Server without ToA ??

[Morgan_Kane]

Pulled right off the Herald --

We are very pleased to announce our plan for the next server type for Dark Age of Camelot. We've made this decision based on your feedback from our polls and Herald feedback forms – thank you all for your passionate and detailed feedback on these issues.

The new server type will be called “Alternative Rules” and has two main features: no access to Trials of Atlantis and “ranged buffs”. Here are the details:

Trials of Atlantis: ToA zones will not be available, nor will Artifacts or Master Levels. You will be able to play ToA races, however.

Ranged Buffs: All concentration buffs will have a range limit of 5000 units, and will be available only to the buffer and his groupmates. Anyone outside of the group cannot receive concentration buffs.

/level 20: This feature will not be available on this server type.


"Our schedule is to launch two of these servers on or around July 14. We will “pre launch” the servers two days early for anyone who has an active account as of July 1st – it will give those players who already have active accounts a 2-day sneak preview of this new server type."


Thank you all for your feedback we have received on these issues, and we hope that this server type will provide an interesting alternative ruleset to Dark Age of Camelot. The work doesn't end here, however – please keep the feedback coming.

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Anybody know if this is planned for a Euro server as well ?
Should make things interesting..

 

[Thadius]

It would be a nice idea

But about 75% of server wouldnt go, iI mean theyve spent all this time getting mls, artis, realm ranks etc

 

[Morgan_Kane]

Well, i would go..would mean i didnt have to pharm my ass of to RvR.

But then again i just started playing Euro servers

 

[MKJ]

Leg pulling - right?

 

[Thadius]

No, they opening up a server stateside thats not toa

 

[DavidH]

Leg pulling - right?

Nope, its for real

 

[Morgan_Kane]

Actually, i thought people would be exited over this.
All i hear these days is how ToA ruined pvp.

If Euro servers arent starting this up like they do on Us, ill even contemplate going back there like old times.

I mean, new servers...less Buff bots (well atleast in RvR/PvP) , No ToA farming, and lots of players really seem tempting to me.

Really tempting

 

[Dwali]

sounds like OF again camping Amg/mmg time...i want a server with no artis/mls...for a new player that starts he dosent have to be gimp and not be able to compete in RvR with this server...back to getting sidi stuff in to template

 

[Gazon]

I think these new server types are a patch up job. They aren't willing to spend time and money to fix ToA so they give a cheap alternative to shut people up.

Many (all?) people are displeased with ToA and now Mythic can say:
"Don't like it? Go play on those servers!"

Mythic should fix ToA on all their servers, tbh: make it far less time consuming (no scrolls, 100% drop on instanced arti mobs, ML's doable with 2fg, ...) and tone down ML abilities at the same time. And yes, the use of bb's should have been fixed since day one.

People are already concerned these new servers will dilute the population on US servers and therefor drain pop from the current servers.
Because of this, I think they will not put such a type of server in Europe since the customer base, even with the people that would resub, would be too small to populate all servers.

Fun-to-read: Take a look on VN main Camelot boards. Nothing but threads about the new servers, why they suck, why they are brilliant and already people pleading for further alterations (gifv OF! delete Cata! etc...). Good stuff

On the up-side: Maybe, if these servers are (very) successful, they will realise people don't like ToA and they will hopefully fix ToA in the end, maybe.

 

[Ironfalcon]

Well I like toa for what it is.. it gives a nice alternative, for what to do when your bored, or when you get zerged like crazy by 3 fg's on stick in rvr.. theres always something you can do in ToA, solable, or 2 fg's doable.. ofc I agree, that there is some problems with the ml's etc.. but everything can be done with 1fg in toa.. more or less, and some of the parts would take fook all.. but in theory it can be done with 1fg.. and ofc I know theres a lot of pain getting scrolls, getting the artis you need. But so it would be to get the paladin sidi bp i.e. and tbh theres pve, and pvp, and even in new patch they are making scroll drops more, and most artis (i think) 100% drops, i.e eirenes hauberk, instead of the 15% chance.. There should be a balance, Mythic have made a lot of changes since they released toa. both upgrades and downgrades (nerf GOV, and CB change!) and tbh I wouldnt loose my 25 str, 25 con, 25 dex, 200 hits from toa bonuses..

 

[Kinag]

Dear Iron,

stop being a pve whore!

:worthy:

 

[Morgan_Kane]

Well for me this is simple, everybody that just used the last couple of years getting every damn artifact in the game to become half gods in Daoc just got screwed.

I personally think this will revitalize the game for a lot of people.
Everybody that wants, or needs a new start in daoc just got it.
And the way from start to rvr (competative rvr/pvp) is not a gazzillion camping hours in ToA anymore.

PvP/RvR wont be as fast paced as it is now, because most of the uberness is gone from the game.
You want die in 0.5 sec anymore because of ToA equipment and uberbuffed oponents.
Playing without buffbots?...man that just sounds sweet to me, as it should have been from the beginning.

I also think this will draw alot of people back to the game.

When it comes to whining on VN, whats new ?
I also think the fully decked out ToA accounts will whine the most.
Hey, welcome to an even battlefield..sucks doesnt it ?

 

[Deepflame]

They should fix buffbots in RvR on normal servers, not make a new server. I don't want even-fights on ANOTHER server, I don't even have 50s on ANOTHER server. I want to play with my toons on my server, and not move to re-level on another server. I want even fights on MY server.

 

[Aragyn]

I think alot of people have forgotten how OF was, the randoms didnt wtfpwn, they were farmed at mmgs. And you still have to get money to get a template, and moneymaking is DF without ToA, so it'll take time to get settled at a new server, and i wouldnt give up my template and start over, and not to speak of the hours i've used on mls, just let them go down the drain?

