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katt!

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Originally posted by cerberan
aye I know it was, like everything u have been whining about all day long....

We will do our raids when we see fit ... Live with it !

then bend over and admit you suck?
 
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AbPoon

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Get off the forums Hibs and start defending your last relic
 
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Khalen

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LOL so amusing when albs did it everyone went bananas and defended their point, now mids do it and they defend their own point while they moaned just so hard how lame it was... LOL just makes laugh real hard :)
 
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agreiloth

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funny thing is that i never moaned about night/morning raids before.... hm guess it was the mighty chieftans of midgard then..

we better listen to them.....
 
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shilak

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Its quite simple really ... The game runs 24/7, if you cant defend the relics 24/7 then you dont deserve to own the relics 24/7.

Now, maybe if you stopped whinging in IRC or BW and actually played the game you might be able to defend your relics a little better. You had plenty of time to muster some defence once the keeps starting falling, or did you just assume it was the middies getting keeps for DF access again?

Finally, it is not our job to ensure that there are players defending YOUR frontier and relics, that is your job.

P.S. I didnt moan at all when the albs took our strength relic, we failed to defend it adequately and as a result we lost it. These things happen.
 
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katt!

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[08:02] <Cheol> 56 ppl online

that was when the first relic went neutral.
 
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shilak

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Originally posted by kedal
[08:02] <Cheol> 56 ppl online

that was when the first relic went neutral.

And by checking the GOA website the server population at that time was at most 223 ppl, so 56 hib, about 70 mids (I did a /who at that time also as I had just logged in to get a spot in lair) and the rest albs. Now bearing in mind that most of the hib keeps had fallen almost an hour earlier, Im pretty sure you could of gathered 2-3fg of hibs to help defend your relic keep had you a) been bothered or b) realised that it was actually under threat.

Hmm, maybe we should just ban taking keeps/relics unless it falls within the following hours: -

7pm-11pm GMT Monday to Friday
10am-11pm GMT Saturday and Sunday

Hey, maybe we can get Mythic to code the game to enforce this. Get real. The game is designed to be played 24/7, either accept that or go play a game where you can arrange a time and a place for everything upfront, like CS or Q3.
 
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old.Tzeentch

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....
and, when we all start assembling 4fg, asking the alliance who is up for an allnighter for a raid...

and when we go, get the relics, and go back home..

and you guys do it to us the next night

and then the albs do it

then us

repeat x 100

who will give a fuck about relic raids anymore?

do you see anyone willing to bust out 10plat everytime to repair doors?

do you remember when a person from one of the french servers came here asking about our relic situation, because they could not afford to repair the doors, which had effectively destroyed relic raiding on that particular server?

and GOA intervened by lowering the doors and therefor making it cheaper..

and you would like to see this happen to excalibur, why?

so we can go to prydwen?
 
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shilak

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Tzeentch, if you dont want to get into the sort of cycle that you are describing then by all means dont bother taking any relics outside of 'primetime' hours.

At least this way when you come into the middie frontier you are likely to encounter more resistance than before as we actually have something to fight for now. But of course if you prefer to spend your time zerging and counter-zerging the albs constantly, feel free to go ahead with the dawn raid you have no doubt planned, of course dont complain at us all calling you hypocrites for doing something that you have so blatantly condoned.

PvP pretty much killed the RvR side of midgard, as we lost far more experienced players to it than either albion or hibernia (just take a look at the RP earnings per realm for the past week, or the number of characters per realm in the top 100 that earned 0 RPs last week). This has given a new lease of life to midgard and will hopefully help excalibur avoid devolving into a two horse race.
 
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old.Nol

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Originally posted by shilak
Tzeentch, if you dont want to get into the sort of cycle that you are describing then by all means dont bother taking any relics outside of 'primetime' hours.

At least this way when you come into the middie frontier you are likely to encounter more resistance than before as we actually have something to fight for now. But of course if you prefer to spend your time zerging and counter-zerging the albs constantly, feel free to go ahead with the dawn raid you have no doubt planned, of course dont complain at us all calling you hypocrites for doing something that you have so blatantly condoned.

PvP pretty much killed the RvR side of midgard, as we lost far more experienced players to it than either albion or hibernia (just take a look at the RP earnings per realm for the past week, or the number of characters per realm in the top 100 that earned 0 RPs last week). This has given a new lease of life to midgard and will hopefully help excalibur avoid devolving into a two horse race.
As you knew it would, your relic raid has opened up a whole new can of worms. You have not just set you up for the Hibernian counter raid, but you have also justified Albion raiding in the early hours again. As you well know, you cannot hope to compete with them numbers wise.

Don't blame it on population and pvp, because that is plain bullshit, Hibernia has had a smaller population with fewer level 50's throughout excal's history and we have managed to take both yours and albions relics without resorting to pathetic NPC raids. How can you take a moral high ground against zerging? raiding NPC relics is far, far worse. I cannot believe at you have the audacity to call us hypocrites, did you choke on the irony? Someone in one of the posts mentioned that he thinks this proves that Midgard is something without CE and NP, personally I think it has done the opposite - you all just stood up and said "Hey look at us, we are the twatts". Have fun with your 24/7 NPC raids, you achieved something truly great.

