/salute Tankster and Lupine

[stinkie]

What a refreshing change!!!!


Was killing mids at amg with my necro (pet other side of amg to me nuking away at everything in range) getting spammed /rude /taunt by random mids.

Next port hibs are camping amg so i start doing the same thing expecting another wave of /rudes to be spammed only to get spammed by /hug /wave /dance from tankster and lupine! was such a real nice change, made me laugh so hard i "almost" forgot to keep nuking.


If everyone had the same attitude to other realmers as these 2 Im sure RvR would be much more of a blast.

c u at amg again soon

/salute



MilkyBarKid

p.s got the killing blow on tankster and got less than 50rp while solo, guessing a lot of peeps want him dead lol

 

[Novamir]

So you just admitted to abusing LoS to get RPs in a blatant way?

k. /em fires up RightNow

 

[old.Mitsu]

Actually did a /clap because I thought you had the pet inside the wall.
Enjoy your fun while you can.:touch:

 

[stinkie]

Originally posted by Novamir
So you just admitted to abusing LoS to get RPs in a blatant way?

k. /em fires up RightNow

go for it mate. what i did is perfectly leagal as the pet is targetable and killable in its location (next to amg ATk side) If i had put it inside amg then it would have been abuse and bannable.

 

[Exinferis]

Originally posted by Novamir
So you just admitted to abusing LoS to get RPs in a blatant way?

k. /em fires up RightNow

rightnow would be overheated if i had to send in a msg each time a chanter abused los to get RP

 

[Cloak_]

Its not a bug its a *feature*

 

[Arnor]

Originally posted by stinkie
What a refreshing change!!!!


Was killing mids at amg with my necro (pet other side of amg to me nuking away at everything in range) getting spammed /rude /taunt by random mids.

Next port hibs are camping amg so i start doing the same thing expecting another wave of /rudes to be spammed only to get spammed by /hug /wave /dance from tankster and lupine! was such a real nice change, made me laugh so hard i "almost" forgot to keep nuking.


If everyone had the same attitude to other realmers as these 2 Im sure RvR would be much more of a blast.

c u at amg again soon

/salute



MilkyBarKid

p.s got the killing blow on tankster and got less than 50rp while solo, guessing a lot of peeps want him dead lol

soo, you blatantly abuse the crappy-los and then wonder if ppl could be nice to you?

stfu/foad plz

 

[Carlos Bananos]

if the person being nuked by the pet tries to attack back (ranged attacks etc) and gets 'target is not in view' its breaking los bug etc

 

[Trinilim]

Originally posted by Novamir
So you just admitted to abusing LoS to get RPs in a blatant way?

k. /em fires up RightNow

Mythic won't do anything about it.

It's been tried, and they will say something along the lines of:

The pet is targetable and killable, therefore it is in no way cheating and/or bug abusing. The person in question is in no way guilty. If the pet were in a wall, or in a tree, making it not targetable, then it would be bug abuse, but as it stands, this is a natural feature of the game and will not be considerred a cheat.

You know how many enchanters I could have gotten suspended for using LOS bug if mythic cared?

Too many to count on one hand, that's for sure..

 

[stinkie]

Originally posted by Carlos Bananos
if the person being nuked by the pet tries to attack back (ranged attacks etc) and gets 'target is not in view' its breaking los bug etc

taken from daoc euro official site :


The most common bug exploit is to use geometry holes in order to position your character in an unreachable place, giving the exploiter the freedom to kill any players coming around, with little to no risk, since the victims cannot attack back, unless they themselves exploit the bug. This can be using roofs, bridge holes, etc. All players abusing such bugs are bug exploiters and can be punished. This rule also applies to pets.

Now, let's look at the recent discussions. The problem comes from the line of sight (LOS) of pets. In the current version pets can attack from range through solid objects. Players using pets normally, in a keep defence for example, and sending the pets through the doors are just playing their class normally, nothing wrong with that. Maybe it is not really fair play, but the issue will be fixed in a coming patch and there is no "bug" exploit in this case.



need i say more ?

 

[stunned]

I think most ppl just think You are lame. I also bet You know the reason why.

 

[old.Mitsu]

There is nothing wrong with nuking through wall.
It´s possible and legal in our version but will be fixed soon.

Another thing is facing the wall closely and then summon your necro pet. That means the pet is inside the wall and cannot be attacked normally. This is not allowed.