 

[DavidH]

Just for your information, the new servers will not contain OF. It will be NF.
So before you draw conclusions about AMG/MMG camping, its worth READING the true story on Camelot-Herald.

and to a few of the posters, wont name names. Speak for yourself.

 

[Aragyn]

Just for your information, the new servers will not contain OF. It will be NF.
So before you draw conclusions about AMG/MMG camping, its worth READING the true story on Camelot-Herald.

and to a few of the posters, wont name names. Speak for yourself.

You still think it'll be any different though? I think it'll still be the same people winning, and that people will get tired of getting farmed ---> and want to go pve or smt, but there is less choice, sure, sidi etc will be open again, but people are snobbs about their items now

 

[Morgan_Kane]

Point is that people can reroll now and be competative without spending years farming.

No bots, new server without TOA, + NO /lvl 20 will be awsome for most people.

Well, not for people that love beeing overpowered...but i dont give a rats ass about those people actually.

Sure, lots of people will feel they wont have the energy to start over again, but hey, nobody is forcing anybody to do anything.
If you like ToA and Buffbots you stay at normal servers, no biggie.

Hell if it gets as popular as i think it will be, it will be fun to start over.

bye bye, im DL 14 day free US DaOC as i post this =P

 

[Thadius]

They should fix buffbots in RvR on normal servers, not make a new server. I don't want even-fights on ANOTHER server, I don't even have 50s on ANOTHER server. I want to play with my toons on my server, and not move to re-level on another server. I want even fights on MY server.

Amen to that :worthy:

 

[Sporran]

basically, if you cba spending loads of time getting scrolls/arti's/lvling arti's, just go to the server. personally i enjoy the benifits i reap in rvr with my arti's, worth the time and effort put in to get them, and people shouldn't moan because they can't be bothered with them. as for buffbots, i'm sure the distance they can be used before they cancel would stretch from a tower to a keep, for defence/attack. would just mean my buffbot would have Di3 and my inf would be invulnerable for 3Khps because i've had to group my buffbot to benifit from the buffs. wonder if that radius would stretch as far s the bridge's at Beno.......

 

[Elitestoner]

wont be as good as everyone thinks it will be. but still i intend to move to this server at least for a while.

 

[Saggy]

I think alot of people have forgotten how OF was, the randoms didnt wtfpwn, they were farmed at mmgs. And you still have to get money to get a template, and moneymaking is DF without ToA, so it'll take time to get settled at a new server, and i wouldnt give up my template and start over, and not to speak of the hours i've used on mls, just let them go down the drain?

Mind to explain the underlined part? Makes absolutely no sense to me :S Your ToAed characters will be waiting for you to get bored on new servers, you aint loosing anything here. Getting RvR ready on those new servers takes less time than farming GoV+scrolls so time aint a problem either

 

[Vladamir]

Mind to explain the underlined part? Makes absolutely no sense to me :S Your ToAed characters will be waiting for you to get bored on new servers, you aint loosing anything here. Getting RvR ready on those new servers takes less time than farming GoV+scrolls so time aint a problem either

Very true and cool

One for you oh great Saggy

 

[Aragyn]

Mind to explain the underlined part? Makes absolutely no sense to me :S Your ToAed characters will be waiting for you to get bored on new servers, you aint loosing anything here. Getting RvR ready on those new servers takes less time than farming GoV+scrolls so time aint a problem either

True, but I have a fair feeling I would get bored and stop playing alltogether if I had to start over... That's how i was thinking... And ToA isnt that bad, sure, mls are a drag, especially if you miss cred etc, but that will be fixed... Can't belive it, but I'm speaking FOR ToA

 

[Shazzbot]

I would qiute like a go on these severs, does this mean I have to buy another account to get into the american servers?

Bit of a noob question I know - but still relevent

 

[Aragyn]

Not if GOA release it, then it would just be another server, but if you want to play on US you have to buy another acc. (I'm fairly sure )

 

[Doink-666]

I've read this before and think its good for the people that started playing the game in the beta days. I for one support the idea! mean least you could solo with to much hassle tbh, my pala was makeing around 15k unbuffed a day. Ok thats not like super amazing but it was just that I could log on in my spare time, run up to HW and get a few solo kills.

Think it would make fighting a challenge really, know for a fact friars would love it

 

[Ironfalcon]

Dear Iron,

stop being a pve whore!

:worthy:

What a useless comment! and btw.. look at my signeture.. :worthy:

 

[DavidH]

What a useless comment! and btw.. look at my signeture.. :worthy:

I wonder how long it'll last. £100 on 1 week anyone?

 

[Tosen]

I say 2 weeks, 8plats on it ^^

 

[Straef]

"Doh, lost stick x< Soz guys, gotta rebuff :<"

Actually, i thought people would be exited over this.
All i hear these days is how ToA ruined pvp.

If Euro servers arent starting this up like they do on Us, ill even contemplate going back there like old times.

I mean, new servers...less Buff bots (well atleast in RvR/PvP) , No ToA farming, and lots of players really seem tempting to me.

Really tempting

Well, I, for one hated toa, but after spending quite a loooong time getting 2 chars kitted I wouldn't just make a fresh start in some si template. Just think they're a bit late, tho it was hard to do this around the time toa got released. Besides, really got used to having ml's, banelord line being really nice to interrupt, and I'd hate going back to having no interrupts anymore :x
Wouldn't bother lvling/farming again, but I'd go there if it were some /level 50 freeshard