See Hidden?

[Nemesis Warlock]

ok then forget about it ... no offense meant...

perhaps exchange serbian with... em... white man and kroatian with black man ...

omg now im getting flamed by EVERY white man on this planet

 

[Gef]

Originally posted by Nemesis Warlock
cough cough

How spineless..

LMAO, you got that right, I think the moment came when I went on the usual zerg to the AMG that was being camped by Mids. A bit standoff ensued, me being an archer did the archer thing and tried to pick off people on the walls. Didnt really hit much, most of the mages etc had bladeturn up, eventually I got dusted by some RM. Got rez went and sat down at the back to rest, 20 seconds later, whack, PA, Poison, dead again. Got rez same happened, even while I was stealthed, I remained rez sick and useless for a fair while afterwards.

Plain matter of fact is archers have no unique traits anymore, you want a ranged damage dealer, you choose a mage, you want agile close combat and crap armor you choose a light tank.

I am spineless, your right at the end of the day most stealth classes have to be to stay alive. Which is why I like to play the gutless assasin that takes his time over what he kills, then attack when its least expected. Mindless zergs are complete BS.

I have levelled a lot of chars to 30+ including, Cleric, Fire wiz, Paladin, Thane .. and TBH none of them really make me want to keep playing the class. Pure melee classes are too limited, caster classes are too vunerable, and support classes tend to be a little frustrating. Whats left, stealth classes... now archers are reduced to the role of defending keeps, or running round behind a large zerg and praying that if you do meet some enemies you can get a shot off in time to earn a few RP.

Playing a Nightshade in Hib at the moment and enjoying it thouroughly. Not been turned down from a group yet and the people seem very friendly, I have even had people send me and ask if I wanted to grp!

Its a shame about archers, they were a really fun class to play. Ah well one more class needlessly nerfed into oblivion. I wonder what they will do next.

 

[Nemesis Warlock]

Well its not sooooooo bad at alll

ok

They took the possibility from archers to one hit (saying it was unfair and giving mages single BT)

and in the same minute powered the assasins to 2.2 (2.5) specs and did see hidden... ect .ect .ect

but who cares .. i still do my 10k RP per day if i play fully ... i know theres a runie that can do more.. but hey .. who cares.. if id think so i couldnt go on holiday anymore

i can tankabit and shootabit .. thats ok

some can tank better but not shoot .. soem can bolt me dead but not melee me...

i kill 60% of assasins if they miss PA .. and i run around like a mad luri ... so if they stab me i punch my /yell macro.. hehe anyway im a crap tank with a good bow or a crap bolt mage with super melee skills ... what ever ...

or in other words ...

YES WE NEED MORE POWER AGAIN

but ill never skip spiceeeeeey ...

SHALL I PRYWDEN HIBS ?

 

[Gef]

Arguably rangers are the best of the archers. Scouts are designed snipers, with long range and a slow powerful bow, completely naff melee skills. Really I think the see hidden nerf hit Scouts the hardest.

Maybe when camo comes out and they fix blocking I will go back and have a play again. I do love the archer class, but I just havent got the patience to level a difficult class to xp with just to find out they are gimps in RvR.

 

[Nemesis Warlock]

Hm which alt should i lvl today

Well gef seems u definately (right spelling?) messed up your realms u should have chosen Alb on excal and hib on prywd m8


We could lvl NS then hehe... or bards

 

[spyte]

Been Thinking on see hidden a bit more and to be honest Im mystified why they actually gave the assassin this ability,

Most Assassins were typicaly from an Urban enviroment kept to the shadows of walls etc etc ok they would still be extremly good out in the wilds.

The Hunter/Ranger/Scout are a typical Rural class very adept at tracking and knowledge of woodlands and grasslands so would it not have been better if see hidden had been given to this class to reflect thier superior knowledge of tracking and yes also allow them to spot Assassins as well.

The flaw I see in that thought is A Long range user could effectivley take out any class with relative ease, but then on the flip side of the coin an assassin class would then be forced to use cover of trees rather than stand in the middle of open ground (IMHO that Is a complete Farce).

If anyone could help explain the reason's they got this skill I would be intrested to know.

Taroc Wizard of 48 Season's and Proud Warder of the Realm

 

[old.Torfa]

Originally posted by Gef
Scouts are designed snipers, with long range and a slow powerful bow, completely naff melee skills.

slam?

anyway i just love stealthers whining pls continue this thread

 

[Gef]

Originally posted by spyte
Been Thinking on see hidden a bit more and to be honest Im mystified why they actually gave the assassin this ability ...

... If anyone could help explain the reason's they got this skill I would be intrested to know.

Well the whole aim of the skill was obviously to nerf archers too hell. I guess it didnt really matter which class got it, it prevents archers from soloing. In the words of Mythic, archers are 'Overpowering solo killers'. Didnt really matter which class got it, I guess assasins seemed the obvious choice due to their 'Detect Hidden' skill.

I bet most of the assasins out there that bought See Hidden havent really gotten that many kills from it. What I dont get is why they didnt just take stealth off archers and free up a spec line.

 

[Gef]

Originally posted by old.Torfa


slam?

anyway i just love stealthers whining pls continue this thread

Dont really think you can officially call an archer a 'stealther' any more. More like a gimped caster.

Slam is nice but it hardly makes up for having a toothpick for a sword.

 

[Gamah]

Originally posted by Meatballs
How many scouts/hunters/rangers are giving up in disgust after this?

I thought as I'd never seen any other pictures posted of see hidden anywhere I'd let people who don't have it see it for themselves. I made a little game, unfortunatly I didn't plan very well and the 2 targets are about centre of my screen (hint!) so any other see hiddeners want to do some off centre ones people can have more fun guessing!

This is an easy one to get you warmed up!
http://meatballs.murky.net/images/daoc/spot_the_stealther_1.jpg

Need good eyes for this one!
http://meatballs.murky.net/images/daoc/spot_the_stealther_2.jpg

If you're really stuck add an "a" to the end of the filename (before the .jpg)!

dark times indeed

 

[Blood]

sillly girl, bumping 1 year old threads... maybe you should go read patchnotes on the herald!!

 

[Sharma]

Silly customer, you cannot harm the twinkie!

 

[behatch]

lol-i actually carnt believe how crap the qb buttons are,and too think when the new ones came out my /gu was spammed with i dont like the new buttons,lol wtf there hella boring

 

[Cinwin]

Out of interest, when 1.60 (or was it 1.62 ) came SH was altered and everyone got their spec points back.

Personally on my blade I opted for MoP instead, but, did anyone respec into See Hidden and, if so, how does it perform in the environment ?

Unsure if its still worth 8pts or wait until something like RR10 for the luxury RA's.

 

[mavericky]

I have a see hidden on my sb still, i can see my hunter from about half clip range still (he has 47 stealth) apparantly it makes a big difference the closer you are to 50 stealth though (or above) so will test that soon too