 

[ab_fluid]

ffs, its maybe not bug abuse_yet_but it's fuckign shit and u desever every single /rude /taunt u egt for it, lamer

 

[Aule Valar]

chanter pet (we need shorthand for this excuse it gets used so much)

 

[Glottis_Xanadu]

I believe next patch the Necro pet gets "fixed" so it needs LoS to cast/hit.
Offcourse, the Enchanter pet does not get "fixed" as according to Mythic this is completely different code, etc...
So Hibs will be still having fun, but Albs having fun get nerfed right away...
Really fail to understand how people can whine about Necro pets while their realm mates have been doing this for one year now...
Regards, Glottis

 

[AbPoon]

All los probs get sorted next patch, chanter sm and thurg pets included.

 

[Edlina]

Originally posted by AbPoon
All los probs get sorted next patch, chanter sm and thurg pets included.

Nah chanter doesn't.

The difference Gottis, is I seen necros hide pets inside keep then go out and repeatedly kill the rammers outside without any chance of stopping him, just standing next to you keep spamming silly dds and crap, and just laughing at me. it's abuse even if it's not considered an exploit. and it sure isn't fair game.

 

[old.Wildfire]

hoho hehe haha

actually my pet lagged into the wall yesterday so I hung around a bit waving at the 3-4fg mids there at the time (at 2am with only 1fg albs in emain TOTAL...) they eventually managed to find a spot where they could hit it through the wall so I nuked them back a bit, that made them back off... was kinda like little rodents on those nature shows trying to scavenge a meal from a wounded wolf/lion/whatever that they've found on its own. I didn't kill anyone cos i didnt want the WHHHIINNNEEEE and rightnow reports... but it was fun

...ANYWAY

Yeah pet parked on alb side of wall and me on the other side picking targets is perfectly legal. Get over it, and GIFV RPS U CAMPING WH0R3Z.

 

[saltymcpepper]

youd think that a rr10 would just do /face on the abomonation, then run thru amg and kick living fuck out of it

 

[Karnage]

Originally posted by saltymcpepper
youd think that a rr10 would just do /face on the abomonation, then run thru amg and kick living fuck out of it

uhm.. tanks?

be clever?

u sure?

 

[stinkie]

Thought I'd show you guys the list of necro features and bugs:

FEATURES

until they release the next patch we dont have LOS restrictions


BUGS

Keeps and Doorways

-Try to attack a keep on a steep hill (los)
-Attack someone on the battlements (los)
-Walk inside a keep tower and Try and walk around the battlements and not get stuck
-Run up the Hib tower and fall threw the outer walls
-Fall threw the upper wall at the top of the Lords room in Hibby land to your death
-Walk up the stairs at Mile Gates and stop while your pet stays below
-Just try to walk from one set of stairs on a Mile Gate threw tower to the other set of Stairs!!
-You are now a Power Battery till they come to the second door where you can still PBAoE threw the gate ( apparently this has not been an exploit or bug or a problem till Albion gets more ice wizards than the hibs/mids can take and start to post there displeasure that is when there will be a fix )
-PBAoE threw gate but don’t que with spells while on Defensive mode and your pet will take off on you threw the wall/gate if it takes damage.
-Edit: Couldn't walk out of the building in Gothwaite Harbor that has the material merchants in it while in shade mode. Had to lose the pet and recast.
-Edit: I've fallen through steps many times as a shade and even fell underneath a house in Fort Gwyntell(Vault keeper house).
-Edit: All MG Gatehouses Block the Necro in Shade
-Edit: Most shops in Wearyville Block the Necro in Shade
-Edit: The bridges over the river in Caldey seem virtually impossible to cross without losing your pet, forcing you to swim across the river.
-Edit: Hib forts from the coart yard to top of the steps from there you must release your pet if you wish to go to the frount of the fort or to the back tower.

Pet

-Facilitate Pain working does not work in passive mode (not sure why this is)
-Tell your pet to "go target" and watch it take 300 years (same with the 'here' command).
-Watch your pet on PASSIVE attack someone and break mez.
-Watch your pet on Defensive attack the rooted or mezed mobs after your target dies.
-Watch your pet on STAY walk forward and move around
-Step over a rock and watch your pet run up the side of a hill with nothing you do stopping it or making it come back
-Some places in SI and the frontier you only have to cross a certain area and the pet will run away and not a damn thing will retrieve him
-Watch your pet on "here" finish off a mob then run a random direction till it gets out of tether
-Watch your pet randomly take off in a dungen and attack a mob
-Have a cleric or friar tell you "ok, you realize I can't heal you 99.9% of the time b/c it's almost impossible to target the pet, right?
-Do not see the damage pet is taking or if it’s being attacked at all unless it’s visible
-Can not see damage pet is giving in melee
-Last pet melee is very very slow for our final pet.
-Try running through the frontier and pop out of shade-mode b/c your pet was stunned behind you (way outside of any visual range you can attain)
-Edit: Please let me tell which Pet is mine.. Need some way to tell Pets Apart.
-Edit: Need more info from the pet. When is he stunned/mezzed/rooted? How the heck are we supposed to know if we are not told?
-Edit: Debuffs Will interrupt Pets casting there by cuasing us to loose more power.
-Edit: Battery of Life does not heal Pet when active
-Edit: Paladin Heal Chant does not seem to heal Pet.
-Edit: Paladin Resist Chants do not work on Pet.
-Edit: Pet stays CC'ed for FULL duration despite resists
-Edit: If you buff your Pet, or someone else and have a mob targeted your Pet attack mob
-Edit: In Avalon and other Dungens Pet takes off for no reason and attacks Mob’s.
-Edit: Friar, Cleric Buff Resists not working at all. They do not stack, they do not transfer over they are just a waist of Power. They do not add to the Shade even.
-Edit: Pet and operator count as 2. Even though the Pet and Shade are sopose to Be ONE. So if you group with another person it seems to count as 3 people in a group even though there are only 2.


