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[Mrmuscle]

it's updated just for you Framfall

PS. do people really believe that posting "omg XXX is a cheating coxxor" on here is actually going to do anything? I'd like to know what sort of response/reaction you expect. Keep the names out of it etc. blah blah you know the drill.

i dunno maybe get others to react/open their eyes if they come accross "the cheater" and report him.
Many might have seen the cheater using his cheat but not bothered to report it due to the fact they think its pointless and goa will not look into it, if they see more ppl have seen him/her cheating they might report it seeing as they are not alone in the observation and that goa might do something about it.

in this matter reports have been sent to goa with evidence.

 

[Flimgoblin]

i dunno maybe get others to react/open their eyes if they come accross "the cheater" and report him.
Many might have seen the cheater using his cheat but not bothered to report it due to the fact they think its pointless and goa will not look into it, if they see more ppl have seen him/her cheating they might report it seeing as they are not alone in the observation and that goa might do something about it.

in this matter reports have been sent to goa with evidence.

more likely people will think "bah someone else will have reported him and nothing's being done" - can't remember the name for it but it's been observed in psychological tests that if, say, someone needs help and there's only you there you're far more likely to do something about it than if there's 10 or 20 people around - e.g. someone hurt in the middle of the street.

good good more cheaters caught the better (roll on 1.70)

 

[Aloca]

You posted My guild name in the topic of that thread, If you dont have very solid evidence (you didnt) it create a memory of us cheating. I wouldnt had a problem if you posted any proof. I talked to the accused and he think it might be becouse of his bad isp along with the big laggs these days on excal.
Due Opentransit you get 10-20 sec lag now and then, you might have seen him walk one way but when you get connection with the server again he might have moved somewhere else and there for generating a teleporting feeling.

There isnt any known teleport cheat either. It is a speed hack available but you would still see him move "normaly" then, just very fast. Speed cheaterz is the most easy detected cheat also. It can be confirmed by goa in 1sec by just checking his movement.

 

[Coccas]

i think the mods are doing a great job!

 

[Mrmuscle]

You posted My guild name in the topic of that thread, If you dont have very solid evidence (you didnt) it create a memory of us cheating. I wouldnt had a problem if you posted any proof. I talked to the accused and he think it might be becouse of his bad isp along with the big laggs these days on excal.
Due Opentransit you get 10-20 sec lag now and then, you might have seen him walk one way but when you get connection with the server again he might have moved somewhere else and there for generating a teleporting feeling.

There isnt any known teleport cheat either. It is a speed hack available but you would still see him move "normaly" then, just very fast. Speed cheaterz is the most easy detected cheat also. It can be confirmed by goa in 1sec by just checking his movement.

haha i do love that explanation made me laugh i also wish i could have that lag when it suits me or when i need it. however as u said its easy detectable by goa so they should have no problem getting to this guy.

 

[Divinia]

3) read the following quote
4) comprehend

It's far from clear in the "no accusation post" if you ask me with a tad more brain than you that don't fucking know how to use a spacebar.

Sure I could use common sense, but nope, I read the CoC and the rules and I try to stay within them, changing the rules as you go is fine with me but don't say I didnt follow the "rules" as there were none about Ben Jonsson's in them.



Wetawd.

Atleast I can spell Retard, Retard.

 

[Crimson LoneWolf]

One day FH will sound like the english/american censored version of Fuck It (I Don't Want You Back).

Now if that doesnt make you laugh, then it will make me cry.

 

[Elewyth(TLSOA)]

You posted My guild name in the topic of that thread, If you dont have very solid evidence (you didnt) it create a memory of us cheating. I wouldnt had a problem if you posted any proof. I talked to the accused and he think it might be becouse of his bad isp along with the big laggs these days on excal.
Due Opentransit you get 10-20 sec lag now and then, you might have seen him walk one way but when you get connection with the server again he might have moved somewhere else and there for generating a teleporting feeling.

There isnt any known teleport cheat either. It is a speed hack available but you would still see him move "normaly" then, just very fast. Speed cheaterz is the most easy detected cheat also. It can be confirmed by goa in 1sec by just checking his movement.

haha he speed lags in stealth mode? and you believed him? your a bigger muppet than i gav you credit for then.

