Scout Spec

[Roalith]

Bear in mind that the 50 shield style brutilise is a block reactionary. And guess what? Blocking rate is halved vs dual wielding opponents. Yep, that's right, your 30% block chance from those 50 spec levels will give you a grand total of 15% blocking chance.

In effect, from the 372 skill points to go from 42 to 50 shield, you're gaining 2% chance to block over someone with 42 shield.

45-50 longbow is debatable too. Used to be 50 longbow spec myself, which gains you the last Penetrating Arrow level. Dropped to 45 spec, lost 50 weaponskill (Total longbow is now 45+11+2=58 vs the previous 63), lost around 20 damage off my critshot cap. And haven't looked back. The main difference between 45-50 bow is the Penetrating Arrow ability. Now, as your shots are blocked by self bladeturns regardless of your spec, and self bladeturns are not overwritten by PBT, and PBT is only seen on Hib groups if at all nowadays... Am sure you can see my point.

29 Thrust, 45 Longbow, 42 Shield, 34 stealth is the single best 'general' spec for a Scout, in my honest opinion. It might be cookie-cutter, but there's a reason it's popular.

 

[hanne]

45 Longbow
35 Stealth
42 Shield
29 Slash

yes Loxleyhood you need a little autotraining, but only 1 line until lvl 20 that will give you enough points
Going 4 the spec meself

 

[Graknak]

But Shield weapon skill is taken from your sword weapon skill, so though damage isn't reduced, you're going to have even more trouble landing that Slam...........

afaik shield weaponskill is based on shield spec + some mod from your dex and not on your sword ws as i can land as much shield styles with 1 wep spec as with 29 wep spec on the same con mobs

 

[Loxleyhood]

Pin is going to kick your ass when he gets here.

 

[Dwali]

My Scout is 34 stealth 20 thrust 50 lb 42 slam and i make it pretty good in emain with only Epic armor and no buffs...took out a RR7 sb that could have screamd and i was dead...but i survived...don´t do much melee dmg but scouts dmg lies in the Bow.

So in my advice if u wanna do dmg or get last penetration go 50 lb!

That´s my opinion!!!!!!

 

[Amuse]

My Scout is 34 stealth 20 thrust 50 lb 42 slam and i make it pretty good in emain with only Epic armor and no buffs...took out a RR7 sb that could have screamd and i was dead...but i survived...don´t do much melee dmg but scouts dmg lies in the Bow.

So in my advice if u wanna do dmg or get last penetration go 50 lb!

That´s my opinion!!!!!!

Finaly some "pro 50 LB" post

 

[Glottis]

Well, you can of course pick other specs than the "normal" 45 longbow, 42 shield, 34 stealth, 29 slash spec that all are promoting.
But why not listen to all those decent or high rr's, who obviously know what they are talking about?
And using a scout in pve is not very clever, arrows cost cash, and pallys are much better at pve than a scout. Or make a necro if you want to be great in pve (and crap in rvr).
Regards, Glottis

 

[Jaem-]

When I was planning on making a scout I had choosen this spec, but never went with a scout, no nerco <cough> pl I could get...

auto bow until 48

stealth: 34
slash: 39
shield: 42
bow: 39

left: 2

 

[Peek]

I have dueled both a scout with the "usual" spec of 42 shield, 50 (or something) in LB, and about 20-30 in melee, and with a scout that had 45 LB, 50 shield, and crap in melee.

The "normal" scout spec is pretty easy to take. Sure he may get his Slam to hit, and do some scary damage with the bow, but when the stun wears off, and I get my DF to hit, he's history. Sometimes he never got to do the Slam, and just died.

The 50 shield scout, on the other hand, was a right pain in my royal behind. At best the score was 50/50. I got whacked so much by that shield , and Brutalize does a lot of damage, apart from the stun.

 

[Blaien]

My spec is 33+17stealth
21+17thrust
50+17bow
42+17shield
I used my last respec to go from 46bow to 50 and drop thrust from 29 to 21 and to be honest in RvR it hasent made much difference, scouts are not a mele class range is the key.

