See Hidden?

[<Wels>]

Oh but they will, Mythic nerfs all classes that are most popular over a couple of months.

 

[Dorin]

Scout , hunter, ranger that starts an assassin becouse of 1.50
= no comment, i feel sorry for you guys. Its just lame too lame.

 

[old.Morchaoron]

Originally posted by Dorin
Scout , hunter, ranger that starts an assassin becouse of 1.50
= no comment, i feel sorry for you guys. Its just lame too lame.

Then tell me, why? because I want to have a solo class? whats so lame about that?
I chose scout because i wanted to have a good solo class not an archer... if I knew it would be changed afterwards I wouldn't have started one in the first place
anyway I see now I should have been a infil since the beginning, It's much more fun then a scout

 

[Artemls]

I just hope they neft the hell out of assassins. Yesterday it was 53 un-anon Infils of 480 players on. Getting abit to much now I'm happy to play my Infil to scout and kill only casters and the odd hunter/ranger.

Artemis

 

[old.Morchaoron]

Originally posted by Artemls
I just hope they neft the hell out of assassins. Yesterday it was 53 un-anon Infils of 480 players on. Getting abit to much now I'm happy to play my Infil to scout and kill only casters and the odd hunter/ranger.

Artemis

They probably will... its a endless cycle, lots people will always choose the class that they think is strongest, and mythic will always nerf the class people like most (or hate most, if you see it the other way)

 

[old.moriath]

Originally posted by old.Morchaoron


Then tell me, why? because I want to have a solo class? whats so lame about that?
I chose scout because i wanted to have a good solo class not an archer... if I knew it would be changed afterwards I wouldn't have started one in the first place
anyway I see now I should have been a infil since the beginning, It's much more fun then a scout

Erm why don't people wait a bit before trashing their archers... i mean see hidden is somewhat nerf'd next patch when we get camoflage. So we will be able to sneak about unseen again. Just means you will have to find a tree to hide behind for 10 mins after your kill.

It will be viable for hunters to venture into the frontiers alone again and with true sight take out those damn infils that dont have camoflage mwahahaha !!

I have played an Infil up to 24 and yes it was fun for a while. But to be honest I got bored with the fact that you really have no predetors. As long as you are smart you can avoid getting into positions that compromise your health. And can pick targets that suit u.

You do seem to be at the top of the tree in survival per RvR encounter as long as you know how to play the class.

 

[wolvon fury]

Ah, I remember seeing that mark on Screen shot one,

But, it looked like a smudge on my screen to me

And Number two, i had no clue

 

[Dorin]

Originally posted by old.Morchaoron


Then tell me, why? because I want to have a solo class? whats so lame about that?
I chose scout because i wanted to have a good solo class not an archer... if I knew it would be changed afterwards I wouldn't have started one in the first place
anyway I see now I should have been a infil since the beginning, It's much more fun then a scout

It seems some of you guys stop your chars becouse you can be owned and cant solo kill 10+ ppl in Emain now without getting killed (Yes this game is not Quake you know, but some ppl here really act like that.). And thats a lame thing. If you are not one of that type then just ignore my post. Btw Mythic is doing everything against "soloers". They have nerfed archers (i dont like See Hidden, but didnt like "omg xyz- hunter camping ligen and we cant do shit thing either), trust me they will nerf assassins too. What char will you start then ?

 

[Svartur]

Think you are missing or igoring Morchaoron's point Dorin.

He like many others started his archers cause he wanted a class that COULD run around alone. Whether as roleplaying a lonewolf, doing PvE or PvP.

And besides, who are you to critize him. I have never seen you alone anywhere, pre 1.50 or after, you hibbies are always in a zerg. O wait a sec, you are Doringaard? We'll guess I have seen you alone sometime then, couldnt tell by your sig who you where first. But you are mostly in zerg now anyways.

For myself I dont mind grouping. But groups dont always want you. Luckily I am in a very nice guild and grouping is almost always possible wherever you go. If it wasnt for them I'd probably quit long time ago.

/Cheers

PS: On a side note, there used to be a stealther cg up and running. A fellow hunter got turned down yesterday, cause its now a SB cg. Gee I wonder why? Not that is that many hunters around but its not very encouraging...
However there are mostly very nice emain cgs up and running so it's not a big thing, I even prefer them I think since I don't live long enough to be viable in a stealth cg.

