scout template 1st draft (if anyone cares :moo:)

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Edaemos

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Built my template around the bullhorn, probably change when NF comes to braggarts or sun bow, probably braggarts for the extra range.

Edit: Although apparently bows lose con/durability fast in NF so a arti bow would probably be a bad choice.

Will have to adjust template slightly to whatever i do but shouldn't be too hard.
 

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Aussie said:
nobody makes a template arround the Bullhorn coz 99% of the scouts are retards like those replying here xD

and 1% of scouts are right , because? ermmm you say so ? lol

most the scout templates ive seen on VN and Critshot they have Imolated in there template.

if you actually looked at it from others point of view.. we not all have same playstyle/ideals from a scout perspective as you... if somebody prefers imolated then so be it. if sum1 prefers faster bow. then so be it. if somebody uses a bow that no1 else seems to use then thats there choice.

but i personally think the ONLY retard in this thread is you .. because you think bullhorn is the only scout bow to use? lol get real, take your head from up your ass and see the bigger picture. just because you prefer bullhorn doesnt mean everybody is wrong u pratt :)
 

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Jpeg[LOD] said:
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but i personally think the ONLY retard in this thread is you .. because you think bullhorn is the only scout bow to use? lol get real, take your head from up your ass and see the bigger picture. just because you prefer bullhorn doesnt mean everybody is wrong u pratt :)


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Aussie said:
nobody makes a template arround the Bullhorn coz 99% of the scouts are retards like those replying here xD

just saw this, does that make you one? :// since you replied :p
 

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Aussie said:
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Config Report [b]without Bow or S/S - Included racial resists.[/b] 

Stats

    Str:    39    Int:    0    Hits:    208
    Con:    77    Pie:    0    Power:    0
    Dex:    72    Cha:    0
    Qui:    77    Emp:    0

Resists

    Body:    26    Energy:    26    Crush:    28 (+3 from GSV = 31)
    Cold:    26    Matter:    19    Thrust:    26 (+3 from GSV = 29)
    Heat:    26    Spirit:    22    Slash:    29 (+3 from GSV = 32)

Skills

2 Thrust
11 Longbow
11 Stealth
2 Slash

Focus

Cap Increases

17 Dex
7 Qui

Other Bonuses

4 Archery Damage Bonus
7 Archery Range Bonus
10 AF Bonus
5 Melee Speed Bonus
7 Archery Speed Bonus

Ranged
Name: Bullhorn Bow - 5.6spd
Level: 51 Quality: 100
DPS: 16.5 Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 30 Dexterity
Effect 2: 12 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 3: 2 Archery Speed Bonus
Utility: 20.0


Cap Str/Dex/Slash with S/S out . Both Matter & Spirit 22%
Missing 2 Shield but i guess 60shield & 380dex is enough :m00: .

2100 ws for a briton scout :cheers:


sorry but thats utter wank, go back to VN and search for a new one
 

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Raven said:
sorry but thats utter wank, go back to VN and search for a new one
what would you know about scout templates my dear retarded friend.
 

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Making a template is not just about putting some items into a calculator,
its also a matter of strategy and playstyle.

Sofar i think what has been showed here is oldfashion templates, not using
the new power of scouts. Its just mindless templates.
 

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Raven said:
more than you clearly
thats why the stats on the bow are wrong? :m00:
and 5 bowspeed sux balls. just fyi xD
you even use zahur ring for that worthless template
 

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tbh, crap template aussie :< but due your superior skills you dont need decent templates right? :(
 

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Aussie said:
thats why the stats on the bow are wrong? :m00:
in what way? (except it should be 5 to quick cap rather than 6) the quick cap being useless anyway, the bow is there for the + range/damage, the only way you are going to get close to cap w/o it is to wait for 1.70 for either Gem of lost memories or Sun belt summoned bow.
 

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my template has 11 bow, yours 10
my template has 26 dex, yours 25
my template has better reists
my template has 9 speed, yours 5
my bow shoots harder then yours
my bow has a better proc


yw, come again.
 

