SB vs INF/NS

[Libertine]

gotta say some things here

The guy that says that thrust infils need 26str/dex when they get only 13 back rly needs to buy a clue ... str gets debuffed dex doesnt maybe ...?

Maybe i'm referring to the bonus overall given by both in comparison to str when making a template? i wasn't referring to the effect a debuff has......ill sell you a clue at a cheap price if your looking for one because by the above statement you need one.

 

[Vodkafairy]

Maybe i'm referring to the bonus overall given by both in comparison to str when making a template? i wasn't referring to the effect a debuff has......ill sell you a clue at a cheap price if your looking for one because by the above statement you need one.

its harder to get the same ws bonus if you have to max 2 dmg stats, but when debuffed you gain so much more from being thrust than slash it compensates

 

[Libertine]

its harder to get the same ws bonus if you have to max 2 dmg stats, but when debuffed you gain so much more from being thrust than slash it compensates

I know

 

[GrIrcSpammer]

its harder to get the same ws bonus if you have to max 2 dmg stats, but when debuffed you gain so much more from being thrust than slash it compensates

thats what i meant but its hard for some people to understand

 

[Libertine]

thats what i meant but its hard for some people to understand

It's hard for people to understand you when you don't write what you mean maybe?

Apart from you clearly not reading what i initially wrote correctly, i agree with your post completely. The Sb's that put the effort into preperation are extremely hard, the others who run about with gimped templates, no spec-af, no haste and hitting hib leather with slash weapons instead of LGM deserve to get spanked

 

[GrIrcSpammer]

It's hard for people to understand you when you don't write what you mean maybe?

thats because its common sense ... ow well not very common for the likes of you ^^

 

[Libertine]

thats because its common sense ... ow well not very common for the likes of you ^^

Since you referred to me with some whine about something i never said, then both you and VF missed the point of my reply telling me something i already know regarding slash/thrust and debuffs, i wouldn't be too fast to moan about others common sense if i were you

 

[Appollo]

Givf 9 sec stun!

 

[Aybabtu]

Givf 9 sec stun!

Yeah baby!

 

[Melachi]

The comment about 2handers being an advantage for SB's for PA's is rubish.

2Hander weapons are the least effective weapon for PA's. Because PA style damage is not affected by weapon speed, or weapon base damage.

ie

Lets say you PA with a slow 2h(5spd+), you get this:
You perform PA perfectly! (+500)
You hit blah with your 2hSword for 700

Now lets try that PA with a very fast 1h(2spd), you get this:
You perform PA perfectly! (+500)
You hit blah with your fast 1hsword for 550

You see for PA, the weapon you use for it, only adds base damage.



Oh, and btw defi how much str cap you run with?

 

[GrIrcSpammer]

26

 

[Melachi]

26

and PH in template? Pfff must have 0spirit/energy/matter/crush

 

[GrIrcSpammer]

18 matter 17 spirit 26 crush 0 energy ;D

 

[Thyre]

:worthy: all ns infil ranger(melee spec) and slaming scouts with bloody slam

Get my ass wiped most time in rvr vs other stealther as a sb
must say i think sb need a little love maybe stun after evede or a bit higher dam output to even out the odds a bit.

and ofc a high rr should win over a low rr but if u play good u should have a chance to win even if its a small one

btw think there are some good infils on this server

Thesa :worthy: u are a hard bugger

/grymling crapy sb 4L3 and rising

 

[Raven]

18 matter 17 spirit 26 crush 0 energy ;D

usefull info may have to dust off my belt of sun

 

[GrIrcSpammer]

usefull info may have to dust off my belt of sun

haha btw raven wanted to ask .. the week u were soloing did u have solo ras ? i mean moblocking moparrying etc ;D

 

[Raven]

haha btw raven wanted to ask .. the week u were soloing did u have solo ras ? i mean moblocking moparrying etc ;D

nah same RAs, mastery of pain 4 aug str 3 ip2 purge2 barricade 1 then some wasted points in toughness etc. i am still soloing but after the frustration of making a vid i hit burn out a little, crafting until it feels right to go out again properly

 

[wittor]

Givf 9 sec stun!

w0rd
9sec stun + remedy imo then we are balanced , now we are underpowered atm..

 

[[WR]Mothman]

Debuf stren/con do MORE-MORE dmg on sb.
If the sb are kobbi if u debuff him sb death 99.5%.
infil/ns dmg> sb dmg
Stealth class are balanced?
atm a rr3 can kill withoth no problem rr6+ sb

 

[Adari]

there is only 1 thing i want to say

i rox all of yous la -_-

 

[Jox]

!!!

Remedy aint that good. I havent played much in NF, but I have noticed that many NS dont have time to press remedy before my improved lifebane starts to tick.

And I like the fact that Infils have to spec thrust 50 to get the stun while nightshades get it for free.

But saracens shouldnt whine, they have +5% against heat.

 

[Kaun_IA]

i can say that if a sb is playd good, its unbeatable for me. but whit a inf i have a chnace evry time, exept whit a few, that eat me so fast

 

[Theseus]

Thesa :worthy: u are a hard bugger

Thanks alot for the kind words Grym.

I would have to say that I can feel the difference when I am fighting a stealther that solo's all the time and one that groups most off the time. If you want to be better, and you have a cracking template, start soloing more. I know it will be shite alot off the time and hard in the beginning, but soloing as a stealther is the only way to improve your playstyle.

I can't comment much on Infiltrators. Like many have stated, not many good ones around anymore. There are some that can dish it out still though but they are not OP like they used to be.

Sb's on the other hand... I know that the class has some issues that we all know about, but i do believe that if you maximize your character, use the best artis you can have and play smart a SB is a very good assassin.
Hugmeh is imo the best one around atm... I think thay Illusb plays well, but he depends too much on casted resists and all that shite i personally dont bother with. They play both solo all the time.

The reason for me chatting away at this is because i see Sb's and Hunters grouped with WL's , with SM's, with Fg's sometimes... Alot off em dont finish the fights and run away to the towers or keeps every single time.
How do they expect to get any better at their class if they play like that?

/rant off

 

[GrIrcSpammer]

what i wanted to add is that for some strange reason there seems to be a major damage variation among same classes but different races. For example ... for some reason that i am unaware of kobbie sbs hit for less dmg even if they got same str and qui with norse... i ve noticed the same for briton/hl mercs :| mythic should tell us whats wrong