scout template 1st draft (if anyone cares :moo:)

[Edaemos]

what the fuck do you know about melee fights against high ranks SBS and NS.
clueless fotm

Not everyone read the US boards when DAOC US was released and then when it was released here rolled an archer which was godmode and got high RR during the god mode time

I see your still trying to prove to others you r0x on a game forum

 

[Aussie]

VN forums were unknown in EU and I was only r6 when nerf his EU.

ktnxbye! next.

 

[Edaemos]

VN forums were unknown in EU and I was only r6 when nerf his EU.

ktnxbye! next.

Oh so no-one ever read any US forums about classes before it was released here..........lol

Oh you only got the hardest part of being a scout out the way when they were godmode then come here and whine at others being FoTM and low rr, lol.

After SH you ran in GoL groups with outlaw and zoyster when all guilds on excal didnt run optimized setups ie Eleas and Ozrique running in LA groups etc, when groups started running optimized groups i remember a comment you made on BW about you quit your scout for a true "group character"

I find your whining and bitching at others so amusing, not like you had a hard time getting high rr during godmode and non-optimized groups.

Your a true comedian Aussie

 

[Aussie]

damn you, you figured out how i got 6,6mil. how did I get the 210k this week btw? I'm sure you got an explanation for that too

 

[Iskander]

Pro? thats a Con if its not 26. Btw 94 - 75 is not +20.

I would say having 19 dex over the "normal" cap is a pro yes. and let's just say the 20 was a rounding error

You mean Con right? missing 6% thrust and 10% slash... i'm sure you're gonna like those Crit shots and PAs.

I am sure such a highly regarded (oops, almost wrote retarded) scout as you knows that we always should run around with s/s out, and only draw a bow to shoot something. With s/s all melee resists are capped, except -1 slash. If you take into account the racial resists it's all nicely over the cap

loosing 18 dex to gain 13 str, nice tradeoff

that 13 str can be changed into 13 dex, would your majesty be pleased then?

and so on and on and on.

I admit it has a few minor flaws, but
1. it is affordable
2. it beats an imaginary template no one will ever see

 

[Nerve]

damn you, you figured out how i got 6,6mil. how did I get the 210k this week btw? I'm sure you got an explanation for that too

Thanx to the RR6 you got when playing in 'I WIN' mode.

 

[eggy]

damn you, you figured out how i got 6,6mil. how did I get the 210k this week btw? I'm sure you got an explanation for that too

A few serious questions:

1) How old are you?
2) Do your parents charge you rent?
3) Do you pivot a leg on your toes, then vibrate it up and down while laughing and slapping your hand in a violent motion against the desk?

 

[Edaemos]

damn you, you figured out how i got 6,6mil. how did I get the 210k this week btw? I'm sure you got an explanation for that too

Did i comment on how you got to 6.6 mill? nope or about how you got 210k this week? nope, i said how you got high RR, rr6+, you got rr6+ during godmode and you ran with gol groups till rr9, i'd call that high RR, no? so i was perfectly right with what im saying, of course you will do well now, Toa'd out and rr10.

How about you whine less at lower RR people since you didnt exactly earn your low RR considering yours were gained during godmode.

 

[Aussie]

and you ran with gol groups till rr9

bwahaha. ye I did 8L3 -> 8L9 in GoL group since Scout dmg was equal to Caster dmg back then. You're so clueless . Other groups were running with Archers also.

 

[StonyPony]

Aussie don't you start asking yourself questions when you come here and no one posts anything positive about you ? If I were you i'd take a GOOD LONG look in the mirror and try to find out why everyone's against you.

 

[Aussie]

because you know you're wrong? xD

 

[Edaemos]

After SH you ran in GoL groups with outlaw and zoyster when all guilds on excal didnt run optimized setups ie Eleas and Ozrique running in LA groups etc, when groups started running optimized groups i remember a comment you made on BW about you quit your scout for a true "group character"

bwahaha. ye I did 8L3 -> 8L9 in GoL group since Scout dmg was equal to Caster dmg back then. You're so clueless . Other groups were running with Archers also.