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if you actually look at it the resists are capped with s/s the only ones lacking with bow out are the less important ones, 1 dex means fuck all, 1 bow skill means very little. 5% bow spd doesnt really make a lot of difference either. oh and where is your + shield skill, mine has +11.

and mine wont cost 100 plat, you were robbed
 

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Lets say a scout meet a decent ns, you slam him, then he purge getting ready to press ap and whoop your arse. What now ?

To solve that question is worth more than 10 xtra damage on bow.
 

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Raven said:
in what way? (except it should be 5 to quick cap rather than 6) the quick cap being useless anyway, the bow is there for the + range/damage, the only way you are going to get close to cap w/o it is to wait for 1.70 for either Gem of lost memories or Sun belt summoned bow.

VoS stats are wrong, the real stats are 2% speed, 3% dmg and 5% range, just for information..

Aussie said:
my template has 11 bow, yours 10
my template has 26 dex, yours 25
my template has better reists
my template has 9 speed, yours 5
my bow shoots harder then yours
my bow has a better proc


yw, come again.

The slash proc isn't THAT good, 5% delve against buffed melee resist, 2.5% debuff against normal melee resists atleast that's how it says it work according to delve when you're hit by it. Should test it properly some day.

Raven said:
if you actually look at it the resists are capped with s/s the only ones lacking with bow out are the less important ones, 1 dex means fuck all, 1 bow skill means very little. 5% bow spd doesnt really make a lot of difference either. oh and where is your + shield skill, mine has +11.

and mine wont cost 100 plat, you were robbed

Assume 3sec drawtime, with 5% speed you will draw at 2.85, with 10% speed you'll draw at 2.7. It's not that much but it's not so insignificant that you don't want to get as close to 10% as possible.

Kinad said:
Lets say a scout meet a decent ns, you slam him, then he purge getting ready to press ap and whoop your arse. What now ?

To solve that question is worth more than 10 xtra damage on bow.

This is the point where you FZ him. :p
 

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Pretty hard to FZ a ns whos not stunned anymore and in melee, so ofc assuiming he was fast enough on purge not to be FZ'ed.
 

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who cares about your resists when you have S/S out.

you're getting mezzing with bow out
you're getting stunned with bow out
you die with bow out.
 

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Kinad said:
Pretty hard to FZ a ns whos not stunned anymore and in melee, so ofc assuiming he was fast enough on purge not to be FZ'ed.
actually you dont even need to slam to land zephyr :m00:
just need to know how :m00:
 

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to find the answer i guess you need to go to VN and search for
'Aussie' and 'How to use Zephyr ' :m00:
 

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Aussie said:
to find the answer i guess you need to go to VN and search for
'Aussie' and 'How to use Zephyr ' :m00:

u dont need fz. u just get your duo partner to slam/fz/pa/stun him for you :)
depending on which high rr stealther your duo with :)
 

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Aussie said:
actually you dont even need to slam to land zephyr :m00:
just need to know how :m00:

I dont need to spec bow too and i could run naked in emain, but it not as reliabel is it ?
 

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Aussie said:
my template has 11 bow, yours 10
my template has 26 dex, yours 25
my template has better reists
my template has 9 speed, yours 5
my bow shoots harder then yours
my bow has a better proc


yw, come again.

My dad could beat up your dad
My house is bigger than your house
My model Lego plane has more wings than yours
 

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eggy said:
My dad could beat up your dad
My house is bigger than your house
My model Lego plane has more wings than yours

awww couldn't find anything else ? Infact of just admitting mine is better xD
anyway if I was you I'd follow the advice of an r3 scout who can't make 10k a weeek, goes 50 slash, plays with a 5.1spd (lolirl) bow, wants +25str cap , wants +25 con cap and +200 hits cap in his template :m00:
oh ye and he melee's high ranks SBs and NS too :rolleyes:
 

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Aussie said:
awww couldn't find anything else ? Infact of just admitting mine is better xD
anyway if I was you I'd follow the advice of an r3 scout who can't make 10k a weeek, goes 50 slash, plays with a 5.1spd (lolirl) bow, wants +25str cap , wants +25 con cap and +200 hits cap in his template :m00:
oh ye and he melee's high ranks SBs and NS too :rolleyes:

Eh?