 

[Tafaya Anathas]

Originally posted by Dorin


It seems some of you guys stop your chars becouse you can be owned and cant solo kill 10+ ppl in Emain now without getting killed (Yes this game is not Quake you know, but some ppl here really act like that.). And thats a lame thing. If you are not one of that type then just ignore my post. Btw Mythic is doing everything against "soloers". They have nerfed archers (i dont like See Hidden, but didnt like "omg xyz- hunter camping ligen and we cant do shit thing either), trust me they will nerf assassins too. What char will you start then ?

I don't want to solo 10+ ppl, and without the nerfing I think I still couldn't do that. Hibs and mids have more BT provider ppl then Albion, and if I shot 10 arrows, 7 would be 'miss' for sure. And if I can shot a caster from 1760 for 150-200 dmg, I get the nuke for 600-700 dmg from 1850, or nearsight. The main problem with archer nerfing that they are a bloody hell to lvl, and after you reach 50 at last, Mythic nerfs you. And Mythic against soloers? Then why the hell they have created the assassin classes?? Btw if they will nerf assassins, the real cause won't be that they are overpowered, the main cause is ppl's whining. Ahh, and what will I start if they nerf assassins? Another MMORPG for sure.

 

[old.Bull]

Originally posted by old.Blood|Prydwen
Brix - retired - quit the game

Nah, didnt quit the game and Brix is just on hold, abit sick of the hunter atm so I started a skald on excalibur (couldnt arse myself to learn about a new realm)

btw, grats on getting Bloodied to 50

 

[Gef]

Dear god .. another SB is nobody safe

 

[Dorin]

Originally posted by Svartur
Think you are missing or igoring Morchaoron's point Dorin.

He like many others started his archers cause he wanted a class that COULD run around alone. Whether as roleplaying a lonewolf, doing PvE or PvP.

And besides, who are you to critize him. I have never seen you alone anywhere, pre 1.50 or after, you hibbies are always in a zerg. O wait a sec, you are Doringaard? We'll guess I have seen you alone sometime then, couldnt tell by your sig who you where first. But you are mostly in zerg now anyways.

For myself I dont mind grouping. But groups dont always want you. Luckily I am in a very nice guild and grouping is almost always possible wherever you go. If it wasnt for them I'd probably quit long time ago.

/Cheers

PS: On a side note, there used to be a stealther cg up and running. A fellow hunter got turned down yesterday, cause its now a SB cg. Gee I wonder why? Not that is that many hunters around but its not very encouraging...
However there are mostly very nice emain cgs up and running so it's not a big thing, I even prefer them I think since I don't live long enough to be viable in a stealth cg.

In 1.52 he can run around alone mate, thats why i dont understand why he want to give his char up (if not for the ownage theory). And i used to run around alone before 1.50, but with see hidden + the rising number of infiltrators, shadowblades its aint worth it now. Agreed with Tafaya on that its pain to lvl a stealther (be it an archer or an assasin), and yea we were nerfed couse ppl whined and it sucks(maybe couse stealthers lead the rp lists). I never had problems getting into groups (in xp i had but that is over), imo that couldnt be a problem for albs/mids either. Btw Svartur dont even mention "hibi zerg" (actually it sucks, but come to odins i regulary go there), though many of us remember the day when midgardians actually owned Emain + relic + keeps for months, but i didnt say a thing about it

 

[old.Morchaoron]

Originally posted by Tafaya Anathas



I don't want to solo 10+ ppl, and without the nerfing I think I still couldn't do that. Hibs and mids have more BT provider ppl then Albion, and if I shot 10 arrows, 7 would be 'miss' for sure. And if I can shot a caster from 1760 for 150-200 dmg, I get the nuke for 600-700 dmg from 1850, or nearsight. The main problem with archer nerfing that they are a bloody hell to lvl, and after you reach 50 at last, Mythic nerfs you. And Mythic against soloers? Then why the hell they have created the assassin classes?? Btw if they will nerf assassins, the real cause won't be that they are overpowered, the main cause is ppl's whining. Ahh, and what will I start if they nerf assassins? Another MMORPG for sure.

