Savages ARENT hybrids

[Shaurr]

Originally posted by Gordonax
It does get to be a bit boring, to be honest, when mids claim the zerker was "destroyed" by the LA nerf. Everyone knows that a good player can still win a huge number of RPs with a zerker, that it's still fundamentally a good damage-dealing class. I have a lot more sympathy with the SB's, who got hit a lot harder by the LA nerf than zerkers, taking them from well-above the effectiveness of infi's to well below it.

I didn't say zerker is unplayable, and I like my sb just fine. I said, its too bad they didn't treat the situation for zerkers and sbs the same way they do savages now. Please don't jump to conclusions and mbe mature enough to drop the caps.

 

[tildson]

Savages cant be hybrid, they are doing too much damage for being one

 

[Gordonax]

Originally posted by Shaurr
I didn't say zerker is unplayable, and I like my sb just fine. I said, its too bad they didn't treat the situation for zerkers and sbs the same way they do savages now. Please don't jump to conclusions and mbe mature enough to drop the caps.

1. I wasn't replying to you.
2. I didn't use any caps.

 

[old.Ramas]

They keep making similar comments about chanters.

"We can't nerf them without changing the character of the class"

The 'character' presumably being wtfpwnage.

Anyway, someone is still going to have to explain why taunts still have an interrupt component.

Normal people tend to believe that casters should be better at range, and melee at point blank. Everyone having ranged interrupts (insta in all cases bar pure tanks and 1 or 2 others) changes that to, casters are better unless someone targets them.


bah etc.

 

[nalistah]

 

[Dorin]

wondering wot new class will hibs get after chanter nerf.... mmm

And yes prolly savage is a bug (overpowered fotm shit, every 2nd midgardian player got a lvl 50 savege, but they still say its balanced /laugh ) no idea how did it came through internal testing anyways.

 

[Driwen]

all changes on mythics side at the moment have been towards the cost of the buffs and not the effect. Its hard to predict wether the cost of buffs is good enough now mythic clearly hasnt got that much clue about how rvr is now. As most people get /assist killed so +20% evade is nicer than having 9% hp, besides the real effect was +4.5%. But it isnt something you can simply measure, you need to see how people play with it and even that can take some time before people know how the tactics of this new class.
So unless you want to beta your expansion for a long period of time its better to fix the buggs in it and the most obvious unbalances and then go on and see what unbalances you have left.


Off course this isntexactly the work of a company that really cares for what it gives as product to their customer, but hey its mythic we are talking about.

 

[catalina]

Yay they've dropped the insta-taunt, well big fucking deal. Will that stop clerics from going down in 2-3 hits from a savage (never mind the current standard of 3-4 savages per group)

Det has pretty much ruined RvR, and not just for casters. As said in this thread, if your not a det tank then you won't have much chance of gettin grouped. Sure pala has end regen but soon as you get mezzed it stops, and with no det your entire group has been torn to pieces by the fotm group before mezz even wears off. Only choice you got is to burn purge so you got a slim chance every 30mins.

SC has spoiled alot of the fun as well, you don't have to quest/raid for the nice drops cos you can cap all your stats/resists by farming a bit of cash. The game simply isn't as much fun as it used to be

 

[Garnet]

TBH RAs and SC was the start of the downfall to RVR, before the new classes such as the savage. Without the savage and determination ingame = possible that Thanes would still be played?

 

[parzi]

nah. imo without savages it would just be the next best meelee class that would be whined about. since atm tanks > all, and so the best tank class gets all the whine

would be warriors and zerkers in the groups (they get grps ok imo, dunno was in several random grps last days due to lack of guildgrp , think i grouped with more zerkers than savages, and more and more healers are trying to get a warrior for guard vs enemy assist teams.

heck even had a late night grp with 1 healer 2 bonedancers a thane etc, and we kicked a hib fg and some warder zerg with that, had a good laugh.
although vs a alb/hib guildgrp that group would have been wiped ofc, such groups are only possible late in the evening or early in the morning

 

[belth]

Originally posted by Garnet
TBH RAs and SC was the start of the downfall to RVR, before the new classes such as the savage. Without the savage and determination ingame = possible that Thanes would still be played?

Not SC. Epic armor.