 

[Driwen]

afaik shield weaponskill is based on shield spec + some mod from your dex and not on your sword ws as i can land as much shield styles with 1 wep spec as with 29 wep spec on the same con mobs

shield weaponskill is based on your sword spec and then dex. And pure misses isnt based on weaponskill, evade/parry/block is though.
there has been tests by pin and some person on the US servers (cant be bothered to find the results), but going for low weaponspec will seriously hamper your ability to land slam and any other shieldstyle. I would seriously recommend going 29+ in your weapon so you have atleast a decent shield weaponskill(that is if you want to land shield styles ofc), which you will need to land styles on assassins.

Going high bow isnt worth it, most people who you will run into wont have PBT as those are only in groups and you wont be facing them to much (atleast i would think so). Now 45->50 lbow wont give you much increased damage and you need the weaponskill on your weapon alot more than on your bow.

 

[Dwali]

shield weaponskill is based on your sword spec and then dex. And pure misses isnt based on weaponskill, evade/parry/block is though.
there has been tests by pin and some person on the US servers (cant be bothered to find the results), but going for low weaponspec will seriously hamper your ability to land slam and any other shieldstyle. I would seriously recommend going 29+ in your weapon so you have atleast a decent shield weaponskill(that is if you want to land shield styles ofc), which you will need to land styles on assassins.

Going high bow isnt worth it, most people who you will run into wont have PBT as those are only in groups and you wont be facing them to much (atleast i would think so). Now 45->50 lbow wont give you much increased damage and you need the weaponskill on your weapon alot more than on your bow.

Can be true...i was at Amg and saw a bard in gatehouse....i was stealthed with Cammo on and walkt after him...slamd him in the back did 30-40 dmg i think with slam...but it stuck...and then i do about 25 dmg in melle...took out bow first and put 2 arrows in him but his nasty DD took me almost down before 1 minny and 1 Scout came to backup...if i hade seen him on Range and got to use my Bow he wouldent have stand a change if Crit hade landed...last i did dmg to at mmg was 1019 dmg with Crit shot unbuffed...i was pleased then...and Scout is only 2l6 so far but raising slowy

 

[Amuse]

Well, you can of course pick other specs than the "normal" 45 longbow, 42 shield, 34 stealth, 29 slash spec that all are promoting.
But why not listen to all those decent or high rr's, who obviously know what they are talking about?
And using a scout in pve is not very clever, arrows cost cash, and pallys are much better at pve than a scout. Or make a necro if you want to be great in pve (and crap in rvr).
Regards, Glottis

Erm, i thought i said that i was going to use my scout in RvR and cleric in PvE?

And belive me, i have taken all the advice into consideration, but have decided to go for 50 LB, as i will most of the time go in a team with my Mini and Inf friends (RL friends that is) And besides, if im not happy with this spec, there is always respec stones

My friend is lvling a Mini, and im lvling a scout, and another friend already has a lvl 48 inf that he is lvling to 50 these days, and we are going to fight together, not becouse stealth teams pwn most of the other teams, but becouse we are RL friends, and most of us already have a lvl 50 none stealther char, and wants to trye something new.

 

[Greenfingers]

how often do you get the lvl 29 Thrust in on an enemy? First of all, it's a behind style with Bleed of 6 dmg over 25 secs (4-5 'tics' if I remember correct). The lvl 39 Slash style, which I have seen someone wanting to get, is also a behind Style, Slash though. High dmg, High fatigue, High bonus to hit... kind of nice, yeah. But is it worth it? - NO !

tbh, those who has been RvRing just for 2-3 months with a Scout KNOWS that U will NEVER get the behind style in on any stealthers (which is your main enemy).

I got a gimped spec (which Im gonna get out of any day now).

45 LB
32 Stealth
16 Shield
50 Thrust

I never use the 29 Behind style .... I never use the very nice Basi-fang (sidestyle) all I use is Puncture/Lunge and Tranqualize/Wyvernfang. Then I got a low (but usefull) Bleed on the target, and a 26 secs Snare to sprint away and shoot bout 3 shoots before my target reaches me.

Im gonna respec to this :
(keep in mind that my scout is RR 3L5 and prolly not gonna go pass RR5 the next couple of months)
36 Stealth
45 LB
42 Shield
27 Thrust

When I finally hit RR5, Im gonna go the fotm spec:
(and use behind style a bit more )

34 Stealth
45 LB
42 Shield
29 Thrust