Think i already covered that point sport, come again, so not only did you gain your rr0>6+ during godmode but then you got to rr8l9 during times when no one ran optimized groups making your rp gain much quicker than that of a scout trying to solo during SH or a low rr scout nowadays facing lots of high rr assasins

Class lol

Instead of acting the FH retard which you do so well, why don't you help the lower RR scouts if they ask for it instead of dismissing evrything thing they do as crap.

I mean you come here bragging about your template, that exactly wasn't hard to make, then you act the l33+ d00d mocking the lower RR scouts when you gained yours during god mode times, funny to say the least.

 

[Aussie]

And what exactly is wrong with grouping scouts?
If you haven't realised yet, an assisting scout with Bodygaurd on caster and high dmg output r0x in debuffgroups.
btw find me 1 decent scout that disagrees with anything i've said.

 

[Aussie]

and lol at all the jealousy xD

 

[Kinad]

Lets say you face a good enemy caster with 1400 hp.

Slow bow : 800 + 400 + 400 = dead caster, 200 hp overcap.
Fast bow : 700 + 350 + 350 = dead caster, 0 hp overcap.

In this example the fast bow has a huge dps advantage compaired to slow bow.

Now lets say caster has 1450 hp

Slow bow : 800 + 400 + 400 = dead caster, 150 hp overcap.
Fast bow : 700 + 350 + 350 + 350 = dead caster, 300 hp overcap.

In this example the slow bow has a huge dps advantage compaired to fast bow, in fact the fast bow needs another shot.

This is without using rf, but the 2 expamples shows its close to imposibel to
say which bow speed is best, because it depends on enemy targets.

 

[Edaemos]

And what exactly is wrong with grouping scouts?
If you haven't realised yet, an assisting scout with Bodygaurd on caster and high dmg output r0x in debuffgroups.
btw find me 1 decent scout that disagrees with anything i've said.

They had bodyguard pre camo? oh my bad.......

As for the stuff you say, i agree with you on 99.9% of stuff when it comes to templates/resists/bows etc but its how you put it across, you do it in such a patronising way trying to make yourself look better for some reason or another, there are scouts who could learn alot from you but instead you just mock/whine/dismiss them instead of being helpful. But it seems you think acting the prat on FH is l33+ ie posting a whine on my ml10 raid etc.

 

[Kinad]

They had bodyguard pre camo? oh my bad.......

As for the stuff you say, i agree with you on 99.9% of stuff when it comes to templates/resists/bows etc but its how you put it across, you do it in such a patronising way trying to make yourself look better for some reason or another, there are scouts who could learn alot from you but instead you just mock/whine/dismiss them instead of being helpful. But it seems you think acting the prat on FH is l33+ ie posting a whine on my ml10 raid etc.

Aussies template is oldfashioned, not using any of the new flexible ideas.
Its decent, but not more than that considering the expensive items needed in it.

 

[Edaemos]

Aussies template is oldfashioned, not using any of the new flexible ideas.
Its decent, but not more than that considering the expensive items needed in it.

At first i didn't like it but when i looked more i liked it more tbh, i think its a decent template, not the best ever but there isn't a best ever it totally depends on your gameplay.

Thing is i do think 9% bow speed and capped dex is a must, his template and my own has that, i see bow speed like cast speed on a caster, not many casters about with 4% cast speed.

 

[Aussie]

ie posting a whine on my ml10 raid etc.

a whine? because i called you a vosleader?
fyi to locations you post in the ML10 thread are all locations of artifacts and ML steps. C/P the locations from VOS is completly retarded. Infact the portal can spawn at any non dungeon ML step or Artifact. for something thats like know for 5+ months on VN you dissapoint me

vosleader.

 

[Kinad]

At first i didn't like it but when i looked more i liked it more tbh, i think its a decent template, not the best ever but there isn't a best ever it totally depends on your gameplay.

Thing is i do think 9% bow speed and capped dex is a must, his template and my own has that, i see bow speed like cast speed on a caster, not many casters about with 4% cast speed.

