Should i get Prevent Flight or not ? any help much appreciated

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Pandemic

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I am currently saving for Prevent Flight got 12 out of the 14 points for it but should i get this ability ?

Currently its bugged and procs 100% of time with 50% snare instead of 35% proc with 50% snare (or something like that)

stormriderx uses it to great effect, and with a lot of zerkers going next patch there arnt going to be many tanks with this ability (savages cant get it)

my current spec is below
first aid 2
ignore pain
purge
determination 3
augumented dexterity 2
long wind 1
avoidance of magic 2
mastery of blocking 2
mastery of pain 2
mastery of parrying 2

Note that i dont have determination 4, augumented consitution, augumented strength, toughness, avoid pain or the empty mind

so what u thing get pf or get some other stuff first ?

Pandemic
Now rr7 !
 
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ormagaa

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Imo second poster is a bit gimpish.

Actually Pandemic, I think Prevent Flight would be
great fun to try out.
I think you dont have much use for it though in 1fg+ rvr
but for like soloing or with a skald somethine like that u could
get in more snareshots on different targets.

If you rvr more in fg+, i would suggest det4,
toughness 2 and aug con 2 (to be continued with aug con 3 and AP).
 
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bouh

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u have slam style so u dont realy need pf.

pf costs a lot. it's like deter4, purge, aom2 and toughness1.

or better assist a zerker which has it :)
 
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bouh

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Originally posted by ormagaa
If you rvr more in fg+, i would suggest det4,
toughness 2 and aug con 2 (to be continued with aug con 3 and AP).
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AP is rather solo RA or "i dont care what would happen with my grp but i'm gonna survive RA" ;)
 
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ormagaa

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Originally posted by bouh
AP is rather solo RA or "i dont care what would happen with my grp but i'm gonna survive RA" ;)
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dont agree

Yes AP is very good for both solo and fg rvr imo

Makes enemy tanks hit you for a longer period time.
In theory, AP wouldnt be good for fg rvr, but all know as a tank u still get many tanks hitting you.

And then ofcourse only use it when they do that.

With right tactics too i tihnk ap is good for fg fights
 
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nott

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PF is popular on the other side of the pond. Read several posts on the vn-boards where tanks have speced out of IP to get this.

If I was in your shoes I would go for it.

Afaik it's still bugged in v1.62, and if it's gets fixed in the future and you don't like it anymore it's not that hard to get a ra-stone.

I think it would be useful in group rvr also. The times where their caster/healer gets away from your charge is over if you hit them only once :)
 
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sorusi

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i would definatly get it, but also id drop out from the mastery of parry ;)
 
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ormagaa

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Originally posted by sorusi
i would definatly get it, but also id drop out from the mastery of parry ;)
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n0 :>

gets fixed soon anyway :)
 
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bouh

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Originally posted by ormagaa
dont agree

Yes AP is very good for both solo and fg rvr imo

Makes enemy tanks hit you for a longer period time.
In theory, AP wouldnt be good for fg rvr, but all know as a tank u still get many tanks hitting you.
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warr has 2.2K hps + high block + high parry. i dont think that some1 likes to kill him in melee. It takes a while. So warr is a last standing man (unless he's nuked to death) and AP doesnt help in this case.
Better get something useful for ur grp, e.g. high MoB, high deter, high AoM - it realy helps against melee atacks if u r fast enuf to switch guard among members of ur grp.
 
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Carlos Bananos

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every tank has to have PF.. :/

except hib/alb tanks, they should foad.
 
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sorusi

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Originally posted by ormagaa
n0 :>

gets fixed soon anyway :)
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what gets fixed?

parry wont ever be usefull in rvr fyi :p even if you parried alll attack etc :p
 
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drag0n

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but ofc

Ofcourse parry is useful, how the hell can blocking attacks against you NOT be useful.
 
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old.casiraghi

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I have PF and like it a lot, Hardly any casters gets away from me anymore and It's great for helping your healers as well.

