Scouts - Erm, how do you kill them?

rvn

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Kinad said:
Mistakes happens, ra's might be down but i doubt from a good sniping position
any sm will survive simply becuase pet is probaly dead on first assisting crit.
My cap is 1215 and with relics i doubt any sm pet will survive a dual hit.

Now if we opened fire from close range in anticipation that 2 other stealthers
close by would add, and they didnt its quite possibel we died.
Also either Lath or me might have oppend fire without the other being ready,
putting us in a bad position.
We might even have underestimated the enemy, just firering on a passing sm thinking it was an easy kill.

We die all the time, no problem, but its stupid to underestimate archers, and they have a chance against most opponents if timed right.

you do know that pets get pretty high abs when fully buffed? :)
 

Danya

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rvn said:
you do know that pets get pretty high abs when fully buffed? :)
Red con mobs hit my salamander pet for ~30 while styling with a polearm. :p
 

Kinad

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Danya said:
Red con mobs hit my salamander pet for ~30 while styling with a polearm. :p

Yes and i duo Chimera with my necro as easy as i wipe my arse, but thats
not rvr conditions :)
 

Mathiyn

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RS|Phil said:
I kick most scouts bums all over this BG but I think this is just one that's decided to go doolally on SCing his stuff, and the quality of it.

Here's one scout you DIDN'T kick the crap out of most of the time in BG3

Glad to see you are still playing, not spoken to you since we had that debate about the bridge pillar in BG3. Looking forward to seeing you/killing you in NF. Take care mate :)
 

Khartoum

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rvn said:
you do know that pets get pretty high abs when fully buffed? :)

Which is no problem as the pet can intercept one attacker only. Rapidfire = multiple attackers = arrows will linger through the pets interception. Works like a charm.
 

noaim

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Khartoum said:
Which is no problem as the pet can intercept one attacker only. Rapidfire = multiple attackers = arrows will linger through the pets interception. Works like a charm.

I bet you can back that up with some logs or something? :rolleyes:
Because I am pretty sure that some assisttrains that been on my ass would disagree with you. ;)

Ohh and the absorb on pet doesnt work very well vs arrows ;)
 

Danya

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Khartoum said:
Which is no problem as the pet can intercept one attacker only. Rapidfire = multiple attackers = arrows will linger through the pets interception. Works like a charm.
Pet can intercept multiple attackers.
 

Raven

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Aussie said:
engaging requires end. try shooting him till his end bar is empty. doubt he'll block more then 50% after that

firing arrows also uses end, more than engage does
 

Sauruman

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RS|Phil said:
Yup, I'm Phillip. :) Sorry for all the times I killed you... must be into the dozens of times, but that goes for everyone there except one or two people.
It's not a whine about scouts btw, it's just a few questions that I had. On the whole I'm totally dominated Leirvik with my toon, mostly down to an insane level of stealth and MoS3.

The thane bit was Bowdealer, and he's the one who was stupidly hard - I think I got him as much as he got me. In the end though I think he had MoS3 too, and IP1 so he was hard to kill. Though I did kill him a few times right after posting this. Best way I found was to just find him and crack him with my spear. Also think I'm the only mid there with a buffbot..

Can you imagine the PMs I get? :(

Sureshot is an active ability, so you press it and your character draws a shot and then fires as normal - It's got the same range as normal shot, and the same damage as a non-critical - but it goes through all bladeturns for max damage.

The more you put into it the lower the re-use timer.


I killed u sometimes too :p But much more difficult for me to solo a mid, since mids r everywhere in Leirvik :\ Well than Bowdealer and me had a equal fight, maybe to the same thane, since i almost killed him too. But buffed against unbuffed isn't fun, when the person even sees u first stealthed :X
 

Chadalonius

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The thane bit was Bowdealer, and he's the one who was stupidly hard - I think I got him as much as he got me. In the end though I think he had MoS3 too, and IP1 so he was hard to kill. Though I did kill him a few times right after posting this. Best way I found was to just find him and crack him with my spear. Also think I'm the only mid there with a buffbot..

Aww, he's my guildie. He does have MoS3 but he's just hit RR3 and 45 so you won't have to worry about him anymore ;)
 

Qtwo

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A scout dont need to Engage to block. With my 50 scout 42+15 shield Mob3 I can have 3 hunters shoot at me and I block 80%. 2 Hunters 90%+ 1 hunter 99%.
With str relics hunters(same RR, Armor, ML ect) cant really do anything to Scouts. In the bow department Albs have the best class.
 

RS|Phil

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Lo Banete :)
Been out of the game for a long while now, came back to check out NF.
And no I didn't do nearly as well in BG3 as I've done in the new BGs :D Hitting RR3 within a week was fun. Especically dinging 2.5 levels in the process.
 

Mithradir

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Too bad i just show this nice topic. Indeed i had some fights with philip and other hunters but our friend here dont mention the whole situation and the way we actually fight together.

I mention that mostly because he told me i was a coward etc.

So what philip do on duels:

1)always used his speed to get away at 30% of his hp

2)Most of the times we were fighting near mid outpost and he used his bb to get healed on the fight. I think that explains and my engage and fall back to ck.

3)Cooperating even with some hibs to get me and other albs killed.

4)And ofc last but not least the adding adding adding that he did.

If i remember correct i think only one time he killed me on a real 1vs1 but ofc i didnt run away like he did all the time.

I caped from rr1 to rr3 in 5-6 days. If i played like chicken who really thinks taht i would have done it in so short time.


Bowdealer.
 

Lothandar

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RS|Phil said:
OT - I heard some people are doing spear spec hunters with low level bow, and high level BC+spear - Any thoguhts on that?

No idea if this has been answered, I had my hunter with 21+5 spear in thid and I killed almost every stealther I fought, this was when mids had 3 str relics though, so now I wouldn't advise you to spec too high in spear for bgs as infiltrators will send you home, hard :p.
 

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um, sureshot is an active ability which, when activated, allows u to shoot at normal speed and normal range, but for half the damage, without getting interrupted from ranged attacks....unless it was changed in 1.70 and i missed it in the patchnotes ofc.
 

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