I was about to say the same but you were faster hehe

Especially in a game like this, you choose your class and you look at what you want to do with it in the future, after you made up your mind you start leveling it, then after 2 months your char is finally 50, and you leave Lyoness with a big relieve, you can hardly believe you never have to kill a witherwood tree again!

So I went to emain... for 5 days I had great fun, it was not easy you had to be very alert for shadowblades and when you get in postion to kill someone you have to make sure no one else is around (we dont have that instant speed trick)

Then Darkness Falls came... well not a big deal... but it left the frontiers almos completely empty for some time...

When the DF hype was finally over, the patch came! well you know what happend after that I don't need to tell you....

but the thing is: If the make a class then why the hell do they have to change it so drastically afterwards? they could at least have nerfed my damage, but they changed the very apect of the archer class, from a stealther/hunter to a ranged group supporter (and stealth is absolutely useless in zergs), I've spend TWO MONTHS to get this characther 50! I planned everything in advance and the only thing that kept me going at those frickin trees was that if I were 50 I could stealth through emain and could have actually made a chance vs other stealthers

AND THEN THEY CHANGED IT! couldnt they have said that 2 months in advance?? then I would have picked a infil, or a wizard if I wanted to be a ranged group supporter like I am now, Is mythic vs soloers?? then why the hell did they made them in the first place??

don't get me wrong: I don't want to be a 'quake owner' who can kill everyone in the map, I simply wanted to have a solo class, its not that I don't like grouping, but I find playing a 'hunted hunter' much for fun, now I'm nothing more then a easy prey

 

[Tafaya Anathas]

old.Morchaoron:

"...I've spend TWO MONTHS to get this characther 50!..."

I've spend 6!! month...

Dorin:

"...I never had problems getting into groups ..."

Lucky you. For me levelling from 40 to 50 took 2 months, beacuse nobody wanna group with a scout.

So don't blame any archer for starting an assassin. They choose a solo class, because they like soloing. Don't try to learn a cat to bark.

 

[spyte]

Just had to reply from a Wizards point of View

Wow one class can spot you constantly sheesh a concept so rare to me.

The most deaths I have suffered In RvR are Archer/Assassin classes and I've only just started RvR'ing since that patch.

Also can you explain what is meant by a made a solo class? do you mean like to wander the frontiers alone and take out a lone target or do you mean I refuse groups but have a dozen assassin friends near me incase I get in trouble, The reason I ask this is the journey to AMG from APK you are guarenteed to have 5 pairs of stealthed eyes watching you just waiting for you to take that 1 step closer.

Having read the list of Midgard Hunters that have retired thier toon, I notice that they have made SB's why? again is it the solo option hmmm IMHO i suspect the reason is you want the ability to kill without being noticed and are reluctant to try a a seeable class because you are afraid to die.

Heres an idea for you archer classes not sure if it would work but why dont you group together and unleash volley after volley into a charging horde if you don't kill them all at least you weaken them. Just one tactic I was mulling over, Im pretty sure you could work out other tactics for yourself.

Now I dont mean to sound whiney or to flame people, It just saddens me when people give up on a class they have spent a long time Lvl'ing rather than try to adapt to thier flaws.

Remember I am relativley new to RvR so if I sound Idealistic surely it can only be a good thing

Taroc Wizard of 45 Season's and Proud Warder of he realms

Hoping the Frontiers dont become a stealther only zone

 

[Nemesis Warlock]

Quote:
Think you are missing or igoring Morchaoron's point Dorin.

He like many others started his archers cause he wanted a class that COULD run around alone. Whether as roleplaying a lonewolf, doing PvE or PvP.


The point is:

This is a team game no solo game


End

 

[Nemesis Warlock]

.....AND

The game changed drastically NOT due to see hidden, but due to every idiot plays a SB /INF /NS now ... cuz they think theyre the best ... well typically human i say...

 

[old.Emma]

Originally posted by Nemesis Warlock
.....AND

The game changed drastically NOT due to see hidden, but due to every idiot plays a SB /INF /NS now ... cuz they think theyre the best ... well typically human i say...