But as someone said u have slam, so think i would use them on something different instead - AP sounds like a good thing, is on my wishlist for sure, but doubt I'll play this game long enough to get it :)
 
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zmurf

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If it's ur only lvl 50 char and u need to farm cash etc, mastery of parry and mastery of blocking can be nice imo, but afaik u got like alot of P from ur crafting day's, so imo ditch those useless ra's and get detem 4 and pf and maybe mastery of pain 3
 
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sorusi

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parry is useless in rvr, (when talking about grp fights), because any smart enemy tank will go for the support, and not YOU. therefor you wont get to parry untill support etc is dead in your team..

and if they are stupid enuff to attack you, you dont need the parry, since its most likely that bad players etc end up getting mezzed etc (and healers are free to heal you while u have the tanks on you etc) PARRY is ONLY for pve and duels :p
 
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zmurf

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Originally posted by sorusi
parry is useless in rvr, (when talking about grp fights), because any smart enemy tank will go for the support, and not YOU. therefor you wont get to parry untill support etc is dead in your team..

and if they are stupid enuff to attack you, you dont need the parry, since its most likely that bad players etc end up getting mezzed etc (and healers are free to heal you while u have the tanks on you etc) PARRY is ONLY for pve and duels :p
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Troll imo .. nuff said :/
 
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-mamba-

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maybe not exactly same for a warrior but as a berserker i found prevent flight to be awesome, used to have a lot of passives like dodger 2, parry 2 and such.

respecced a while ago to ip, purge, det 4, pf, mop 3 + just a few other passives at lvl 1 which i could afford like aom, longwind, toughness... and wouldnt change back. sure it hurts pve & 1v1 but who cares about pve and had to give up trying to solo in rvr anyway.
 
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Pandemic

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wow ok cheers all a lot of interesting advice here and as i thought a lot of get det 4 stuff - i will :) figure i will probably get pf anyway just to try it out while its bugged :)

Pandemic
 
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akula

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casiraghi has PF, and when he was talking bout it last, he loved it. definately a bonus for healers under attack, slap with that, and their speed song kicks in quite quick after,

saved my arse couple times :D
 
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ormagaa

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Originally posted by sorusi
what gets fixed?

parry wont ever be usefull in rvr fyi :p even if you parried alll attack etc :p
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well the famous ^^ bug that you parry less when fighting a large number of enemies gets fixed.

but yes i afree some, parry isnt the best defence we got, but still :)
 
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StormriderX

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Originally posted by Pandemic
I am currently saving for Prevent Flight got 12 out of the 14 points for it but should i get this ability ?

Currently its bugged and procs 100% of time with 50% snare instead of 35% proc with 50% snare (or something like that)

stormriderx uses it to great effect, and with a lot of zerkers going next patch there arnt going to be many tanks with this ability (savages cant get it)

my current spec is below
first aid 2
ignore pain
purge
determination 3
augumented dexterity 2
long wind 1
avoidance of magic 2
mastery of blocking 2
mastery of pain 2
mastery of parrying 2

Note that i dont have determination 4, augumented consitution, augumented strength, toughness, avoid pain or the empty mind

so what u thing get pf or get some other stuff first ?

Pandemic
Now rr7 !
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Drop Master of block/parry + long wind

Get det4 and AP asap. AP is a very good RA, when tanks chasing you and beating on you whilst you killing support - you taking less damage makes life easier for your healers t.t. Simply put - AP rocks.

As for PF not to sure about the utility of it for none dual wielders tbh. Helps you line up slam better if you have fast 1h weapon and it procs on the runner though :)
 
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Negura

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First 2 RAs a tank must have: Determ 4, PF.

After getting those you can get whatever you want imo.

Remember that parry only works from front arc, which means you would have to engage a tank face to face.
Now how often are you doing that in group RvR? :)



On the side of the discussion:

" AP is a very good RA, when tanks chasing you and beating on you whilst you killing support ..."

Yeah but you're talking Midgard tanks there :)

We dont really care about Albion fags (even with 3 relics) and not like there's many Hib tanks in a group. ;)
 
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eragrim

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Why would a sword specced Warrior spend 14 points on PF?


As I see it it is an option for axe or hammer specced warriors as Ragnaroks snare effect along with slam should be enough.
 
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Negura

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Ragnarok has attack speed debuff effect.

Conquer on hammer has snare effect, but in this patch isnt working at all and in the next patch snare will break when damage is taken.
And in good groups ppl are always assisting.
 
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zmurf

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Originally posted by eragrim
Why would a sword specced Warrior spend 14 points on PF?


As I see it it is an option for axe or hammer specced warriors as Ragnaroks snare effect along with slam should be enough.
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that about make's no sense, sword don't got a snare backstyle, where hammer does, even though it's first real good in 1.62-1.63 but u need pf especially on sword, and later it will be gimped on hammer user's
 
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