Should the BBC stop using the television license?

[Golena]

What about watching TV on your PC ? is your VDU then classed as a television ?

There was lots of it's a computer monitor not a television so I shouldn't need a TV licence to view it ramblings a while back. What the official "once your dragged in front of the judge" stance actually turned out to be i'm not sure.

Given that most new LCD monitors tend to have DVI or HDMI inputs on them then trying to claim it's not a television is probably even harder these days tho.

I wonder how much of the money actually goes on supporting the websites tho, since those are freely available to lots of people in the world not paying a TV licence!

 

[Thadius]

Exactlly, i dont have Sky, but im always on the Sky Sports website checking football scores etc.

I don't actually mind paying for the BBC website, its uptodate and indepth, though I think paying more than 5 quid for it is a bit silly

 

[Helme]

Don't ban BBC!

I like their history specials over here in Sweden

 

[Thadius]

Don't ban BBC!

I like their history specials over here in Sweden

We aint banning it, we (the people!) of Britain have to pay for a TV license(which funds the BBC), even if we do not watch BBC programming.

18 Million Quid for Johnny Ross? No thanks!

 

[Huntingtons]

im all for license here in denmark. dr1 have some good shows and its for the broader audience (i.e. they send alot of different stuff). they have a nice webpage (which im boycutting coz they want us to pay a 'media license' which is to rip everybody off. if you have a phone/ipod/internet etc. etc. you HAVE to pay license full (179 or 189Dkr/month). i dont mind paying for the television license, but that the government willingly gave permission to put it on internet is quite rediculous

 

[Lamp]

Jonny Ross is not worth the 18mill he's being paid. He can't even pronounce his R's pwoperwy

 

[Laddey]

ok no because i'd lose my job!



I'm all for the TV license!


£2.50 a week you tight *****!

 

[Bahumat]

It was in the paper that it costs approx £160 for a TV license. They said it means the BBC get 350-400 million from TV Licenses alone. UK has approx 6 million people, so they used 2.5 million people to get that number which seems about right.

I also read they made 3.6 billion last year, they did not say if this is before or after expenses etc. The whole discussion was to do with giving Channel 4 and ITV some extra money to help them out.

Ch3tan, I don't wanna start a mass discussion, but what I said about BBC using their money to buy x% of football coverage does not seem so far fetched. They probably could afford it?

 

[Corran]

wtf was the point of bumping a 18month old thread just to imply you got a job with the bbc? oO

 

[Laddey]

It was in the paper that it costs approx £160 for a TV license. They said it means the BBC get 350-400 million from TV Licenses alone. UK has approx 6 million people, so they used 2.5 million people to get that number which seems about right.

I also read they made 3.6 billion last year, they did not say if this is before or after expenses etc. The whole discussion was to do with giving Channel 4 and ITV some extra money to help them out.

Ch3tan, I don't wanna start a mass discussion, but what I said about BBC using their money to buy x% of football coverage does not seem so far fetched. They probably could afford it?

£142.50 and it rises every april!

wtf was the point of bumping a 18month old thread just to imply you got a job with the bbc? oO

because people post some good points like above? Which can result into another good discussion? You understand? YOU COPY?!??!!

 

[Nate]

Get another job you money grabbing *****! There's now talk that the BBC will have to share it with the other channels because of the internet I wonder how that went down.

 

[Ch3tan]

It was in the paper that it costs approx £160 for a TV license. They said it means the BBC get 350-400 million from TV Licenses alone. UK has approx 6 million people, so they used 2.5 million people to get that number which seems about right.

I also read they made 3.6 billion last year, they did not say if this is before or after expenses etc. The whole discussion was to do with giving Channel 4 and ITV some extra money to help them out.

Ch3tan, I don't wanna start a mass discussion, but what I said about BBC using their money to buy x% of football coverage does not seem so far fetched. They probably could afford it?

Tell you what, go and check all your facts, tell me what their budget is, then tell me what it would cost to win the rights to premier league games.

 

[georgie]

Its a joke, if I move out I need to buy a license for a tv I only use for my playstation and megadrive :/

That's new, if that's the case.

 

[Laddey]

you don't actually have to buy a tv license if you're usin it for your consoles/dvds - you gotta prove that you're only using it for that though!

 

[georgie]

I would suggest that the burden of proof is probably with them.

 

[Ezteq]

Discuss!

P[ersonally, I would rather just have Sky than pay for a tv channel I watch as its bollocks. Only good things are Dr Who and Heroes(which isnt BBC made)

w00t thadmeister lol omg its blast from the past time!