 

[Iorlas]

Vf and flim ya both tossers.. flim your a crap mod and crap player...take this shit forum and poke it up your ass in fact 90% of people who post here are compleate and utter wankers don't bother to ban me as i won't be comming hear to read all the bollox that is written here........fucking morons.. /RUDE.

 

[AngelHeal]

As much as i agree with you guy's, it are their rules.

Its their forum, their rules, they havent asked you to come here, if you don't like it.. leave..

 

[Tay]

You should especially read your own steps 3 and 4.

It was not an radar accusation.
As i started the thread, I didnt accuse anyone of anything, but it sure was fun seeing Aloca blow his top about it.

And I always wondered why some people get away with saying fuck and other abusive cool words repetedly to other people, whilst if some say..."genetalia" they get banned?

As in the game and on Irc there is always going to be patting on the back and kissing ass on FH.

I find it really funny that VF get's all Butchy...or should i say Bitchy?

Depends if it was baseless allegations really.

Secondly, leave Jenny Talia out of this, she rocks..!

 

[Aloca]

I agree that the modding is bad from time to time.I also think that you should be able to accuse people of cheating on this forum, But with some evidence.

I can make a post about you using radar, then maybe get some friends to back me up. Would you like it?
I dont think so.

Now if the thread starter had any proof at all except empty words it would been a complete diffrent story. I would have taken actions directly. Now it is just one more of the bla bla cheats bla bla just becouse you lost or didnt get the rps.
Also i would appreciate if you would have contacted one of the GM's of the guild before accusing the entire guild of cheating just bcouse you have some suspicions about 1 member. If you would have contacted me for example i would have investigated it and checked the "proof" that you claimed you send to Goa. If it is solid i would probably remove the accused from guild, then let you accuse him as a alone person. Atleast it wouldnt affect the guilds reputation.

 

[Framfall]

You posted My guild name in the topic of that thread, If you dont have very solid evidence (you didnt) it create a memory of us cheating. I wouldnt had a problem if you posted any proof. I talked to the accused and he think it might be becouse of his bad isp along with the big laggs these days on excal.
Due Opentransit you get 10-20 sec lag now and then, you might have seen him walk one way but when you get connection with the server again he might have moved somewhere else and there for generating a teleporting feeling.

There isnt any known teleport cheat either. It is a speed hack available but you would still see him move "normaly" then, just very fast. Speed cheaterz is the most easy detected cheat also. It can be confirmed by goa in 1sec by just checking his movement.

Ben Jonsson's lawer had a better case than you.

 

[Aloca]

Ben Jonsson's lawer had a better case than you.

And what is my case? Im merely saying that your way of presenting this accusation is wrong. Im not defending or accusing anyone.

 

[Brilliance]

Raven, respect

You were my sun
You were my earth
But you didn't know all the ways I loved you, no
So you took a chance
And made other plans
But I bet you didn't think your thing would come crashing down, no

You don't have to say, what you did,
I already know, I found out from him
Now there's just no chance, for you and me, there'll never be
And don't it make you sad about it

You told me you loved me
Why did you leave me, all alone
Now you tell me you need me
When you call me, on the phone
Girl I refuse, you must have me confused
With some other guy
Your bridges were burned, and now it's your turn
To cry, cry me a river
Cry me a river-er
Cry me a river
Cry me a river-er, yea yea

I know that they say
That somethings are better left unsaid
It wasn't like you only talked to him and you know it
(Don't act like you don't know it)
All of these things people told me
Keep messing with my head
(Messing with my head)
You should've picked honesty
Then you may not have blown it
(Yea..)

