scout template 1st draft (if anyone cares :moo:)

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Aussie said:
why would I give away my template where i worked hours for?


4 THE SAKE OF ARFURRRRRRRRRRRRR AND THE REALM!!

is it such a bad thing to help your realm mates ,, if somebody who doesnt know as much about the game as myself and they asked advice etc etc if i knew better id give it them . if i wasnt able to answer the question i'd tell them to message sum1 with better knowledge. but helping your realm to make your realm stronger is a good thing . not a bad one,
 

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ok aussie what can i say then HAHAHAHAHAAHA . you call that a template worthy for a RR10 scout?

----------------------------------------------Config Report without Bow or S/S - Included racial resists.

Stats

Str: 39 Int: 0 Hits: 208
Con: 77 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 72 Cha: 0
Qui: 77 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 26 Energy: 26 Crush: 28 (+3 from GSV = 31)
Cold: 26 Matter: 19 Thrust: 26 (+3 from GSV = 29)
Heat: 26 Spirit: 22 Slash: 29 (+3 from GSV = 32)

Skills

2 Thrust
11 Longbow
11 Stealth
2 Slash

Focus

Cap Increases

17 Dex
7 Qui

Other Bonuses

4 Archery Damage Bonus
7 Archery Range Bonus
10 AF Bonus
5 Melee Speed Bonus
7 Archery Speed Bonus

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Dunno what sword/shield you use, but i guess you reach about 75 stre as you only have 39 there? where is the other +25 stre? and no con cap increase? doh doh doh.?another big loss again there.......... 200 hp? could go much higher. I seen your vault screenshot. with those items you should nearly cap everything. The template you showed there can be done with toa quests items.

oh and another : "the only good scout template is mine." People that claim such a things are born to fail. You are never old enough to learn. Claiming this is just pathetic.

All the others in this post try to help Kurik and all you can do is flame him, but yet your own template sux arse , according to the stats you showed there.

I might be only RR3(and no this scout is 10 months old, so no NF fotm) but imo you are RR10 unworthy. You are supposed to be an example for all lower RR scouts.

edited : i saw you do cap your dex.
 

Freppe

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Aussie's template rox rly, sure there is alot of resists I wouldnt get. But who knows, might be good in a cple of months when NF arrives.

And stonypony, haha, useless.
 

StonyPony

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yeah it sure will rox. 39 stre no Stre cap. so that leaves S/S to cap those gaps. +25 stre cap and +61 stre on 2 items? i don't think so.

and there are other things that he could up a lil , as konah said : hp = omni resists.

Imo that template is half done.

Btw Useless in what way? You actually support Aussie thinking he's all this and that?
 

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StonyPony said:
Dunno what sword/shield you use, but i guess you reach about 75 stre as you only have 39 there? where is the other +25 stre? and no con cap increase? doh doh doh.?another big loss again there.......... 200 hp? could go much higher. I seen your vault screenshot. with those items you should nearly cap everything. The template you showed there can be done with toa quests items.

If you want 25 con cap, and 200 hp cap how would you fit in any archery bonuses? It's an archer you know, not a tank.

Aussie's template isn't perfect, and I'd stash more archery bonuses in it since he's already using gsv etc, but the template isn't bad. 200 hp is omni resists yes, and it might be worth it on small hits where the resists don't come into their right. But against medium to high dmg done towards you, resists > 200 hp cap. As in a LW weapon PA etc.. And spirit/matter lw are coming into play as more people tend to ignore them in templates.

And no, it's not easy to get a good template for a scout since there's so few good items with good TOA archery boni. In this patch it's even impossible to get higher than 7% dmg. In NF it's not possible to get higher than 9% at any given time.
 

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don't forget the +25 str cap tranquil. evul melee scouts these days :/
 

eggy

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Freppe said:
HAHAHAHA. Eggy why say smth that you do yourself. On a thread a while back about cleric templates, they asked you what items you had in it and you didnt wanna show it and didnt. Weird, shouldnt rly talk about other ppl doing it while yourself is doing the exact same thing.

Even tho It mebbe wasnt intentional you did it: https://forums.freddyshouse.com/showthread.php?t=18313&page=2&pp=15&highlight=cleric+template

Judas even asked about which items you had but no reply! Kinda sums it up rly!

Urm, I posted the stats to avoid the massive spam of shit that comes, especially if people weren't interested. Always post my full templates, as I did for every one of my 8 SI SC templates. Said I'd post my stats in a post yesterday fyi.

