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http://forums.barrysworld.com/showthread.php?threadid=20587&highlight=squirting
Scroll down to my first post - I personally think a reform like this would work
http://forums.barrysworld.com/showthread.php?threadid=20587&highlight=squirting
Scroll down to my first post - I personally think a reform like this would work
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Embattle
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Aha jumping the gun again...I never said it was suited to this country but I believe that it could be adapted.
I also don't agree with permanent sterilisation.
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Embattle
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Agreed.
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bids
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The Final Solution eh
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bah wish i watched that, i live in stockport
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old.Jas
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I'm down the road near Warrington - not much better this way
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All these plans are an extremely good idea and everything... but you fail to realise we have a LABOUR government right now and the people on such a government are usually the lowerpaid, dishonest cunts that we are trying to eliminate who have just decided to represent their fellow scummers in the most underhand, richpeoplehating way possible. (cept for tony blair his wife is a barrister and makes thousands anyway, true labour roots comming through there)
What people like the government do not seem to realise is there is always going to be brighter people in the world who have higher paid jobs, and there will be those individuals who through lack of intelligence or motivation fucked up their chance of getting somewhere, and are stuck with what they have. Dont get me wrong, I'm fully aware of the need for people like that, I personally could not standing doing boring factory work for more than 10 minutes without exploding.
I personally do not see why when it is so obvious people are not equals, the richer, sometimes harder working and brighter people (used loosely) should be expected to shell out for the couples quite happy to churn out kids for benefits that turn into criminals.
This is another debate surfacing here... but if there was a death pentalty deterrant we could wipe out half the lower criminal scum classes and not have to pay for them in prison.
Queue the debate about "taking another human life no matter what the person has done is wrong". Well im sorry but we live in a society... and in my book, if you kill someone else you have violated and lost every right you ever had, and should be put to death for your actions. Having the people sit in prison getting warmth, meals, colour tv, and an early let out for GOOD BEHAVIOUR is too much for me to think about.
Maybe people would think twice about murdering etc if they knew they would get killed for it. Then again if they didnt think twice it wouldnt matter, they would be dead wouldnt they.
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What people like the government do not seem to realise is there is always going to be brighter people in the world who have higher paid jobs, and there will be those individuals who through lack of intelligence or motivation fucked up their chance of getting somewhere, and are stuck with what they have. Dont get me wrong, I'm fully aware of the need for people like that, I personally could not standing doing boring factory work for more than 10 minutes without exploding.
I personally do not see why when it is so obvious people are not equals, the richer, sometimes harder working and brighter people (used loosely) should be expected to shell out for the couples quite happy to churn out kids for benefits that turn into criminals.
This is another debate surfacing here... but if there was a death pentalty deterrant we could wipe out half the lower criminal scum classes and not have to pay for them in prison.
Queue the debate about "taking another human life no matter what the person has done is wrong". Well im sorry but we live in a society... and in my book, if you kill someone else you have violated and lost every right you ever had, and should be put to death for your actions. Having the people sit in prison getting warmth, meals, colour tv, and an early let out for GOOD BEHAVIOUR is too much for me to think about.
Maybe people would think twice about murdering etc if they knew they would get killed for it. Then again if they didnt think twice it wouldnt matter, they would be dead wouldnt they.
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Daffeh
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some good points there Dime
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Sar
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The social underclass as a root cause is totally naive - social underclasses are the result, not the cause. That's like studying an egg being placed in water and watching the water boil and stating that the placement of the egg in the water is what causes the water to boil.
Aggression is a basic instinct which is within all humans from birth. Releasing of this aggression in certain ways determines how people are perceived, be it as criminals or top sportsmen/women.
Well educated people are more successful in life generally, and as such aren't given to as much agression caused by feeling of frustration (being put down by the man etc) and so tend to release what aggression they have in more socially acceptable ways, sports, competition at work etc.
Uneducated people don't have as many "safe" avenues for aggression release as their more educated "peers" with their numerous avenues of release, and as I said earlier suffer from more aggression as well, which causes them to release it in very few ways - frequent crime being one of them.
Do intelligence tests of most petty criminals - I'll bet it's below the national average.
Aggression is a basic instinct which is within all humans from birth. Releasing of this aggression in certain ways determines how people are perceived, be it as criminals or top sportsmen/women.
Well educated people are more successful in life generally, and as such aren't given to as much agression caused by feeling of frustration (being put down by the man etc) and so tend to release what aggression they have in more socially acceptable ways, sports, competition at work etc.
Uneducated people don't have as many "safe" avenues for aggression release as their more educated "peers" with their numerous avenues of release, and as I said earlier suffer from more aggression as well, which causes them to release it in very few ways - frequent crime being one of them.
Do intelligence tests of most petty criminals - I'll bet it's below the national average.
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old.Jas
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I'm not sure its that simple... education doesn't necessarily convert to intelligence.
Education could, however, show criminals the big picture - eg why it isn't a good idea to nick cars. But as someone (Perplex?) pointed out eariler its these type of people that rebel against education
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Education nurtures intelligence, and allows people to flex their brain muscles.
People without an education won't have had the necessary nurturing and therefore won't be able to "flex their muscles" at all.
People without an education won't have had the necessary nurturing and therefore won't be able to "flex their muscles" at all.
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old.Jas
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Good point
Maybe more intelligent people without an education are the worst? More frustration = more aggression released
However if they are that intelligent then surely they can get out of the rut they are born into.
Maybe more intelligent people without an education are the worst? More frustration = more aggression released
However if they are that intelligent then surely they can get out of the rut they are born into.
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The rant is about people who abscond from work or social contribution and live off the expenses of others, the current government is hardly on their side, and besides the "workers" championed by the original tenets of the Labour Party are people who have to work for a living to maintain their income, not people who sit on their backsides and earn off inheritance, it has nothing to do with how much you "earn", as long as you are "earning" it.
Good point, I actually appreciate those who clean the shit off the streets, who provide petrol for my car and stack the shelves I buy food from.
People are equal in many ways. You are fortunate to live in a civilized society were brains are dominate, and not one where whoever has the biggest stick rules. Unfortunately this kind of liberal society gives us a social welfare system that is open to abuse.
This is all very well as long as you could be sure you've got the right man. What about borderline cases where killing is done in self-defence, or done to preserve other lives ? The whole aspect of a death penalty is such a maze its far better to lock people up for life.
Why not let people out if they can prove they wont do it again ? In fact recidivism is rare amongst murderers, proof that the current system does have an effect.