You don't have to say, what you did,
(Don't have to say, what you did)
I already know, I found out from him
(I already know, uh)
Now there's just no chance, for you and me, there'll never be
(No chance, you and me)
And don't it make you sad about it

You told me you loved me
Why did you leave me, all alone
(All alone)
Now you tell me you need me
When you call me, on the phone
(When you call me on the phone)
Girl I refuse, you must have me confused
With some other guy
(I'm not like them baby)
Your bridges were burned, and now it's your turn
(It's your turn)
To cry, cry me a river
(Go on and just)
Cry me a river-er
(Go on and just)
Cry me a river
(Baby go on and just)
Cry me a river-er, yea yea

Oh
(Oh)
The damage is done
So I guess I be leaving
Oh
(Oh)
The damage is done
So I guess I be leaving
Oh
(Oh)
The damage is done
So I guess I be leaving
Oh
(Oh)
The damage is done
So I guess I be... leaving

You don't have to say, what you did,
(Don't have to say, what you did)
I already know, I found out from him
(I already know, uh)
Now there's just no chance, for you and me, there'll never be
(No chance, you and me)
And don't it make you sad about it

Cry me a river
(Go on and just)
Cry me a river-er
(Baby go on and just)
Cry me a river
(You can go on and just)
Cry me a river-er, yea yea

Cry me a river
(Baby go on and just)
Cry me a river-er
(Go on and just)
Cry me a river
(Cause I've already cried)
Cry me a river-er, yea yea
(Ain't gonna cry no more, yea-yea)

Cry me a river
Cry me a river, oh
Cry me a river, oh
Cry me a river, oh

Cry me a river, oh
(Cry me, cry me)
Cry me a river, oh
(Cry me, cry me)
Cry me a river, oh
(Cry me, cry me)
Cry me a river, oh
(Cry me, cry me)

Cry me a river, oh
(Cry me, cry me)
Cry me a river, oh
(Cry me, cry me)
Cry me a river
(Cry me, cry me)

 

[Ziva]

For all cheating issues GOA invented a tool called RightNow, how hard is it to understand you use that instead of throwing it here using name and shame?

They have logfiles, they can investigate and they can take measures to prevent it from happening again. All we are left with is whine, people going nuts and bad mouthing eachother and people accusing other people while sometimes even false.

How would u feel if you didn't cheat but someone came in here, accused you of cheating and maybe even faked some logfiles. How can you prove your innocence, how can people who don't even read FH proof their innocence? Easy... in both cases you can't. The only one who can know what happened is GOA. We on FH can't judge most situations cause we have no proof.

And as been said, you can call me a penis, you can accuse Flim of misusing his "modpowers" to close a thread but it won't change a thing. We prefer not to see naming and shaming cause we think it belongs with GOA and you just have to deal with that.

 

[Flimgoblin]

Vf and flim ya both tossers.. flim your a crap mod and crap player...take this shit forum and poke it up your ass in fact 90% of people who post here are compleate and utter wankers don't bother to ban me as i won't be comming hear to read all the bollox that is written here........fucking morons.. /RUDE.

such bile from someone who obviously likes my posting so much as to quote it in his sig

but you're perfectly entitled to have your opinions on my modding, I'll take your feedback and file it appropriately...

this particular instance is filed under "s" of course

 

[Herbal]

Oh my god, Becky, look at her butt
It is so big
She looks like one of those rap guys girlfriends
Who understands those rap guys
They only talk to her because she looks like a total prostitute, ok?
I mean her butt
It's just so big
I can't believe it's so round
It's just out there
I mean, it's gross
Look, she's just so black

I like big butts and I can not lie
You other brothers can't deny
That when a girl walks in with an itty bitty waste
And a round thing in your face
You get sprung
Wanna pull up front
Cuz you notice that butt was stuffed
Deep in the jeans she's wearing
I'm hooked and I can't stop staring
Oh, baby I wanna get with ya
And take your picture
My homeboys tried to warn me
But with that butt you got
Me so horny
Ooh, rub all of that smooth skin
You say you wanna get in my Benz
Well use me, use me cuz you ain't that average groupy

I've seen them dancin'
The hell with romancin'
She sweat, wet, got it goin' like a turbo 'Vette

I'm tired of magazines
saying flat butt's the only thing
Take the average black man and ask him that
She gotta pack much back, so

Fellas (yeah), fellas (yeah)
Has your girlfriend got the butt (hell yeah)
Well shake it, shake it, shake it, shake it, shake that healthy butt
Baby got back

 

[AngelHeal]

herbal, dont try to be as funny as raven guard.. :x it not original anymore

and why arent u getting my relics back :'(

 

[Olorin]

Why are you two acting like retarded *****?

what differ a radar accusation from any other cheating tool used, it is kinda clear that the "no radar accusations" rule applies for any kind of cheating, if you dont understand that you are asking for personal policing. Dont act like such retarded ****'s.. or maybe you cant stop because you are?