Your very wrong.

A good template does not only include items, its also include spec, ra's, rr's
and ml's. To be precise, it includes a strategy.

 

[Matmardigan]

just my point of view.

learning by doing. Best way 2 get an ok'ish hi rr char.

If any1 would try 2 tell me dont do that and make that like i told u, i just would rude him.

Best way 2 get experience is playin and trying, if u see anything dont work well then change it and try something else, with time ull know whats workin and whats not.

 

[Edaemos]

a whine? because i called you a vosleader?
fyi to locations you post in the ML10 thread are all locations of artifacts and ML steps. C/P the locations from VOS is completly retarded. Infact the portal can spawn at any non dungeon ML step or Artifact. for something thats like know for 5+ months on VN you dissapoint me

vosleader.

Not lead any ml10 raids, in fact i came back about 2 months into ToA, i of course i refer to VoS, its very useful, i take it from your comment you have never ever referred to VoS and the fact you know about the fact the portal can spawn at any non dungeon ML step or arti is from your personal findings and nothing anyone or VoS has told you

For someone who at rr9 on his scout and almost rr7 on his sorc made a post on BW about just finding out group purge had no immunity timer at the time (dunno if this was changed since) you sure do try to come across as the all knowledgable one.

 

[Edaemos]

Your very wrong.

A good template does not only include items, its also include spec, ra's, rr's
and ml's. To be precise, it includes a strategy.

Im not very wrong, i took all them into acocunt when doing my template, and ill change it for NF, but i assume people do those things you say when they make template anyhows, would be kinda silly not too.

 

[Aussie]

the fact the portal can spawn at any non dungeon ML step or arti is from your personal findings and nothing anyone or VoS has told you

so how come you don't know it then if you say I got that info from VOS?

For someone who at rr9 on his scout and almost rr7 on his sorc made a post on BW about just finding out group purge had no immunity timer at the time (dunno if this was changed since) you sure do try to come across as the all knowledgable one

GP was only bugged for 1-2 patches fyi and already been fixed xD

 

[Gethin]

A good template does not only include items, its also include spec, ra's, rr's
and ml's. To be precise, it includes a strategy.

I couldn't agree with this more.

 

[Kinad]

just my point of view.

learning by doing. Best way 2 get an ok'ish hi rr char.

If any1 would try 2 tell me dont do that and make that like i told u, i just would rude him.

Best way 2 get experience is playin and trying, if u see anything dont work well then change it and try something else, with time ull know whats workin and whats not.

Math your my old friend, and i remeber leveling my theur with you, but that
being said this is pure foolishness.

I think i lost 3 times in the last several months to solo assasins, 2 times to Eeny and 1 time to Hroft. If i where toa'ed i doubt any of them could beat me.
Slam/FZ combined with purge/ip/endurance makes it very very hard for an enemy assasin to beat a scout. Also you can do backspin and strafespin with FZ altho not quite as reliabel, which might be an option for scouts who dont want to spec for slam. No reason to try it out, its tested an working well.

Noone is so good he dont need to learn from others.

 

[Aussie]

so that means if you get AoM3 on your scout you can afford to fuckup some resists? heh.

 

[Edaemos]

so how come you don't know it then if you say I got that info from VOS?

I said from another person or VoS, if you didnt get it form VoS then you got it from another person or you gonna actually try and tell me you figured this out?, so basically you got advice on how to do it much like i get advice from VoS, you could have posted this on my ml10 thread but instead tried to make the usual one line comment.

If you know something you find out then ok no probs but when you get it from someone else and act cocky about it, just makes you look stupid.

GP was only bugged for 1-2 patches fyi and already been fixed xD

So for about 2-6 months then depending on how the patches fell, you didn't know this? oh well guess you don't know it all.

 

[Aussie]

damn kinad found out how to FZ without slam

 

[Raven]

so that means if you get AoM3 on your scout you can afford to fuckup some resists? heh.

aom was changed in a patch a while back thats why it is in brackets next to your base resist. Your matter and spirit resists on your temp are fucked anyway.