Be prepared to reap what you sow.
 
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noaim

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It is not us making fools out of ourselves...it is the hibbies that whines here (note, the hibbies that whines here, not every hibbie), you are the twatts :)

Man I wish I saw your face Nol when you found out we stole your beloved pixels that noone would get up early to care about, but that are worth the anger and time it takes to whine here :)

Bring it on baby!
 
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old.Nol

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I on the other hand wish I never do because anyone that places such high value on so weak an accomplishment is not worth a second glance, never mind a first. Sorry to break your illusion fella, but the alarm clock war has made you out to be a bit of an arse rather then a respected opponent. Your victory was hollow, and it stings doesn't it?
 
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noaim

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I didnt set any alarm I played all night, first I participated in taking some keeps from albs, then I was on the failed raid against them, after that I went to DF and PL´ed a few guildies on Umbroods/Knights and while we were there we heard about the raid against you, and went to help, no alarm clock for me ;)

Anyways, if I´d knew you would get so upset about it, I would prolly try to arrange non-"primetime" raids myself at least 3 times a week haha, your anger is the best part ;)
 
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Runolaz

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Originally posted by old.Nol
I on the other hand wish I never do because anyone that places such high value on so weak an accomplishment is not worth a second glance, never mind a first. Sorry to break your illusion fella, but the alarm clock war has made you out to be a bit of an arse rather then a respected opponent. Your victory was hollow, and it stings doesn't it?

Do you think we give a xxxx what you think of our raid. This is a 24/7 game and we do raids as we see fit...primetime or not...

Wake up and smell the coffee dude...

You have held on to those relics for ages, and now you whine like a baby, because you lost your candy...pathetic.
 
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old.Tzeentch

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Originally posted by shilak
Tzeentch, if you dont want to get into the sort of cycle that you are describing then by all means dont bother taking any relics outside of 'primetime' hours.

At least this way when you come into the middie frontier you are likely to encounter more resistance than before as we actually have something to fight for now. But of course if you prefer to spend your time zerging and counter-zerging the albs constantly, feel free to go ahead with the dawn raid you have no doubt planned, of course dont complain at us all calling you hypocrites for doing something that you have so blatantly condoned.

PvP pretty much killed the RvR side of midgard, as we lost far more experienced players to it than either albion or hibernia (just take a look at the RP earnings per realm for the past week, or the number of characters per realm in the top 100 that earned 0 RPs last week). This has given a new lease of life to midgard and will hopefully help excalibur avoid devolving into a two horse race.

You missed the point entirely - it does not need ME to do it, it just needs 4 random groups.. we get these amount of people a lot of the time, legion, princes, epic zone runs... the day might come when they decide to go in the morning to a relic keep, and I can't do anything about it.

What you guys have done here, is set a precedent, not only that, but you appear to wish to provide some justificiation for it, which frankly not many can see, and the only thing that is being said from the people who went on the raid is 'hahaha you suck we did this we are so elite' ...

That pretty much sums up virtually everything that's been said from that camp so far.

They say not to tar them all with the same brush, but i see a stunning lack of intelligence from such a large playerbase.

I'm not saying it's bad that midgard gets relics... I'm saying it's a really bad precedent, and you guys just dont seem to want to admit that.. dawn raiding is fun for the people attacking (possibly), and no one else. It indirectly affects the 1800+ people on the server, but involves only a few dozen.

<shrug>

Again, I wonder how the responses will be.. I'm almost certain they will be of the same calibre as half the crap I've seen so far...
 
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Runolaz

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Originally posted by old.Tzeentch


What you guys have done here, is set a precedent, not only that, but you appear to wish to provide some justificiation for it


Why do we need justificiation for it...plz tell were I can find that in the rules

Originally posted by old.Tzeentch

which frankly not many can see, and the only thing that is being said from the people who went on the raid is 'hahaha you suck we did this we are so elite' ...That pretty much sums up virtually everything that's been said from that camp so far.


First none that actually took part in the planing of the raid for LFoM-alliance has uttered a word about "you suck" etc...that is your words. We for sure don't seek any "elite" status, we play for fun nothing else.

Originally posted by old.Tzeentch


I'm not saying it's bad that midgard gets relics... I'm saying it's a really bad precedent, and you guys just dont seem to want to admit that.. dawn raiding is fun for the people attacking (possibly), and no one else. It indirectly affects the 1800+ people on the server, but involves only a few dozen.


Again we don't need to admit anything. We wanted our relic back and we took it...simple as that. You can take it back, but we will be there again you can rest asure on that. We will do primetime raids too, but if we get a situation with Mid without relics and with little hope gaining one we will do this again. You can call it "lame" or what ever, but thats life...deal with it.