Didn't even see the Judas post, but to answer now:

Healers Embrace
Guard of Valor
Egg of Youth
Scorpion Tail Ring
Band of Stars
Ceremonial Bracer
Nimbus Strand
Malamis Belt (cant remember which one, has +7 dex cap iirc)
Arcanium Leggings of Fortification
Helm of Rebirth

Rest of the items are crafted, so tbh you can probably put together the template easily yourself!
 

eggy

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Konah said:
i feel same way, guess i'm 1337 ^^

rly, ppl too dumb or too lazy to spend the time doing a decent template DESERVE to have a shit template. simple as that :m00:

It's always nice to have a look at other templates to aid you in your own. If I hadn't seen Judas' (I think) template for example, I wouldn't have known about the ML10 leggings that fitted perfectly to my cleric temp.

I guess I just like helping people.
 

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well unlike caster items. scouts don't have those 4%-5% bonus items. pretty much every bonus for a scout is 2%-3% max. With both artifact bows being a piece of junk it gets even harder. Except for Tahn & Raguel there is nobody i know that comes close to a decent scout template. (that means have the items for it).
 

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Why do you say pro dokus? I know i'm not a pro. I know i still have to learn much as a scout. I never did and never will claim I know everything(unlike you). But 1 thing i do know : If there is 1 retard on these forums , IT'S YOU AUSSIE.

Konah : "rly, ppl too dumb or too lazy to spend the time doing a decent template DESERVE to have a shit template. simple as that "
Kurik asked for help, every start is hard. Instead of flaming him he should be given help. And don't call people dumb or lazy. Maybe he just hasn't got that much time like others to sit in front of a pc 10 hours in a row to make a perfectly tuned template.

Aussie : "don't forget the +25 str cap tranquil. evul melee scouts these days :/"
Dunno what you do as a scout then, when i go out 2/3 of what i meet are SB/NS/Hunter/Ranger and pre-NF you won't get to use your bow much against SB/NS unless you leech. Someone told me you got high RR on your scout in the days before SH and also from running with outlaw/zoyster. At first i didn't believe it, but now i start to believe it more and more. Scouts can do decent dmg in meelee and win from high RR SB/NS, it's just a matter of having the right spec. Again, i don't claim to know everything but i seen enough so far to know that if you spec meelee, you will be able to outmeelee SB/NS sometimes.

"well unlike caster items. scouts don't have those 4%-5% bonus items. pretty much every bonus for a scout is 2%-3% max. With both artifact bows being a piece of junk it gets even harder. Except for Tahn & Raguel there is nobody i know that comes close to a decent scout template. (that means have the items for it)."
Well i know people with Shitloads of Gold and very many good scout items. It's not because you don't know those people that they don't exist.

gib more clevur replies from pro dokus
I was studying :( so i can't reply eveyr hour.



Try to put your ego aside for once and realise that you aren't better then anyone of us.
 

Kurik

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:<<<<<<<<<< any suggestions for other items i could use instead? that are not _so_ hard to get etc.
 

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aye pro r3 dokus with his non existing scout template :worthy:

need more bigmouths here claiming they have anything better :m00:
 

StonyPony

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Freppe said:
You have seriously no clue. Dont fckn talk about stuff you dont know tbh, if you'd actually played sum and left barrows for a mom these 2 last years, you'd know a thing or few which you rly dont. Welcome to Daoc m8.

I play since european beta. i had about 6 lvl 50's. i deleted checked out other servers/realms . took a half year break. playing again since may 03. not exact new to daoc...

Edit : And freppe, stop licking Aussie's Ass.
 

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I forgto to mention this :

aye pro r3 dokus with his non existing scout template

HAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAA It's the only thing you can say eh, Rollie show him last night's chat log. Aussie you are so predictable. Last night we placed bets on how long it would take before you mentioned that my scout is RR3, guess rollie won tho :(
 

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[21:24:13] @@You send, "how much we betting that he tries to belittle you with a comment on his Rr compared to yours lol" to Stonypony
[21:24:31] @@Stonypony sends, "hehe very high chance he will"
[21:24:36] @@You send, "heheh aye" to Stonypony

All to predictable, after 2 years or so you still need to rub your ego on a computer game forum Aussie :m00:

God knows why, its only a computer game.

btw freppe mate that cheerleaders outfit with "Aussie" wrote on the pom poms is a bit too small for you, your hairy chest is showing :(
 

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StonyPony said:
HAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAA It's the only thing you can say eh, Rollie show him last night's chat log. Aussie you are so predictable. Last night we placed bets on how long it would take before you mentioned that my scout is RR3, guess rollie won tho :(

wow :eek:

aussie u should grp with them they will learn u how to play :(
 

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Ok, i'll post what i have so far. I know it's not perfect, then again i never claimed it was. It's the best i can do with the items i have. Feel free to give POSITIVE remarks. I'm still working on it :)

My spec is 50 slash 45 lb 35 stealth 8 shield. Why no 42 shield? Dual wielders kinda ignore the shield anyway so no point in taking that up. 8 shield gives me engage which is enough to block arrows. I tried to get a maximum dmg output that's why i chose 50 slash. 45 lb , 50 lb ain't worth those points to get a lil higher cap on bowdmg and 100% pbt penetration. i rather do a bit meelee dmg then also coz 80 with amy isn't gonna get me anywhere.

edited : I know that if i swap between bow / s/s i would lose about 100 hp. Thing is i won't get to swap coz i don't have slam. Running around with my s/s out so ihave those extra's from malice.

