Shadowzerkers Vs Critblades

[Generic Poster]

I can only say, LA styles beat me down like no other!

You shouldn't totally ignore Envenom either, I never trained it till lv40+, as I was going with a melee-heavy infil. But I like poisons now, it's extra damage per round which hits for more then my unstyled strikes.

Just a couple of things you might want to consider.




While I'm here, does the level of poison effect it's chance of sticking?

 

[sorwa]

How would a 50 sword, 50 cs and 37 stealth specc be in RvR now and in future patches?



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Sorwa - Level 40 Shadowblade
Vird - Level 45 Spiritmaster

 

[Solid]

IP makes Critblades useless imo, esp Critbades without Env skill without any Env.

 

[Lanfaer]

Originally posted by Solid
IP makes Critblades useless imo, esp Critbades without Env skill without any Env.

Think Narve is a CB and he's been doing rather well

 

[Solid]

He camps border keeps for lowbees, course he is doing well.
Critblades dont go around attacking Hybrids and tanks, whereas 5 specs and SZ have a greater optoin of targets, Critblades must choose very carefully who they attack.

 

[old.willowywicca]

Originally posted by Solid
He camps border keeps for lowbees, course he is doing well.
Critblades dont go around attacking Hybrids and tanks, whereas 5 specs and SZ have a greater optoin of targets, Critblades must choose very carefully who they attack.

does that mean your 5 spec will attack me one day?

 

[Solid]

I did say option i aint stupid

 

[Gallak]

Levelling up a little level 16 Shadowblade at the moment, my main is a Thane as someone from Gna Faste guessed the other day

Currently shadowzerker specc, autotrained stealth, Sword and LA at level, spare on envenom. Its fun, but in truth its even more tank than my Thane , I wanna go sneaky so I'm considering at 20 respeccing all my sword into CS and at 24 having:

21 CS
18 LA
high stealth
some poison

Which I thought was the soulblade spec, but these names come from everywhere so who knows

Pretty sure this is the lucky stealther spec, hope stealth keeps, hope crit works, hope for high damage on LA styles and hope posion sticks I think it suits my vision of the char too.

Any views on this? is it too much of a risk having high LA and no mainhand spec?

 

[Blood]

Originally posted by old.willowywicca


does that mean your 5 spec will attack me one day?

my 5spec have beaten you down

 

[iguk]

erhm oooh bloody ell....pudzy's template is exactly the same as mine eventho my sb aint 50 yet will be soon tho.

 

[snikit]

now that i've respecced i find that the LA dmg is (roughly) half of the right hand weapon could any one tell me why? Dont get me wrong i'm doing more dmg over the course of a fight i'm just confused why LA stlye do more dmg with the right hand???

 

[midmaster]

Originally posted by Solid
He camps border keeps for lowbees, course he is doing well.
Critblades dont go around attacking Hybrids and tanks, whereas 5 specs and SZ have a greater optoin of targets, Critblades must choose very carefully who they attack.

Geez what a great insult to great guy, and a great player. Since Narve never speaks up, i can tell you Mr Knowitall that he kills any con. And goes for any class, exception might be former Smithes. But i have seen him kill them as well, epic and all. If blues, greys or whatever comes in his way, surely he will kill it. But he is a quiet guy that don't like the zerging. And who does? You it seems.

I consider soloplayers to be so much better ones then the zerg monkeys that feed of eachother. Emain is the vultures major playground.

The reason ppl get upset by it is that some ppl can't leech rp from them. So, there you have it.

 

[Stinko]

Originally posted by Solid
He camps border keeps for lowbees, course he is doing well.
Critblades dont go around attacking Hybrids and tanks, whereas 5 specs and SZ have a greater optoin of targets, Critblades must choose very carefully who they attack.

Wondering how you have come to this conclusion, have you ever played with him??????
I for a FACT know Narve and know how he playes. Yes, he camps borders and NO he does NOT camp for lowbees. I´ve been with Narve in For. Sauvage several times and I can say he is playing his SB very well and goes for almost any target.

 

[Dook_Pug]

Originally posted by midmaster


But he is a quiet guy that don't like the zerging. And who does? You it seems.

How did you come to that conclusion from Solids last statement? I don't see it myself, please enlighten me.

The reason ppl get upset by it is that some ppl can't leech rp from them. So, there you have it.

LOL. That was funny. Can I use that?

 

[Lanfaer]

Well Solid is almost correct tho, according to Narve himself, he prefers not to attack the infils and heavy tanks of albion, since his attacks are a tad too slow, using a 2h most of the time. And he's not a "greyganker", he just happens to kill everything that crosses his path .. colorblind as he is, he doesn't care if they're grey or yellowcon .

But he do play his character very well, those who say differently obviously dont know jack, there's a reason why many albions think that Narve is an Epic mob in Sauvage

 

[midmaster]

Originally posted by Dook_Pug


How did you come to that conclusion from Solids last statement? I don't see it myself, please enlighten me.

LOL. That was funny. Can I use that?

Use it. Quote me. Do what you wish. But TPT thinks, with emphasis on THINKS, he knows it all. But the rest of us know that that is far from a fact. That is what i'm saying.

And Lanfaer: Yes, true. Why go for tanks when there casters? But since when did for example Walker become a lowbie?

 

[Lanfaer]

Originally posted by midmaster
But since when did for example Walker become a lowbie?

Guess there was a typo, they must've ment newbie

 

[Solid]

:sleeping:

OK

for how long was the saying "Narve just spawned in Sauvage" said?