Yes bbc should get rid of it tbh they no longer have the monolopy on public service broadcasting and tbh I resent having to pay a fee for a channel I hardly ever watch just to own a telly on which I only watch a few TV shows anyway.

In myyyy daaaay....



we didn't have telly, we had a box with an ant in it and we'd all watch that...and we were bloody grateful!!

 

[Ch3tan]

you don't actually have to buy a tv license if you're usin it for your consoles/dvds - you gotta prove that you're only using it for that though!

I would suggest that the burden of proof is probably with them.

I believe you need a tv licence if you own equipment capable of receiving the signal; so anything with a tuner built in.

So if you buy a monitor to use with your consoles, and do not own a tv, video, set top box or tv card for your pc, then you do not need a tv licence. If you own any of those things, even if you are not using them, you need a licence.

 

[georgie]

Wiki isn't the be all and end all, but it'll do here:

Wiki Linky

The BBC have stated that a licence is not needed simply because a television receiver is owned

Also, assuming you're not watching a broadcast live on the interweb then 'puters are exempt too apparently, so go nuts with iPlayer.

 

[Billargh]

BBC had some right crackers back in the day.

Only Fools and Horses(before it got syndicated like an American show)
Bottom
Blackadder
Red Dwarf
Vicar of Dibley
The Young Ones
Are you being Served
Absolutely Fabulous
brittas Empire

See a trend, everything before a certain year, say pre 1995, was almost always classic.

Best shows I have seen recently are

Around the World in Eighty Treasures, Michael Palin's New Europe and Tribe. But they are hardly costing lots to make

Thing is Thad, you're just announcing the classics of their times, I'm sure there was some absolute tripe around pre 1995 also, but it's not remembered. Just like the good shows of today will be remembered, unlike the rest of shite shown lately.

 

[megadave]

no because of the massive amount of quality viewing they have created and continue to create, especially compared to any other television network.


Also i've had a tv for years that's just been plugged into a playstation with no tv liscence and never had any btoher

 

[tris-]

Just like the good shows of today will be remembered,

Apart from My Family, League of Gentleman what else?

Can name a few more from yonder years

Porridge
Open all hours
Some mothers do ave em

 

[Billargh]

It's still just down to opinions currently tris, I'll enjoy stuff you won't and vice versa. I can't tell the future

 

[Ch3tan]

Yeah it's opinions and taste, I only agree with about 60% of what Thadius calls classics for example.

 

[Bahumat]

Tell you what, go and check all your facts, tell me what their budget is, then tell me what it would cost to win the rights to premier league games.

 

[Hawkwind]

The licence fee is not for the BBC alone. It is effectively a tax by the UK government. Yes, it gives a sum of money to the BBC for its operation and programming. It also pays for the distribution network of transmitters and their upkeep.

Personally I still think the BBC makes some of the best programs on TV. Their nature, drama and comedy departments are far superior to most other stations offerings. I really would not want to see it changed. Some advertising revenue to lower the tax may be a good idea. I just don't want to see them every ten minutes like you get in the US.

But then I don't pay for it, I just watch the programs

 

[Ch3tan]

Bahu, apart from your link not working, why are telling me take a chill pill? I'm perfectly calm. If you want to have the discussion, do the groundwork, if not, then meh.

Hawkwind, do not forget iplayer, news service.

 

[Nate]

Christ calm down Ch3t!!

 

[Bahumat]

Bahu, apart from your link not working, why are telling me take a chill pill? I'm perfectly calm. If you want to have the discussion, do the groundwork, if not, then meh.

Hawkwind, do not forget iplayer, news service.

Link worked originally

Your reply was a bit shitty. I posted because of something I read early morning on the train. It was the Metro so it's probably nonesense but they said the BBC made 3.6 billion last year. Unfortunately they do not post all the expenditures of the BBC so I have no idea if that is before their outgoings. And tbh, I really wouldn't know where to look to find that info...if infact it's even out there to view?

All I was saying is it seems like they make alot of money, so financially they could possibly afford it.

 

[Ch3tan]

Sky paid £1.62 billion for the premier league rights.

 

[Bahumat]

Sky paid £1.62 billion for the premier league rights.

jesus christ that's alot. Any idea how much Setanta paid for their coverage? I think either way it's not going to be possible. I would love to say "yeah fuck alll the other sports, just buy the football" but realistically that's unfair and if they bought X% of Y sports then it'd bankrupt them!

p.s. to all you maths freaks, I don't wanna start seeing more equations!