Some resists are only low 20, but in NF AoM 2 will get those up a bit for only 4 RA points. Meelee resists are decent with GSV : 25 crush and 31 thrust/slash.

-Winged helm is in there for the speed.
-I only needed 52 quick to hit 250 , so that's enough :)
-Stealth is overcapped, but canno't lower it in any way :(

S/S equiped :

Config Report

Stats

Str: 89 Int: 0 Hits: 240
Con: 80 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 80 Cha: 0
Qui: 56 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 22 Energy: 22 Crush: 22
Cold: 25 Matter: 20 Thrust: 28 (3)
Heat: 26 (5) Spirit: 22 Slash: 29 (2)

Skills

2 Thrust
6 Longbow
14 Stealth
11 Slash


Cap Increases

15 Dex
7 Qui
40 Hits
13 Str
5 Con

Other Bonuses

5 Style Damage Bonus
7 Melee Speed Bonus
4 Archery Damage Bonus
3 Archery Speed Bonus
7 Archery Range Bonus
20 AF Bonus
5 Fatigue

Bow Equipped

Config Report

Stats

Str: 58 Int: 0 Hits: 240
Con: 65 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 92 Cha: 0
Qui: 56 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 22 Energy: 22 Crush: 22
Cold: 25 Matter: 20 Thrust: 19 (3)
Heat: 26 (5) Spirit: 22 Slash: 24 (2)

Skills

2 Thrust
11 Longbow
14 Stealth
6 Slash

Cap Increases

21 Dex
7 Qui
8 Str

Other Bonuses

7 Melee Speed Bonus
4 Archery Damage Bonus
5 Archery Speed Bonus
7 Archery Range Bonus
20 AF Bonus
5 Fatigue

Piece listing
Chest
Name: Golden Scarab Vest
Level: 51 Quality: 94
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 2: 6 Thrust Resist
Effect 3: 6 Crush Resist
Effect 4: 15 Dexterity
Effect 5: 4 Archery Range Bonus
Effect 6: 4 Archery Damage Bonus
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 46.00

Arms
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 25 Constitution - 99 flawless Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 7 Spirit Resist - 99 imperfect Vapor Shielding
Gem 3: 19 Strength - 99 faceted Fiery Essence
Gem 4: 9 Energy Resist - 99 polished Light Shielding
Utility: 61.33

Head
Name: Winged Helm
Level: 51 Quality: 94
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 5 Fatigue
Effect 3: 15 Dexterity
Effect 4: 15 Strength
Effect 5: 5 Spirit Resist
Effect 6: 5 Matter Resist
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 50.00

Legs
Imbue Points: 36.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 58%
Gem 1: 3 Longbow - 99 rough Airy War Sigil
Gem 2: 9 Cold Resist - 99 polished Icy Shielding
Gem 3: 9 Energy Resist - 99 polished Light Shielding
Gem 4: 4 Slash - 99 flawed Watery War Sigil
Utility: 71.00

Hands
Name: Mariasha's Sharkskin Gloves
Level: 51 Quality: 94
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 3 Longbow
Effect 2: 3 Archery Speed Bonus
Effect 3: 4 Slash Resist
Effect 4: 4 Crush Resist
Effect 5: 4 Thrust Resist
Effect 6: 3 Archery Range Bonus
Effect 7: 4 Heat Resist
Effect 8: 4 Cold Resist
Effect 9: 4 Energy Resist
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 63.00

Feet
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 25 Quickness - 99 flawless Airy Essence
Gem 2: 16 Constitution - 99 polished Earthen Essence
Gem 3: 76 Hits - 99 perfect Blood Essence
Gem 4: 5 Heat Resist - 99 flawed Heated Shielding
Utility: 56.33

Right Hand
Name: Malice's Axe
Level: 51 Quality: 100
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Strength
Effect 2: 15 Constitution
Effect 3: 40 Hits
Effect 4: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: 5 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 6: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 7: 5 Style Damage Bonus
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 30.00

Left Hand
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 5 Slash - 99 imperfect Watery War Sigil
Gem 2: 5 Slash Resist - 99 flawed Watery Shielding
Gem 3: 9 Thrust Resist - 99 polished Airy Shielding
Gem 4: 16 Strength - 99 polished Fiery Essence
Utility: 63.67

