Sg :(

[Mr Bungle]

Originally posted by throdgrain
Sorry yeah I didnt notice Leiggies post, the rest of us however, were saying its a joke re clan matches.
I just cant see the point tbh. Use the shotteh in game by all means, but dont dedicate a game to it .

If it makes you any happier we're finding a grand total of zero clans willing to take us on mano-a-mano with M3. They're quite happy to do AWM/M4/AK vs M3, or SMGs vs M3 or ... and so on... Most of them won't even do FF matches... So it's a bit of a wash.

Sad. But true.

The point of doing M3 matches is a change of scene. It utterly changes the play of many maps. Imagine Aztec without a wall of AWMs facing you as you charge out in your bloodstained Artic Joe outfit... It opens maps up tremendously. It makes camping practically impossible (although sneaking around and blamming people is definately possible), it removes a large chunk of the netcode BS that you see too. No more rand-o-sprays resulting in headshots... The slow cycle of the M3 means that in the vast majority of engagements you don't die instantly, moreover you get enough time to react and retaliate... You can't spray through walls and expect to kill people either. Another subtle point about M3 matches is that it's very easy for a team on a slide to make a come back... No more saving for 3 rounds for a M4/AK and getting AWMd as soon as you move from spawn... It's more like save for a round - drop a few people with a pistol and then start the next round with an M3 and kick ass.

In essence I think that M3 only removes a lot of the frustrations that many players feel during a CS session.

Getting frags depends on aim, not ping or spraying. It's a head adjustment. Some people can make it, many can't.

Cheers,
Bungle

 

[isuck]

what he said.

all these people against the m3 only matches. bah. just cause u cant kill without a rifle so what. and calling m3 only matches 'pointless'. surely its only pointless if u dont enjoy it. which we do. so go away and play with ur colts.

isuck[SHOTTEH]

 

[throdgrain]

If you're bored of playing cs , leave it, go play something else for a bit. Its a game, not a religion.
If I dont want to play cs Ill go play dod, or q3, or something else. i have about 12 different games on me pc right now, all patched up and ready to go should I want to play them. And i do. I dont need variation on CS.
If I want to play cs I play it, AK's, and M3's, and everything. Not just one gun. Niether do I want to play with low gravity, or glowing red or whatever else there may be. Just my opinion,
its a free country , you can do what you like of course, but the fact that no one is interested in playing clan matches using only the shotgun may give you a clue towards thier opinion of it

/edit
What im trying to say really is, if you want to play like that good luck to you, its just that I dont thats all

 

[Tom]

Basically, you all suck.........


























.......with shotguns - you lot must require the power of sprayage and snipeage to get your kills. The number of times I've been called names because I ran around backalley with a mac10 killing left right and centre is hilarious - even more so when I've got a shotgun.

We don't want to be in any kind of 'league', we're simply asking like-minded fun clans to engage us in shotteh only PCWs - tell me, how is that 'stupid'?

 

[legendario]

Tom you say we need sprayage to win yet you comment on the use of a mac10?

The mac10 is worse than the m3... random spray = instant headshot.

 

[Mr Bungle]

Originally posted by legendario
Tom you say we need sprayage to win yet you comment on the use of a mac10?

The mac10 is worse than the m3... random spray = instant headshot.

Not really.

MAC10 requires you to point at the upper-body area. It also achieves most of it's kills by unloading a huge amount of lead quickly at point blank. You can do long-range shots with it, but they require you to be very fast on the old trigger, 2 shots at
most - anything else will be a waste of ammo.

It has been shown that on past CS versions all you had to do was to fire an auto-weapon long enough at anywhere in the entire model and you will get a HS. Some weapons were better than others for that, IIRC MAC10 was rated well behind MP5, AK, M4, 552 and AUG. For this reason I suspect that all those guns are in fact more popular than MAC10s.

Interestingly M3 and XM1014 didn't fit this model. They behaved as genuine point at the target and bullet goes where you aim - which coincidentally makes them less likely to inflict a HS. Using an M3 or XM1014 is a fairly large adjustment to ask of a lot of people and it's understandable that many don't enjoy having to up their accuracy from 15-20% to 80-95%.

Cheers,
Bungle

 

[old.D0LLySh33p]

mac10 is hs city.

 

[Lester]

head shot city? Is it Jam hot?

 

[Will]

Get that fucking song back out of my head, oldlester.

 

[legendario]

I'm sorry but the mac10 is more ridiculous than the mp5 for headshots now.

Spray = w!n

tbh if I see someone running at me with an mp5 I'll get right out of the way before I take him.

I'd rather take on someone with an ak which seems to decide at random if it's gonna fire bullets or just make the bullet firing noise.

 

[old.D0LLySh33p]

This is jaaaaaaam hot.