I been sauvage loads and tbh you hardly ever get small bunches of level 50 albs there, unless you come in a large enuff force to pose a threat or some level 50's alt just got whacked.

EXACTLY the same as Yggdra. I never said there is anything wrong with hunting solo, or even hunting players/cons that offer you 99% chance of success.

I did however comment that Critblades are NOT as viable a spec as a SB. if you disagree fair enuff, like you keep saying, this is what I THINK.

If Critblades were so viable why has the best SB on the server respecced to 5 spec? (and no that aint Narve, its Azal)

 

[Solid]

Oh and another thing, Assasins owning Casters is nothing to boast about, its the one thing thats a dead cert (pardon the pun).

if Walker were to wander round solo or even in a pair, he would get ganked a lot, since he plays the game as it should be (in a RvR group with complimentary classes) it dont happen as often.

 

[midmaster]

Originally posted by Solid

if Walker were to wander round solo or even in a pair, he would get ganked a lot, since he plays the game as it should be (in a RvR group with complimentary classes) it dont happen as often.

Disagree. If one want's to solo instead of running like a stoned squirrel with 200 other roaming freaks, from amg to mmg, mmg to crim, crim to mpk...apk....etc...dohhh....sounds like a touristtrip for Japs. That type of playing style (solo) should be possible, cheered upon and encouraged.
Not bashed, ganked and ridiculed.

 

[old.Emma]

Emain = teh zergers paradise
Odin`s + Hadrians = Teh real RvR zones

makes me laugh sometimes on the pad in uppland.. 4-5 months ago it used to be loads of thanes/skalds/zerkers/runie`s etc, now its just SB`s with a couple tanks (thanes/skalds/warriors etc)

I just hope for middies sake that the nurfs in 1.56 drasticly reduce the number of SB`s in midgard. same for the other realms as well.. well maybe not hibernia as there are prolly only a half dozen NS`s that RvR on a regular basis.. but you know what i mean... and of course enchanters get there nurfs in 1.58.. well that Bug exploit they have been using for sooo long ie the LoS bug gets fixed atlast.. now if only they could fix the pet`s following you until the end of the world bug.

 

[zapzap]

Yes then we all go make a warrior ( allready have mine )
Run in slow motion stand toe to toe fights for 10 min, all having sc amor with heal procs, healers with heal spreads, uber resist on nukes. Some will find it more fun some less iam sure but cant see how 80 % tanks on pad in uppland is going to make the game better.

 

[nemesisgm]

Well yet again I'm different to everyone else it seems thankfully I like my individuality. Durgi's specced are as follows.

Sword 40
Stealth 35
Left Axe 8
Crit Strike 44
Envenom 40

To be honest i don't care how gimped you want to call it, it suits my fighting style very nicely. And I kill very effectively and effeciently. Theres possibly one or two classes in the game that cause me trouble one on one.. the merv and champion.. the rest are easy rp. When you can kill a lvl50 armsman without him even landing a blow and using IP with 2 friends around.. then you know your doing something right.

Durgi.

 

[nemesisgm]

BY the way I would just like to add how funny I find it that all the sb's are not encouraging the spec of high envenom when they ALL did nothing but snicker at me and knowingly tell me I was gimping myself by speccing envenom, and not running round with a two handed weapon.. oh how times have changed.

Durgi.

 

[Solid]

I am happy to call you gimp for speccing 40 ENv

DURGI UR A GIMP

Happy now?

Seriously tho, currently if you want Lifebane 37 Env is more than enuff

Currently in Mid you can get +9 with items, RR5 gets you Lifebane if you insist on it.

In a patch we get Spellcrafting and Dodens for random stat drops. Means +11 Env from items will be easy. RR5 for any assasin is easy so thats +15 in itself. Meaning 35 Env is plenty.

Durgi what do you currently achieve with 40 Base spec Env? People dont ridicule you for speccing Env, nor for wanting Lifebane, but quite rightly question why you set you aims so low.

40 Env +9 Items = 49. Surely you saw yourself getting past RR2?

 

[Jonaldo]

Originally posted by Solid
Currently in Mid you can get +9 with items, RR5 gets you Lifebane if you insist on it.

40 Env +9 Items = 49. Surely you saw yourself getting past RR2?

Perhaps he doesn't want +9 from items, so instead he can now use those item slots where all other SB's need +ev for other things like capping resists and stats... makes a lot more sense than relying on items just to raise your basic skills.

 

[Solid]

Considering +4 comes from epic gloves and if u dont use the DF +5 Env jewel next best SB jewel is Epic one, thats +3 Env/Stealth (imo rather valuable +skills to not use it) thats still +7.

I use the Epic Pin and gloves for +7 items as I am happy currently using the 40 DoT. frees up a necklace slot for something ther than +Stealth and measn I can wear the Glacier Giant cloak thats only got +3 Stealth and still have total +11 items.

It would be interesting to know your setup Durgi, if it works then great, maybe more base Env spec has allowed you to work on other areas of your SB.

 

[Jonaldo]

Would just like to add that I know nothing about midgard classes hope this wasn't too apparent in my last post

 

[Azal]

33 base env works fine for me, I use epic pin/DF jewel and epic gloves anyway so I wouldn't gain from speccing it higher.

 

[Derric]

Originally posted by Cornell


Perhaps he doesn't want +9 from items, so instead he can now use those item slots where all other SB's need +ev for other things like capping resists and stats... makes a lot more sense than relying on items just to raise your basic skills.

We switch items when putting poison on weapons