__________________
Spice, 50 Ranger Hib/Prywden
Lathis, 39 Druid Hib/Prywden
Slice, 12 Nightshade Hib/Prywden <----- NUFF SAID
Lhasar, 25 Champion Hib/Prywd

 

[old.willowywicca]

lol, he has 15 characters, and 2 of them are assassins? OMG you're so right, clearly he gave up on spice just to play an assassin cos his ranger sucks, and in no way has he been playing loads of alts for ages and tried a little bit of everything for variety, oh no! not that!

oh yeah, and spiceeey's right too

 

[Nemesis Warlock]

Thank you Malev....

Yes im still laughing pointing out a lvl 12 alt out of 15 chars while EVERYBODY knows Spice is my main and i play him 95 % all the time .....

NUFF SAID

 

[Gef]

The reason solo classes are such an attractive option is one reason and one reason alone... To not have to worry about the stupidity of others. How many times have you been in a mass zerg and one badly placed AE nuke breaks mez and everyone dies.

I started a Scout as my first ever char when I started DAoC, it was very tough so I quit at about level 12 and made a Cleric. At about level 35 I went to do some RvR and after about the 10th time of the same people running headlong into a hoard of purple middies I thought screw this. I knew what my Scout could do and decided to take him back up again.

Simple fact is that zerging sucks ass, Mythic basically forced archers back into the Zerg(tm) what the hell are we supposed to do? We learned to play solo, we enjoy playing solo in RvR. If the whole of emain turns into a stealther playground so be it, its Mythic that screwed it up by turning all archers into assasins.

Double the Assasin population and you have a major problem, they will nerf Assasins soon because people will get cheesed off with dying to some unseen foe time after time. Ultimately it will lead to people leaving to pastures new, because the class they learned to play from the start got taken away and given back as something they no longer like.

 

[Blood]

Originally posted by old.Bull
Nah, didnt quit the game and Brix is just on hold, abit sick of the hunter atm so I started a skald on excalibur (couldnt arse myself to learn about a new realm)

btw, grats on getting Bloodied to 50

nice you are not gone completely, we had actually been talking about we missed you.

come back and play with us

 

[Blood]

Gef: you are right, and ALMOST hit it right on... the big strength assasins have (and archers used to have), is that they can pick their fights

 

[Gef]

Another point is that now archers have become a prime target for assasins. Plus with no stealth we are completely defencless against them. Well like I always say if you cant beat em, join em.

 

[Blood]

Originally posted by Svartur
PS: On a side note, there used to be a stealther cg up and running. A fellow hunter got turned down yesterday, cause its now a SB cg. Gee I wonder why? Not that is that many hunters around but its not very encouraging...
However there are mostly very nice emain cgs up and running so it's not a big thing, I even prefer them I think since I don't live long enough to be viable in a stealth cg.

I think it was me that mostly used to start the stealther cg with Blood, back then hunters and shadowblades were hunting together... bla bla bla..... yadda yadda yadda... if you want a stealther cg up and running again instead of the sb cg, then i suggest you start it yourself, and start inviting hunters and sb's.

from xp groups to relic raids, everything in this game takes initiative, including chatgroups

 

[Blood]

Originally posted by Gef
Well like I always say if you cant beat em, join em.

awww.. come to midgard then

 

[Nemesis Warlock]

Quote:
Another point is that now archers have become a prime target for assasins. Plus with no stealth we are completely defencless against them. Well like I always say if you cant beat em, join em.

Well like I always say if you cant beat em, join em.

cough cough

How spineless..

Thats exactly what 80 % of the germans did in 2nd World war...
Was it right ?

(I know its a game - just associating. And No - assasins are NO nazis )

EDIT:

Anyone offended plz exchange German with Kroatian and Nazis with Serbian .. or what u like ... anyway no one can be offended .. read my sign i know what im talking of.

 

[old.willowywicca]

Originally posted by old.Blood|Prydwen
from xp groups to relic raids, everything in this game takes initiative, including chatgroups

So very very true, yet so few people seem to realise this and expect everything to fall on their laps for them

 

[old.Sko]

Originally posted by Nemesis Warlock
Quote:

Anyone offended plz exchange German with Kroatian and Nazis with Serbian .. or what u like ... anyway no one can be offended .. read my sign i know what im talking of.

Personally i`m offended by your edit. Maybe you meant NATO countries, not Serbians ?