Seriously why don't mythic just delete armsman class?

[Danya]

people group mentalists?! wtf?

 

[Jonaldo]

Originally posted by Danya
people group mentalists?! wtf?

omfg stfu n00b ffs imo fyi!

*fluffle Hrod*

 

[old.GeForce]

Originally posted by tildson
Only issue with Armsman is the broken double-speccing, else they are fine.

wow, theres my humor for today, thanks for the laugh.

 

[tildson]

else they are equal to heros and warriors, but with abit worse styles.

glad i made u laugh, u must be very bored

 

[Shike]

actually tild is correct, the doublespeccing for 2h and poles is weird, otherwise they arent much different from Heroes except better armor and no moose.

 

[zapzap]

Originally posted by Shike
actually tild is correct, the doublespeccing for 2h and poles is weird, otherwise they arent much different from Heroes except better armor and no moose.

and nice group RA

 

[-redb-]

How much sheild do pala's usualy spec?

:spin:

 

[Xeanor]

palas usually spec 50 shield nowadays

 

[crookshanks]

Originally posted by tildson
else they are equal to heros and warriors, but with abit worse styles.

glad i made u laugh, u must be very bored

Well not really - I think people underestimate the value of Midgards ability to swap 2h/1h weapons without penalty. You can have a nice defensive char for pve, then out onto the battlefield, wip out the 2h and do decent damage - giving you a decent rvr char. An armsperson on the other hand has to choose defensive / offensive spec (people tried hybrids but they seem to have died out?). Offensive = good rvr, Defensive = good pve.

Hero's of course don't have this advantage either - however there are more hibby pbaoe groups which means a shield tank is more sort after for rvr.

The real problem with s/s armsman IMHO is (as a friend recently put it) Paladins. End regen, shield buff, heal chant, damage add chant all add up to make pallys far better defensive tanks than armsmen. Maybe making tireless RA actually work might make the s/s armsman life more tolerable?

 

[tildson]

i know, ive already explained the broken double-speccing.

pally need endchant, arms need groupability, such a dilemma

 

[cHodAX]

Hrod, make a nerco Either that or find 6 other people who are willing to delete and goto Hib and I will come, the thought of killing Aoln makes me go weak at the knees

 

[bone_idle]

Originally posted by Maeloch
Solo'ing for 4 hrs last night before I could get an RvR grp (and that was with 3 guildies on a late night skirmishing run, nice run too tho' ). Two or three hours to get a random grp is normal.

It's just as bad in hib with non-fotm classes.

I see quite a few of Na Fiannas running around. Your in their guild i think. I often group with guildies. even if its only 3 or 4 of us sometimes.

 

[stroopwafel]

Originally posted by bone_idle
I see quite a few of Na Fiannas running around. Your in their guild i think. I often group with guildies. even if its only 3 or 4 of us sometimes.

he plays at times when other people sleep

 

[Cernos]

Come Hib and have some fun as Hero or BM

I know exactly what you're going through. Heroes only just about hang in there with groups because there's no-one else in Hib that can block/guard properly AND have Determination (BMs can but seem to never spec for shield). Warriors got the best deal of all the pure tanks as they can go offensive or defensive with no penalty.

Dunno why some people think Champions still get groups though - haven't seen any about for months and I know several who have left the server/game because of it. Determination is FOTY and until Mythic nerf it nothing is going to change.

 

[hrodelbert]

went mid but thanks

 

[Cavex ElSaviour]

An easy armsman fix would be to give armsman reduced end cost.

 

[mandom]

Originally posted by Cavex ElSaviour
An easy armsman fix would be to give armsman reduced end cost.

for what, solo in pve? think most armsman wants something that make them usefull in a rvr grp ^^

 

[Brunore]

Originally posted by hrodelbert
Hrodlebert
Warrior
Nemesis

 

[speshneeds]

Originally posted by cHodAX
Hrod, make a nerco Either that or find 6 other people who are willing to delete and goto Hib and I will come, the thought of killing Aoln makes me go weak at the knees

ROFL

 

[Aoln]

Originally posted by cHodAX
Hrod, make a nerco Either that or find 6 other people who are willing to delete and goto Hib and I will come, the thought of killing Aoln makes me go weak at the knees

Keep thinking about it since it'll never happen

 

[Shike]

Originally posted by zapzap
and nice group RA

ow that too

 

[Aoln]

You better go to the BGs Hrod

 

[casbardh_deroos]

I remember reading in the lovely glossy guide book, whatever it was called, about siege weapons. That Armsman would use those as well.

Shame they were way to heavy, to utilise effectively.

Thats the way to upgrade an Armsman more than any RA, carry a siege machine with as many stones as you like to a keep and shoot away to your hearts content.

 

[Diodera]

Originally posted by Sagba
S/S Armsman rocks in PBAE group (Access to Det, great group RA, mucho blocking etc). You may have to use End regen pots for slamming but that ain't too much asked tbh ;p

I seriously dont see anything wrong with Armsman class. Maybe Xbow spec needs some improving but that's about it

50 shield pala + 50shield/slash armsman 3 icewiz 1 minser 2 clerics = tehwin + arms wont have to use endpot, problem solved