LOS

-Try to cast on something and spend power for no cast...
-Nightmare on Hilly terrain
-Same goes for some dungens
-LOS on shade cast spells because you are in front of you pet but your target behind you but in front of your pet.

Spells

-Most other casters I have found can cast much faster than us in RvR add in the pet delay time + cast speed = Necro’s cast take longer to do. Cleric, Friar Dex / Quickness buffs do not seem to increase our casting speed. All other casters seem to benefit from these buff spells but us.
-(This one is my personal pet peeve) why is our Dot a PBAoE?? Should be a range even if it’s only 1000. I just can’t see this spell being very effective other than last door keep defense.
-Power consumed even though your spell was interrupted
-Certain spell lines Power consumption is way higher compared to other lines that have similar spells.
-PBAoE spells require you to FACE the PET.
-Edit: If your pet is mezzed, you can still spam spells into the queue and blow all your mana. If you get mezzed in caster mode it will say "you can't cast while mezzed" (which is correct). They need to do the same mezz check for when the pet is mezzed.
-Edit: Pet/Spell Bug: Switching targets in battle while in passive mode causes about a 4-5 second delay before the pet starts casting. You can easily overwrite spells in the queue and waste mana.
-Edit: Resist Rates for our spells as well as double resist on spells
-Edit: Facilitate painworking does not work in Pet Pasive Mode
-Edit: Instants need to be you know INSTANT, not up to 5 seconds later when pet has finished his swing. That is NOT instant and that is a proc not an instant cast spell.

RA’s

-Some are still broken Even though the game went live. Its cast your dice and see if it works and you must use one of your /realm respects or wait it out till they fix it.
-Edit: AoM not work at all, neither does our natural racial resists.
-Edit

Augmented STR: doesn't transfer to pet
Augmented DEX: (Too much dex and you get your casting time below 2.5 seconds. This is BAD since you will then lose alot of spells in queue.)
Augmented CON: doesn't transfer to pet
Augmented QUICK: doesn't transfer to pet
Regeneration: Doesn't transfer to pet
Toughness: Doesn't transfer to pet
Mastery of Art: Doesn't transfer to pet, also see Augmented Dex
Mastery of Arcane: buffs are for the pet, and are uneffected by this RA
Concentration: We don't have a "quickcast" persay. Broken
Mastery of Concentration: see Concentration.
Purge: Doesn't work on pet. Has really NO use atm except to rid the necromacner of Rez effects.
Avodiance of Magic: Doesn't transfer to pet.
Empty Mind: Same as AoM.
Strike the Soul (our unique RA): VERY BROKEN. Cannot be used in shade mode, cast Negative Maelstom (DD, ~120 damage) instead.

Alchemy & Charged Items & Quests

-Edit: Can't use potions while in shade mode.
-Edit: Cant use charged Proc wepons or Reactive armor


Yes we are sooo overpower in RvR damn look how uber we are

 

[Arnor]

soo, since you have all these problems, you think its ok to cheat/be an utter asshole?

 

[old.Mitsu]

Originally posted by saltymcpepper
youd think that a rr10 would just do /face on the abomonation, then run thru amg and kick living fuck out of it

Yes cause he was all alone there... no wait.

 

[Belomar]

Originally posted by Carlos Bananos
if the person being nuked by the pet tries to attack back (ranged attacks etc) and gets 'target is not in view' its breaking los bug etc

Sorry, no. You will get "target is not in view" if you try to attack a pet on the other side of amg if the wall is between you and the pet (duh). However, as long as the pet is standing in the open, where for instance some random SB can kill it, it's perfect all right.

 

[lofff]

hehehehehehe haha. Been a crap abuser and proud of it, eh?