The difference between the two is that with Radar u obviously cannot seee from just watching the radar user running past as u cannot see the effects of it but when someone is running from DL to emain in 30 seconds you can see that quite clearly, hence being able, maybe, to say "woot i think someone cheating".
I think you will find you are the retard as u obviously cannot read english properly, please show me were in coc of this forum it makes it clear that rule applies for any kind of cheating. If that was the case then how come we had like 10 pages of the aphios affair on here? Or wasnt that called cheating in yer books or maybe you agreed with his actions maybe?

 

[Thorwyn]

The thing is: there are odd things happening in this game. Some are the result of a cheat, some are the result of a bug, some are the result of a bad preception (aka. "how the hell did he do that ffs??!"). Whatever it is, this isn´t the place to discuss this kind of things. Why? Simply because even if something went obviously wrong, the person in question could still be innocent. How many times did you read a thread on FH saying "OMG OMG OMG MY ACCOUNT WAS HACKED, F00K GOA, YOU LOSERS!"... and how many times did it turn out to be just another case of account details given away to a friend?
Blacklists on a board like this are a deadly thing. Just most people don´t realise this until they´ve experienced their own name being draggend through the dirt because some random muppet got pwned and decided that this couldn´t have happened without a cheat. "Clear evidence, screenshots etc. etc. to follow... I just need to upload them... later... sometimes. Well.. ok, I forgot to take any. But it was a cheat... I´m an experienced player, I recognize a cheat when I see one. Trust me."... you know the drill.
That´s the point. Name and shame is fine and everything, but there´s NO guarantee whatsoever that the accusition is true and the person is guilty, unless the case has been investigated by GoA. If we tolerate name and shame without a prove, this board would soon be flooded left right and middle by wild, baseless accusitions, counter-accusitions and counter-counter-accusitions.
We all want a cheatfree game. But on the other hand, I don´t want to be accused of cheating and see my reputation being damaged without a reason. And I think the same is true for the rest of the playerbasae who´re playing fair.

 

[Ziva]

The thing is: there are odd things happening in this game. Some are the result of a cheat, some are the result of a bug, some are the result of a bad preception (aka. "how the hell did he do that ffs??!"). Whatever it is, this isn´t the place to discuss this kind of things. Why? Simply because even if something went obviously wrong, the person in question could still be innocent. How many times did you read a thread on FH saying "OMG OMG OMG MY ACCOUNT WAS HACKED, F00K GOA, YOU LOSERS!"... and how many times did it turn out to be just another case of account details given away to a friend?
Blacklists on a board like this are a deadly thing. Just most people don´t realise this until they´ve experienced their own name being draggend through the dirt because some random muppet got pwned and decided that this couldn´t have happened without a cheat. "Clear evidence, screenshots etc. etc. to follow... I just need to upload them... later... sometimes. Well.. ok, I forgot to take any. But it was a cheat... I´m an experienced player, I recognize a cheat when I see one. Trust me."... you know the drill.
That´s the point. Name and shame is fine and everything, but there´s NO guarantee whatsoever that the accusition is true and the person is guilty, unless the case has been investigated by GoA. If we tolerate name and shame without a prove, this board would soon be flooded left right and middle by wild, baseless accusitions, counter-accusitions and counter-counter-accusitions.
We all want a cheatfree game. But on the other hand, I don´t want to be accused of cheating and see my reputation being damaged without a reason. And I think the same is true for the rest of the playerbasae who´re playing fair.

I can only say "amen" to this one cause it exactly says why naming and shaming is of no use and even bad. Thank you