Ranged
Name: duskwood Falcon's Talon
Level: 51 Quality: 94
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 12 Dexterity
Effect 2: 5 Longbow
Effect 3: 40 Hits
Effect 4: 6 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 5: 2 Archery Speed Bonus
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 43.00

Neck
Name: Goddes' Necklace
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 3 Body Resist
Effect 2: 3 Matter Resist
Effect 3: 3 Spirit Resist
Effect 4: 9 Strength
Effect 5: 9 Dexterity
Effect 6: 9 Constitution
Effect 7: 10 AF Bonus
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 36.00

Cloak
Name: Shades of Mist
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 3 Stealth
Effect 2: 15 Quickness
Effect 3: 15 Strength
Effect 4: 10 AF Bonus
Effect 5: 5 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 35.00

Jewel
Name: Harpy Feather Charm
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 44 Hits
Effect 2: 6 Body Resist
Effect 3: 6 Cold Resist
Effect 4: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 5: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 59.00

Belt
Name: Twisted Hair of Malamis
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 12 Dexterity
Effect 2: 4 Stealth
Effect 3: 2 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 4: 8 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: 8 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 28.00

Right Ring
Name: Ring of the Seven Souls (Stealth)
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Constitution
Effect 2: 13 Dexterity
Effect 3: 40 Hits
Effect 4: 6 Crush Resist
Effect 5: 4 Stealth
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 60.67

Left Ring
Name: Band of Shadow
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 7 Body Resist
Effect 2: 7 Spirit Resist
Effect 3: 6 Crush Resist
Effect 4: 6 Thrust Resist
Effect 5: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 64.00

Right Wrist
Name: Ebon Hide Bracer
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Body Resist
Effect 2: 6 Cold Resist
Effect 3: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 4: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 5: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 60.00

Left Wrist
Name: Blackened Wrap
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 16 Dexterity
Effect 2: 16 Quickness
Effect 3: 3 Stealth
Effect 4: 2 All Melee Skill Bonus
Effect 5: 7 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: 7 Quickness Cap Increase
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 46.33

Feel free to comment.
 

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wittor said:
wow :eek:

aussie u should grp with them they will learn u how to play :(


Aussie should learn me how to play. It's he and his ego who claims to know it all.
 

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wittor said:
wow :eek:

aussie u should grp with them they will learn u how to play :(

Haven't really read all the thread since its full of certain people stroking e-penises but if you have a minute can you show me where stony says he can teach Aussie where to play as i missed it while skimming the thread.

Thx in advance.
 

Freppe

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Utter shit template that tbh if u ask me stony, so no reason to whine on aussies since its > urs.

Btw, might wanna get that 65 con higher if u wanna switch to s/s. You loose those hits yes yes when u swap. A basic knowledge while doing templates is not to use CON on weps/shields.
 

StonyPony

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Freppe , read the lines i wrote before posting it . about my spec and why i won't have to change between bow/s/s . instead of flaming, read what i post first.
 

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Flaming? Omg you gotta have smth wrong with ur head mate. I gave you an advice, simple as it. If I wanted to flame ya, I would have done in a whole different way, but ur mind is so focused on just reading flames, cool down abit n dont be so fckn aggressive.
 

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flaming was a bit misplaced ok. Normally i take everything from the light side. but i try to speak at a lvl aussie understands it.
My apologies there freppe. Should have tought before answering :)

But i do know i would lose the hp. but the times i get to use my bow = stand's off or leechs => no real meelee danger.
I run around with S/S out so i have the 100 hp extra, and as i can't stun/root my meelee opponent, i don't need to swap to bow. So basically it's no problem that i have con/hp on malice .
 

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Nice template that Stony for the spec you have. Aussie's is also quite good, but its far from what I would say is *the* best ;)

Pretty much impossible to get everything you like in a Scout template - somethings got to give somewhere along the line, i.e. skills, resists, hp, or bonuses.

Best advice I can give is just try and make one that will suit you, and is not a generic Scout template like you could have pre-ToA. Stick in the items which you have already, or are easy enough to obtain, and then try to SC around them. Its hard work, and its taken me a long time, and many attempts, to finally get one I'm happy with, so be patient ;)

As has been mentioned, check out the CritShot forums for all things Scouty - its been a great resource for me over the years. Also, check out the VN Boards as they often post templates in the Class Forums for Albion Rogues here.

Remember, there are no right or wrong templates! If it works for you, thats all that counts ;)
 

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-5.1 spd bow m8? what are you a hunter? xD
- hits and con on switchable items? xD
-19% thrust resists with bow out. means your enemy will shoot against 9% thrust xD
-completly forgetting about +shield spec
-5 archery spd? xD


lmao :m00:
 
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