Originally posted by old.Tzeentch


Again, I wonder how the responses will be.. I'm almost certain they will be of the same calibre as half the crap I've seen so far...

We are w8ing...it will only give us an exuse to go to hibby-land, for an early morning tea :p
 
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old.Tzeentch

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Re-read, and look at the context.

Answer me this - Are you or FoM alliance happy if it turns out that raids are done every few nights, with no resistance, and eventually people stop caring at all about relics? That even the doors wont be repaired?

Don't think about 'yeah midgard will be happy' - think about the longterm life of the game and this server.
 
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killrake

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Originally posted by old.Tzeentch
Re-read, and look at the context.

Answer me this - Are you or FoM alliance happy if it turns out that raids are done every few nights, with no resistance, and eventually people stop caring at all about relics? That even the doors wont be repaired?

Don't think about 'yeah midgard will be happy' - think about the longterm life of the game and this server.

Why dont u ask so u can change the Title under ur name,
it should be

" WHINES TO MUCH" not "Talks to much" ROFLMAO
 
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elerand

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Grats to the mids, fuck everyone who whines about late night raids, think since there are players in different times zones (or is everyone here being gmtcentric?) raids are totally allowable at any hour, people couldn't maintain a respectful truce in emain a few months ago to the end (when it mattered) and here we have people whining over paperclips. Totally petty nonsense, no gentlemans agreement, no, just put people down for trying something at such a late hour, considering how few mids there were I'm impressed and think recognition serves better than condemnation.
 
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old.Tzeentch

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Originally posted by killrake


Why dont u ask so u can change the Title under ur name,
it should be

" WHINES TO MUCH" not "Talks to much" ROFLMAO

or

'Plays on Alts too much'

ROFLMAOAJEOAJNDAONGSEA!!!
 
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elerand

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Originally posted by shilak
Tzeentch, if you dont want to get into the sort of cycle that you are describing then by all means dont bother taking any relics outside of 'primetime' hours.

At least this way when you come into the middie frontier you are likely to encounter more resistance than before as we actually have something to fight for now. But of course if you prefer to spend your time zerging and counter-zerging the albs constantly, feel free to go ahead with the dawn raid you have no doubt planned, of course dont complain at us all calling you hypocrites for doing something that you have so blatantly condoned.

PvP pretty much killed the RvR side of midgard, as we lost far more experienced players to it than either albion or hibernia (just take a look at the RP earnings per realm for the past week, or the number of characters per realm in the top 100 that earned 0 RPs last week). This has given a new lease of life to midgard and will hopefully help excalibur avoid devolving into a two horse race.

I would like to point out that Tzee did say "easiest 6k rps I ever made" upon releasing from mid after our failed attempt to tale the relic but then the cat was already out the bag after we steamrolled some mids near the hmg so even if we had dressed as clowns and been throwing custard pies we couldn't have done it anyway ;)
 
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killrake

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Originally posted by old.Tzeentch


or

'Plays on Alts too much'

ROFLMAOAJEOAJNDAONGSEA!!!

Rofl dont talk of anything u dont know, and that is much.

If u think u can get ur relic back here u are wrong little whining baby, get out and get it instead.

If u used half the time u do in barrysworld ingame u would have it back by now. NOOOOOB
 
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old.Wildfire

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tzee speaks truth.

mids still suck in rvr so *shrugs*
 
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brommix

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Hands the whining Hibs a lollypop :).....Now pls go sulk somewhere else
 
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AbPoon

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Originally posted by old.Wildfire
tzee speaks truth.

mids still suck in rvr so *shrugs*


Wildfire this is rather funny coming from an Alb and you know it.

You might be a decent fight but 90% of your realm m8's relly dont have a clue.

Alb groups constantly get blasted and flamed over these boards for being a crock of shit by your realm and everyones else's, including you if i remember corectly.

Nice to take the flames away from Albion for once isnt it? :)
 
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AbPoon

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BTW is Balrog gonna be one of the hibbys ram men for the relic raid?

Sorry had to ask :p
 
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Pikabu

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Originally posted by 1Jesta
You all better log youre mains inside relic keep and play alts 24/7, coz you aint keeping it past this weekend.

hmm ok weekend soon over ;)
who have the relics ?
 
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Runolaz

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Originally posted by old.Tzeentch
Re-read, and look at the context.

Answer me this - Are you or FoM alliance happy if it turns out that raids are done every few nights, with no resistance, and eventually people stop caring at all about relics? That even the doors wont be repaired?

Don't think about 'yeah midgard will be happy' - think about the longterm life of the game and this server.

The LFoM-alliance is happy that we brought two relics to Midgard. If it leads to more raids...cool. I think most mids stoped caring about relics a long time ago, and actually, at least to me having Relics is not MAKING or BREAKING the fun of the game.

I think the longterm effect will be a server that as more live than the constant zerging in Emain, if the above is true.
 

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