I'm not taking the advice of anyone, I'm not even TOAing my scout, I'm just a spectator, just finding your sheer arrogance and "l33tness" amusing while I'm working.
 

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Aussie said:
awww couldn't find anything else ? Infact of just admitting mine is better xD
anyway if I was you I'd follow the advice of an r3 scout who can't make 10k a weeek, goes 50 slash, plays with a 5.1spd (lolirl) bow, wants +25str cap , wants +25 con cap and +200 hits cap in his template :m00:
oh ye and he melee's high ranks SBs and NS too :rolleyes:

You are to funneh. I never claimed i could meelee high RR SB/NS , i said you should be able to do so if you spec for it as you are RR10... you only have +75 in all stats xcept dex, you could easily improve that if you'd twist around some items...
Oh and about that 10 K , i played my scout in rvr only pre toa, i made 60 k in one week(starting from RR1L0) then i kept getting asked to log on my spirit cabby so i stopped playing my scout.

To eggy : Well said :)
 

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Here is the template I have been working on :
The template has been build around the Fools bow and Duskwood Immolated.

Bow: Duskwood Immolated
Stats Effective Cap
STR 33 75
CON 72 75
DEX 94 96
QUI 63 81
HP 232 240
CR% 26 26
TR% 20 26
SR% 16 26
HEA 25 26
COL 26 26
MAT 20 26
ENE 20 26
BOD 26 26
SPR 21 26
LB 11 11
STE 11 11
SHI 3 11
THR 4 11

Bow: Fool's Bow (10)
Stats Effective Cap
STR 33 75
CON 72 75
DEX 94 96
QUI 63 81
HP 232 240
CR% 26 26
TR% 20 26
SR% 16 26
HEA 25 26
COL 26 26
MAT 20 26
ENE 20 26
BOD 26 26
SPR 21 26
LB 11 11
STE 8 11
SHI 3 11
THR 4 11

Sword:MP player made
Shield:Arcanium Enchanted Runed Defender

Stats Effective Cap
STR 46 75
CON 72 75
DEX 76 96
QUI 58 81
HP 232 240
CR% 26 26
TR% 26 26
SR% 25 26
HEA 25 26
COL 26 26
MAT 20 26
ENE 20 26
BOD 26 26
SPR 21 26
LB 8 11
STE 11 11
SHI 7 11
THR 10 11


Pro :
Stealth maxed (edit: seem to be missing some with fools bow, but as you always should run around with s/s out, and only draw a bow to shoot something it isn't that big a deal)
Longbow maxed for both Immolated and fools bow
+20 over dex cap
With buffs the Qui cap of 250 will be reached
Most important resists are capped or nearly capped
Con nearly maxed and +232 hits
Not loosing HP when swapping between weapons
Con:
Only +7 shield
With S/S out still missing 6% matter 6% energy and 5% spirit resists.
With bow out missing an additional 6% thrust and 10% slash resists
Str had been neglected
Loosing about 18 dex when swapping from bow to s/s ( but gaining some str)
Crush resist has been overcapped by 8 (damn melee resists on arti's)

Bonus : Both bows will have 10% Range, Immolated will have 6% extra damage and 5% extra speed while Fools bow will have 9% extra damage and 8% extra speed.
(Gem of Lost memories taken into account)

if you want more info I'll gladly post the items I used to get the template.
 

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what the fuck do you know about melee fights against high ranks SBS and NS.
clueless fotm
 

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Iskander said:
Pro :
+20 over dex cap
Pro? thats a Con if its not 26. Btw 94 - 75 is not +20.
Iskander said:
Pro :
Most important resists are capped or nearly capped
You mean Con right? missing 6% thrust and 10% slash... i'm sure you're gonna like those Crit shots and PAs.
Iskander said:
Con :
Loosing about 18 dex when swapping from bow to s/s ( but gaining some str)
loosing 18 dex to gain 13 str, nice tradeoff :rolleyes:


and so on and on and on.
 
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