SB specc

[lpep]

out of interest is any sb specced 50 wpn/ 50 crit and if so is it any good????

 

[the_smurflord]

Ripper is a terrible style, not worth it in my opinion.

 

[Whisperess]

You're probably not after the actual lvl 50 style, but the increased damage on the normal styles. ( garrote/achilles etc, not PA since that caps out on 44CS )

Imo, compare the damage increase from 50 over 44 CS or whatever you're aiming for with what you lose out on the other lines; decide for yourself if it's worth it

 

[Conchabar]

Originally posted by Whisperess
You're probably not after the actual lvl 50 style, but the increased damage on the normal styles. ( garrote/achilles etc, not PA since that caps out on 44CS )

pa caps at 44 cs?... ffs y didnt i ever know that=/ give more details imho

 

[old.Emma]

There is no PA cap at 44 CS. you get 9 extra damage onto your cap for every point in CS. The current max for CS where you still get a increase to your cap is 71 CS (rr11 which is a bug ;p)

44 CS is the highest i would personally get. As the increase in damage is not worth the points needed to get from 44 to 50 CS, on top of that the 50th CS style Ripper suffers from insane variance and more often than not does less damage than hamstring/leaper.

Not only that but 50 Weapon/50 CS is a daft thing to do ;p

You dont have the spec points and by going that route you either gimp stealth to get reasonable envenom or have bugger all for envenom.

 

[eNzi]

I am 44sword, 44LA, 35 stealth, 34 CS (soulblade) and I think I do well.. ppl keep telling me that I am gimp cuz I have no envenom.. I were SZ before(35 envenom) and cannot feel the difference tbh.
Flame away.

 

[jox]

Originally posted by eNzi
I am 44sword, 44LA, 35 stealth, 34 CS (soulblade) and I think I do well.. ppl keep telling me that I am gimp cuz I have no envenom.. I were SZ before(35 envenom) and cannot feel the difference tbh.
Flame away.

I guess you are rr 4...so that would be +15 totally.

Go axe 50, laxe 39, Env 32, Stea 34 & CS 10(no autotrain), if you want to stand a chance.

Use havoc/tyr's fury with comeback/frosty as backup styles.

You feel no difference when you land ener coz you cant "see" the targets hit loss. The only thing you will miss if you spec out of cs is cd(7 sec stun), but in return you will have higher weapon skill and better damage output over all.

But I must say that cs-styles > sz due to the fun-factor.

 

[eNzi]

You might be right Jox(well, I know you're right..) but I just like the CS style too much to respec out of them :| the garrote + follow up, PA + CD .. combined with the LA styles comback, frozty gaze and snowsquall

And no, I am a newbie only RR1L7 hehe..

 

[Ozands]

Well i say go my specc 50 axe 44 la 28 env 35 stealth (i get second best debuff and it helps alot) gives u a fair chance 1on1 against infils and respec to soulblade or 5 specc when higer rr

 

[osrim]

Sb...hmmm

Wot infil player came with charbuilder is:

50 axe, 39 la, 30 env, 31 stealth, 21 cs for rr7+ spec

Closest my mercfil i think

 

[VVatchh]

45 axe 34 cs 39 la 25 env 34 ste

 

[angrykid]

what about 43 axe, 44 la, 34 stealth 31 env, 21 cs? I have that, and I always loose to an infil. :-D

can't be that bad, though..

 

[Ozands]

well why specc low in weapon ??? high axe/sword = damage

 

[-RG-Jaond]

50 weapon
44 la
32 stealth
30 env

at rr7

without autotrain

Best spec imo, and lower you weapon spec untill you are high enough rr and put it in stealth/env just make sure that you got 47env with rr+items at rr5

 

[Runolaz]

Originally posted by -RG-Jaond
50 weapon
44 la
32 stealth
30 env

at rr7

without autotrain

Best spec imo, and lower you weapon spec untill you are high enough rr and put it in stealth/env just make sure that you got 47env with rr+items at rr5

I had a spec almost like that without any CS and later I respecced to get BSII and imho I think a SZ should go for BSII, but anyway it's a matter of taste.

I have respecced to CB after 1.62 I havn't had enough time to get 100% used to it, but anyway I focus on landing PA/BSII in every combat, and I actually land it from time to time vs stealthers = insta win.

My spec atm is 46Axe/44CS/33ST/33EN/11LA and my dmgoutput seems to be fine. In addition to the PA/BSII chain I use Havoc/Hamstring/Leaper/Rib Sep and Evernigth/Articrift. I use a 2-qbar setup with macros that I still need to get into my fingers, but other than that I'm pleased with my current spec

 

[cha0tic]

Ive tryied with critblade, soulblade, shadowzerk, and imo shadowzerk is the best option till u have ennough RR to put ur poins into 5specc.

 

[-RG-Jaond]

Originally posted by Runolaz
I had a spec almost like that without any CS and later I respecced to get BSII and imho I think a SZ should go for BSII, but anyway it's a matter of taste.

I have respecced to CB after 1.62 I havn't had enough time to get 100% used to it, but anyway I focus on landing PA/BSII in every combat, and I actually land it from time to time vs stealthers = insta win.

My spec atm is 46Axe/44CS/33ST/33EN/11LA and my dmgoutput seems to be fine. In addition to the PA/BSII chain I use Havoc/Hamstring/Leaper/Rib Sep and Evernigth/Articrift. I use a 2-qbar setup with macros that I still need to get into my fingers, but other than that I'm pleased with my current spec

BS2: is only good vs casters imo and cant say a caster is any big trouble without bs2

Vs tanks/scout/mincers etc almost every fight I get my fg in for a better stun.

