness Falls just makes me laugh.

 

[Sol-]

Re: buffbot fix idea

Originally posted by kurik
just a thought... dunno if its been suggested... but whatever..

buffbots standing in the PK area drop all buffs after 5 min.... allowing to buffup for groups and leave pk buffed..

if b00fer is standing there more then 5 min and got buffs casted... they will drop..

just a lil thought at work


having the buffers outside of the guard agro range.. will allow enemy players to kill the buffbots if they want.... that solution would hopefully en all whine bout ... i got pwnd cause u had buffer

Then hide them out of the way... aint hard

 

[seranu]

First of all I have to say that personally I don't have anything against buffbotted players that much. Who really cares? If I get owned by a buffed infil, I'll just have a laugh, and if I do want revenge gather a party of shades and rangers to kick back. No really biggie here imo, just think of it as you contributed to someone elses enjoyment
Although I do fully understand the argument against buffbots. It makes an unfair advantage, and those who don't take it so light when dying as I do, must be quite annoyed. But c'mon it can't be that bad? Tis not that hard staying out of trouble either if you don't want to meet assasins. Most of the time an assasin will never be able to PA you, and tis most unlikely he has time to 1 shot you with a normal attack, so just take up your cripple poison to do the work, and then run like mad. You can pretty much tell by the force of the first strike wether he's buffed or not.

But these guys are paying double, they played 2 chars to 50 (supposedly), and they want to have an advantage over other assasins basically (assasin buffbots have got nerfed as we can no longer take down tanks as before, so there's a limited use), so why not just try to go around the problem, buy not staying there and fight?
Oh and I don't have a biffbot btw

Remember that behind every death is a happy player

Cheers

 

[powahhdagod]

why you need 2 pcs?

who told you need 2 pcs?
just spot DaoX and a extra account and you are ok...
and if can't afford the extra charge from the second account take it together with a friend of yours and pay the charge half each (5 euro is not that much) and use it both..
after all buffbots can fully buff 2 ppls.....
because buffbots will not nerfed just do it....
if others can you do it...you can do it also.......

ps. as for lag is that big....just you need a 512 ram and a good pc (1,5 GHz or higher) and run daox...and because you are stealther well even if you lag a bit is not that hard =o

 

[seranu]

Hmm wel first off, as said you need quite a nice PC to be running 2 accs with daox. Secondly Daox is an illegal program, which can lead to accounts getting banned.

And third of all, saying lag isn't much of a prob for a stealther I really don't know where you're getting at You saying that stealthers are an easy class to play? I don't know, but I would almost say stealthers are the hardest classes to play, and it's not very easy getting a PA in with lag, and on top of that being able to run away safely without getting caught.

Anyways, cheers

 

[Ironfoot]

You all still don't get it.

DAoX will not be needed after the next patch. Mythic will actually allow you to run 2 accounts off the same PC. If thats not a blatant condoning of the use of buffbots please tell me why the hell you would ever need to run 2 accounts on the same machine

 

[Hestetun]

 

[mastade]

Yes, put range on buffs.. a huge range like from, apk to amg or so...

 

[Trinilim]

Originally posted by Tyka
lol, who are you again ? stop spewing out clueless comments moron.

he's pretty right ya know

 

[old.Mitsu]

yes 1 fg = zerg!!!!!!!

Now go back to amg.

 

[Trubble]

If GOA/Mythic made it so that daoc could run in windowsmode and it was legal to run several clients on same computer, imaging how much more money they could make?

Makes me wonder why they havent made a legal daox thing that people could download/buy.

 

[Trubble]

If GOA/Mythic made it so that daoc could run in windowsmode and it was legal to run several clients on same computer, imaging how much more money they could make?

Makes me wonder why they havent made a legal daox thing that people could download/buy.