Savage

[sagara]

I think I will make a savage but what race, weap and spec is best?

h2h or hammer?

 

[orbin]

Save yourself the trouble and make a warrior instead... otherwise u will be nerfed!

 

[old.anubis]

h2h kobold

 

[sagara]

Originally posted by orbin
Save yourself the trouble and make a warrior instead... otherwise u will be nerfed!

isn´t a savage better then a warrior?

 

[froler-mid]

Originally posted by sagara
isn´t a savage better then a warrior?

depends how u see it.


but i belive warrior is mids next fotm tank ;dd

 

[expreso]

kobbi h2h

troll hammer/sword


imo :d


spec for both 50 weap rest savagery <- a must imo

 

[Iri]

a savage kill faster yes but savage cant hold aggro from 4-5 mobs or engage high lvl mobs on raid.

in rvr a savage onehit ppl and kill em faster than warr but warr can guard seers

u cant say " a savage is better than a warr" they are different classes for different use etc ^^ and we dont know if savage will still be uber after nerf...

but if u want h2h make a kobbi/valkyn if 2h go for a troll

 

[megahealer]

Originally posted by orbin
Save yourself the trouble and make a warrior instead... otherwise u will be nerfed!

Nerfed? why? what? when? who?
plz tell, what will they do to my savage? /cry

 

[Risinn]

These are the nerfes which come in the next patch, 1.65.

Savage

- A bug in Savage's chances to triple or quad has been fixed. Savages should now triple more frequently than before, and quad less frequently than before. Due to this, overall savage damage should decrease.

- Savage buffs have been halved in duration, and had their health cost halved.

- The Savage "Irreverent Gesture" line has been changed from a shout to a 2 second cast time.

- Savage buffs now subtract a percent of your maximum health, not your estimated health. Since estimated health was lower, this is an increase from what it used to be.

- We've toned down the damage that Savages do while wielding any weapon other than a Hand to Hand weapon (to be equivalent to Hand to Hand weapons).

 

[Conchabar]

Originally posted by Risinn
These are the nerfes which come in the next patch, 1.65.

Savage

- A bug in Savage's chances to triple or quad has been fixed. Savages should now triple more frequently than before, and quad less frequently than before. Due to this, overall savage damage should decrease.

- Savage buffs have been halved in duration, and had their health cost halved.

- The Savage "Irreverent Gesture" line has been changed from a shout to a 2 second cast time.

- Savage buffs now subtract a percent of your maximum health, not your estimated health. Since estimated health was lower, this is an increase from what it used to be.

- We've toned down the damage that Savages do while wielding any weapon other than a Hand to Hand weapon (to be equivalent to Hand to Hand weapons).

in actual fact we end up quading once in a blue moon triple hitting just abit more then we do now and we spend r life single hitting afaik

 

[kinag]

Originally posted by Conchabar
in actual fact we end up quading once in a blue moon triple hitting just abit more then we do now and we spend r life single hitting afaik

wubly :>

 

[nott]

another savage question.

Whats the recommended weaponspeeds to use on hth? Is it the same as Left Axe with slow righthand and fast lefthand?

 

[kinag]

no, the two slowest of each damage type.

At fifty you use the slowest you can get in each hand.

 

[Driwen]

Originally posted by Conchabar
in actual fact we end up quading once in a blue moon triple hitting just abit more then we do now and we spend r life single hitting afaik

quad is a third of what it used to be and triple is now at 5%, single hit is still at same percentage as it used to be afaik(allthough it is rather high:/)?


Savages can cap speed with the slowest with their haste buff usually and certainly with celerity. So slowest is best

 

[Denisée]

Originally posted by nott
another savage question.

Whats the recommended weaponspeeds to use on hth? Is it the same as Left Axe with slow righthand and fast lefthand?

Slowest posible hth weapon in each hand. Preferable thrust claws since they ripe apart enemy support and got the slowest speed atm (3.7).

Next patch you can craft 4.0 thrust claws and Yar should drop 4.0 slash claws in some patch soon.

With 4.0 spd and 261 qui (kobbie, no start + qui, +75 from sc + 93 from buffbot (moa3+)) and second best self haste (32%, 35 in savagery) you got a attackspeed on 1.6864.

With 3.7 spd instead of 4.0 but same qui and self haste your attackspeed is 1.55992.

 

[deadkid]

With all those nerfs you can come kiss your owned ass tbh... and whine more about savages overpowered... savages will stay main dmg dealer...
2h viable spec is 44hammer 49 savagery which was fotm on US server
50 sword 39 savagery... or same spec but hth
there are some gimps with split spec but... send all you questions about it to Boogy

 

[hidon_steve]

whens 1.65 out?... soon i hope

 

[cougar-]

yah kobold rox, sacrifice 20 con for 20 totaly useless quickness xDD

 

[kinag]

Boogy ain't Split spec anymore, hth dorf..

 

[Driwen]

Originally posted by cougar-
yah kobold rox, sacrifice 20 con for 20 totaly useless quickness xDD

not sure, but I hope quickness for evade isnt capped at 250 and dex isnt for sure. So allthough kobbie misses out on some hits, they have a slightly better evade/parry. Which might be actually more useful as higher evade means bigger chance on not getting slammed and tanks most often die after the battle has been lost or won already. So a few hits aren't that useful, while maybe a little evade might be though .

 

[kinag]

Do as Uriel the lvl 50 troll savage from Defiance.. Get dodger2 and cap evade (for trolls that is)

 

[old.Lethul]

Originally posted by cougar-
yah kobold rox, sacrifice 20 con for 20 totaly useless quickness xDD

kobold rox mkay?

and hopefully they will soon remove the qui cap

 

[etcetra]

Originally posted by cougar-
yah kobold rox, sacrifice 20 con for 20 totaly useless quickness xDD

Looks > all okey? :|

And Dex? :||||

 

[VodkaFairy]

savages suck, they are the worst tank ever

dont make one

ok?

:X

 

[Archeon]

Originally posted by VodkaFairy
savages suck, they are the worst tank ever

dont make one

ok?

:X

Agreed Midgard needs less gimped Savages and more FoTM Thane gank groups.

 

[kinag]

Originally posted by Archeon
Agreed Midgard needs less gimped Savages and more FoTM Thane gank groups.

give more zerkers imo