Should downloading music be criminal

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Alkoran

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I know you guys will all come though for me.

I can't say I feel for the victims of music downloading, so they make 3 million a year instead of 4?

..and it's not like every download is a lost sale since none of us can afford all the music we download anyway.

and here's a humerous link for any of you who don't read PA
http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=2003-09-12
 
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Aoami

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Reason is, alot of music i download, i'll just download a random track or two then if i like the band i'll go out and buy the album. It's a very good way of introducing people to new music that they wouldn't go straight ahead and buy if they saw it because they don't trust reviews or something.
 
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katt!

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1: i download an album
2a: if its good, ill buy it sooner or later
2b: if its not good, i wouldnt have bought it anyway.


Thursday-War_All_The_Time-(Retail)-2003-FNT <- buying :eek:
 
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Conchabar

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downloading products, music or software of the internet:

A) is ruining grps

B) is ruining game companys

C) u get the picture

I dunno u know i think getting stuff of the net is ruining companys but then again there way over charged pfft personal oppinion

PS: FR33 S0UR<3 <0D3 F0R T3H W1NZ0R!!
 
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Cap'n Sissyfoo

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I agree in principle. It is a bad thing for the companies. Very bad. I download stuff so I can laugh at their pain.
 
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old.Dillinja

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Originally posted by katt!
1: i download an album
2a: if its good, ill buy it sooner or later
2b: if its not good, i wouldnt have bought it anyway.


Thursday-War_All_The_Time-(Retail)-2003-FNT <- buying :eek:
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Same as me, I hardly ever download music though. Like one track every year maybe...
 
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Coim-

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Weeeeeeell...sure it's wrong. :D But who cares? Free music! :D Sure...soon they'll stop it all...but until then, enjoy! :D Kind of like savages I suppose...
 
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Conchabar

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no they cant stop it

in actual fact the only way they could stop it is by going to every single household with a pc and then rip out there hard drive ;)
 
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katt!

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Originally posted by Conchabar
no they cant stop it

in actual fact the only way they could stop it is by going to every single household with a pc and then rip out there hard drive ;)
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halfway there
 
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BlitheringIdiot

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Id say at least 95% of my music downloaded would never have been bought in the first place, I just got it because it was there. On top of that, Ive bought several albums through finding bands on kazaa.

I really cant see this coming to the UK for a while.

Although if it does, at least every 12 year olds parents will be so broke that they wont be able to pay for their DAoC subs and therefore Excalibur will become a better and mroe happy place. Plus people wont LD all the time because they are downloading in the background...
 
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Conchabar

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ive forgoten but there was an argument that downloading stuff was legit i cant remember though

but u think it wont come to england heh its already started in sweden ;) so my bets about 5 - 4 months :)
 
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Maq-attack

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Yes it should be illeagal!!!

I like to feel naughty! :flame:
 
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**Aligro**

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The family signed up for the Kazaa (search) music-swapping service three months ago, and paid a $29.99 service charge.

yes.....music
 
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old.ST200

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Tsssk no way I would have ever purchased the mp3's I have >.<

Yes it should be illegal, it's theft. Won't stop me from doing it though.
 
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Whoodoo_RD

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If the record companies and artists didnt demand so much dosh for the shat they turn out then id say yes, but seeing assholes like J-lo spend more cash on botty wipes than i earn in a lifetime makes me wanna puke.

Just look at the artists who all got together to rave about music piracy; like Emimen, Madonna, Elton John and j-lo who are all so frikken filthy stinking rich why should they give a rats arse? Hypocrits!

When CDs were launched, they cost around £15 a pop, back then I paid £10 for a single CDR, so I could see the comarision. Now i pay £0.26p for a blank disk, yet CDs have only dropped to half the price, justify that?!?

Smaller bands I have symapthy with, but at the same time the record companies are still raking in massive profits. Pah.

As for software, ill pay for it if I feel i get value for money (hence no MS product), like DiskKeeper,Zone alarm, McAfee, Norton, MMJB, Paintshop Pro (JASC) and DAoC. Although I did buy win 98SE :p

If its value for money or a solid decent peice of kit i dont mind forking out for it. This goes for Albums too (all my Linkin Park are proper :great: )
 
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Rubric

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People would download music even if it was £1 for an album.

Granted no everyone but alot of people still would.
 
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Repent Reloaded

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Should downloading music be criminal
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no but I think downloading child porn should be.

whats that ? .... it is ? .... shit!
 
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thorwyntf

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Should downloading music be criminal
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It *should* not be, it *is*.

Sad thing is, that people are still trying to hide behind their pseudo arguments of "too expensive" "poor quality" or "never would have bought it in the first place". They´re doing that to sedate their own concience, so they don´t have to think about the fact that they´re actually doing something illegal. Therefor, they´re trying to bend and twist the facts into something semi-legal.
Another thing is, that a good number of people aren´t even aware of what they´re doing. They know how to switch on their PC and where to start Kazaa and that´s about it. Sounds scary, but there are LOTS of those people.
Downloading music and software indeed kills companies. I`m a gamedesigner and I know the situation on the market these days and how hard it is to stay alive. Not because the products are bad, not because the prices are so ridiculously high, but because every man and his dog is merrly burning CD`s like there was no tomorrow.
 
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adari

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Originally posted by Repent Reloaded
no but I think downloading child porn should be.

whats that ? .... it is ? .... shit!
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sad ass moron
 
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leoric

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I think its fine! Where would my supply of pr0n come from if they stopped all the d/ls :(
 
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Ekydus

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Originally posted by Repent Reloaded
fuck off little skooli child.
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Don't mess with Repent. He's old enough to go down to the off license and buy himself and his special lady a can of White Lightening.
 
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Alkoran

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Originally posted by thorwyntf
It *should* not be, it *is*.

Sad thing is, that people are still trying to hide behind their pseudo arguments of "too expensive" "poor quality" or "never would have bought it in the first place". They´re doing that to sedate their own concience, so they don´t have to think about the fact that they´re actually doing something illegal. Therefor, they´re trying to bend and twist the facts into something semi-legal.
Another thing is, that a good number of people aren´t even aware of what they´re doing. They know how to switch on their PC and where to start Kazaa and that´s about it. Sounds scary, but there are LOTS of those people.
Downloading music and software indeed kills companies. I`m a gamedesigner and I know the situation on the market these days and how hard it is to stay alive. Not because the products are bad, not because the prices are so ridiculously high, but because every man and his dog is merrly burning CD`s like there was no tomorrow.
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I think you may have missed an important point.
The prices people pay for this stuff is high, because record companies will charge as much as people will pay.

The price argument is not some sort of delusional cover it is very real. People spend a hell of a lot of cash on music, not least because of the celebrity culture in which people are encouraged to worship increadibly rich people and to belive they deserve all the money they get.

People still spend more money than they have. It's like they say "you can't get blood out of a stone" You can't sell music to someone who's out of overdraft.

There's so much stuff available that if you're not someones favourite, noone will have any money left by the time they get round to you.
 
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