Vs infils: I was soulblade before 1.62 and my experience is that it's not often you get the chance to pa/bs2 a infil


But ofc it's up to how you want to play and i can say im damn tierd of my sz atm, waiting to get my hands on a few respec stones and i will give cb a chance.

 

[witte-]

imo reroll a infil and wtfpwn xDD

oh and btw don't listen to Jaond he's teh gimp !!1 ;dd

 

[Arnor]

rr10 infil: 70thrust, 70dw, 50cs, 50stealth, 47 envenom

 

[-RG-Jaond]

Originally posted by witte-
imo reroll a infil and wtfpwn xDD

oh and btw don't listen to Jaond he's teh gimp !!1 ;dd

haha you really miss us? i know you cant quit for real you gimp

 

[jox]

Nah, I changed my mind, the best spec these days is the shadowcrafter spec; max your strength(so you can carry much) and your stealth(so you can avoid people you owe money).

 

[Urme the Legend]

Originally posted by jox
Nah, I changed my mind, the best spec these days is the shadowcrafter spec; max your strength(so you can carry much) and your stealth(so you can avoid people you owe money).

That one rocks!!

 

[Onedda]

45 axe / 44 la / 34 stealth / 35 envenom / rest cs.

thats my spec after respecing from critblade.

alot better than a critblade ( my own thoughts that is ).

oh yes im RR4 atm soon RR5.

 

[Runolaz]

Originally posted by -RG-Jaond
BS2: is only good vs casters imo and cant say a caster is any big trouble without bs2

Well Emain is not that crowded with solo casters these days , but I think its wourthwhile having

Originally posted by -RG-Jaond
Vs tanks/scout/mincers etc almost every fight I get my fg in for a better stun.

Only thing that really suck on CB imho is lack of in-combat-stun, but then again these classes are also easier to open the figth with PA/BSII, but FG is a really nice style - and I miss is a lot.

Originally posted by -RG-Jaond
Vs infils: I was soulblade before 1.62 and my experience is that it's not often you get the chance to pa/bs2 a infil

I've manged to open several figths with them lately and those that don't I popp purge or have /rel rdy lol

Originally posted by -RG-Jaond
But ofc it's up to how you want to play and i can say im damn tierd of my sz atm, waiting to get my hands on a few respec stones and i will give cb a chance.

I have a respecstone in my vault and I'm itching to us it for 41Axe/39CS/39LA/33ST/23EN or 47Axe/21CS/39LA/33ST/33EN (4p aut. :/), but I really don't want to give up on my EN or CS, and besides I am happy about my spec as it is. Other than that trying out new specs is always fun

 

[illu]

47Axe/21CS/39LA/33ST/33EN I think is better out of those 2.....

Personally I have gone 44Axe 39LA 21CS 35Env 35Stealth (I think - been levelling up the shammy buffbot in malmo so haven't played the sb in a while :/)

Answering lpep's original question, going sb specced 50 wpn/ 50 crit is great if you get the first hit in, especially on a caster type - if you miss - hmmmm - you could be in trouble.

It all depends on your patience and how you want to play the game. I used to have high-ish CS (39), but in the end, wasn't hitting hard enough after the opening clash.

If you go critblade - you need to pick good targets, and make sure you pull off your opening PA move. It'sa lot more sneaky and frustrating I find.

I went for the Bashing / Poisons for teh win type, landing 3 poisons on the nme, and if I dodge an attack, I can get a stun in off the Comeback / Frosty Gaze Line, and then you usually win.

Most fights seem to be initial exchange, purge >), bash bash bash , hope for an evade, then usually win. Always handy to go around with another sb or 2 though :>

Anyway - have fun whatever you pick - the SB is a great class, and while people are fighting in the "real world", there is a whole stealth war going on out there, and it's fun when you get the jump on a ranger / scout type or an infil or ns who is sleeping :>

Oli - ILLU / ILLUSB

 

[Zill]

I logged and played my SB last night for the first time in about 9 months (he's been living in Cruachan Gorge for nearly a year sheltered by some kindly Luris who took pity on him). I still have my old spec of LA 44, Axe 39 - and boy I was hitting badly. My highest combo was around 98 and 20, my lowest 41 and 11 using Doublefrost against classes I really should hit harder. I wasn't sure whether it was my weapons which are ancient artifacts or that the duel wielding SB has been confined to the scrap heap. Looking at your comments there still might be some life in the old beast yet, although to be fair even at my peak in patches gone I was still being chewed and up and diced into small pixels.

Ok, so I need some weapons which would be a good start to replace my current assortment of axes. Any museum curators here wish to make an offer for these ancient relics which would grace any showroom? Get in touch.

 

[Whisperess]

33 stealth, 44 axe, 44 cs, 39 LA.

Works for me. ( used to have 35 stealth, 44 axe, 44 cs, 35 envenom, 13 LA )

 

[Nazghul-]

i have the following spec and i find it works ok:

50 Sword
40 LA
32 Envenom
35 Stealth
2 CS

At RR5 i now have 50 stealth and access to last debuff (which really is noticeable from the lvl 37 one i used before).
Weapskill unbuffed is 1000+

I use Backstab1 for bubble breaking (but pretty crap dmg ofc).

If i had a respec i'd go for:
44 Axe
44 LA
35 Envenom
35 Stealth
5 CS

this would yield a lot lower weapskill but would mean access to lifebane and snowsquall/icy brilliance combo.