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[mikke]

I think the reason there is no random grps in rvr atm is that its not just to get a char to lvl 50 and ur rdy to go... like it was in SI and Classic. There you just needed 5-6plat and you could get all stats capped and MP items ect... but now you need MLs and TOA-SC!

And that aint easy to get if you are a normal player that goes to school\work every day. or with other words: dont got all day to play on...

This is whats needed to rvr today:

Artis:
1st: use several huors getting togather a template
2nd: you need to get shit loads of scrolls.
3rd: get the loads of artis
4th: level all the artis!

MLs:
1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8 - 9 - 10! thats 100 quests you need to do! (takes time)

Crafter:
you also need to get a lgm crafter to make stuff for you - and theres not to many out of them aither

And when all this is done, you must get a nice rvr guild! Becouse there is no random groups out...


Its sad that you cant have a life outside DAoC and still have fun in the game!

Mythic screwed the game up when ToA was released!

 

[Spankya]

I think the reason there is no random grps in rvr atm is that its not just to get a char to lvl 50 and ur rdy to go... like it was in SI and Classic. There you just needed 5-6plat and you could get all stats capped and MP items ect... but now you need MLs and TOA-SC!

And that aint easy to get if you are a normal player that goes to school\work every day. or with other words: dont got all day to play on...

This is whats needed to rvr today:

Artis:
1st: use several huors getting togather a template
2nd: you need to get shit loads of scrolls.
3rd: get the loads of artis
4th: level all the artis!

MLs:
1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8 - 9 - 10! thats 100 quests you need to do! (takes time)

Crafter:
you also need to get a lgm crafter to make stuff for you - and theres not to many out of them aither

And when all this is done, you must get a nice rvr guild! Becouse there is no random groups out...


Its sad that you cant have a life outside DAoC and still have fun in the game!

Mythic screwed the game up when ToA was released!

And now NF is out in the US where I have been playing and it sucks. Played about 10 hours in the last 2 weeks, NF sucks

I think DAOC is nearing its end really. The graphics are starting to look a bit dated even with TOA and NF, and its just the same old thing. SWG looks quite good, and other games are about with better graphics and gameplay.

 

[Jayce]

other games are about with better graphics and gameplay.

Like what exactly ?

 

[tierk]

And now NF is out in the US where I have been playing and it sucks. Played about 10 hours in the last 2 weeks, NF sucks

I think DAOC is nearing its end really. The graphics are starting to look a bit dated even with TOA and NF, and its just the same old thing. SWG looks quite good, and other games are about with better graphics and gameplay.

Have u played SWG ???

 

[legar]

NF made daoc more busy then anything the last 6 months.

everyone loves NF.. except for the vnboard trolls / gankgroups.

 

[Enli]

there are more people like u, form grps with them
surfing threads and standing pointless at dl for invite is the wrong attitude
i got several people in my guild who havent done any ml's and still manage to do rvr
they just tried to find grps or made em !!

 

[Drummer]

bla bla bla

1. A template is 10-30mins work. Less if u look for one on forums.Or ask me to do it

2. Yes scrolls are a bitch.

3. getting the arti itself isn't too hard. Just ask around for help in your guild/alliance.

4. Most artis are levelable in a few weeks time.

5. U don't NEED ml10. I'm ml2 and ml0 on my chars and I still get grps.

6. If u whine about lack of random grps: make one! I'm pretty sure you're not the only one who's not in a RvR guild. Just a lil effort can do wonders......

 

[Amadon]

In response to the first post, yes, TOA sucks, it's the worst thing Mythic ever did to this game. Unfortunately the rest of the game is good enough to make the hell that is TOA, worth suffering through.

 

[Chrstffr]

5. U don't NEED ml10. I'm ml2 and ml0 on my chars and I still get grps.

Correct u dont need ml10 but..

Tanks need ml8, bard ml8+, warden ml8, druid ml5+ and casters whatever (speedtraps are nice tho)

 

[Jika]

I think the reason there is no random grps in rvr atm is that its not just to get a char to lvl 50 and ur rdy to go... like it was in SI and Classic. There you just needed 5-6plat and you could get all stats capped and MP items ect... but now you need MLs and TOA-SC!

And that aint easy to get if you are a normal player that goes to school\work every day. or with other words: dont got all day to play on...

This is whats needed to rvr today:

Artis:
1st: use several huors getting togather a template
2nd: you need to get shit loads of scrolls.
3rd: get the loads of artis
4th: level all the artis!

MLs:
1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8 - 9 - 10! thats 100 quests you need to do! (takes time)

Crafter:
you also need to get a lgm crafter to make stuff for you - and theres not to many out of them aither

And when all this is done, you must get a nice rvr guild! Becouse there is no random groups out...


Its sad that you cant have a life outside DAoC and still have fun in the game!

Mythic screwed the game up when ToA was released!

wajn ?

 

[Mastade]

Then imagine a new player who just bought daoc - he will have a hell just getting from lvl 5- 12? since most of the dudes on the diff. servers have /level 20-30

 

[mikke]

3. getting the arti itself isn't too hard. Just ask around for help in your guild/alliance.

4. Most artis are levelable in a few weeks time.

5. U don't NEED ml10. I'm ml2 and ml0 on my chars and I still get grps.

Proud Member of {Celtic Fist}

You are in CF so u got nothing to whine about and nr4:Most artis are levelable in a few weeks time. hmm - but you need alot of artis for a nice template that will work in rvr. and most artis are down most of the time

 

[Adari]

I love TOA, the quests are brilliant and so are the areas etc.

And Spankya, lol, have you even played SWG. ;|

(If noy, 14 day trial on fileplanet/gamespy)

 

[Boni]

SWG looks quite good, and other games are about with better graphics and gameplay.

SWG - Hahahahahahahahaheheheheheheahahaheheh etc.

I took Christmas out to play this, mastered about 6 professions, made a few million credits, got holocrons etc. I wanted SWG to be good (was getting pretty bored of DAOC b4 TOA and I like Star Wars), but it simply isnt. Once you have farmed enough Sharnaff to get 'lvl 50' the game is pratically over. I could go on... but ill give one last example, drops....

In SWG whoever loots first gets the item, and no one else knows if they looted or what they looted. So every 14 year old has a looped macro setup to harvest corpses (bash monster, loot, repeat, that should get all the loot). Farming trips are a nightmare, organisers say things like (oh we will have a 'loot' list to see whos turn it is to loot), like that stops mr14 from wandering past the corpse and clicking his silent steal all macro...

Theres gotta be a DAOC killer in the pipeline, but it isnt SWG.

 

[Auriel]

ToA whine

I basically gave up on ToA RvR because in small scale fights, all that stuff you said is true. Just browsing through the VN feedback on NF, having a fully twinked loadout doesn't make as much difference in large scale battles. People are going out in backup gear and doing just as well, near enough.

ML's have a much larger impact on the large scale stuff, and there's plenty of time to get those. Artis and stuff are more of a luxury, unless you want to do really well in solo or an optimised fg. Funniest thing about arti-laden folk is they all look the same!

Personally it's a bit of a relief that NF is ok in 'modest' gear, even though I'm going to twink myself as much as I can anyway, just because it takes the pressure off me getting it done. Ie, it won't be a disaster if I don't get everything I want, and I'll still be able to have a good time in NF. That means that now I look at ToA, and I think I can kick back and relax more and just see what I get done.

I'm ML10, and I did that at a modest pace. I work regular hours and it wasn't too tough fitting the raids in. Aside from exploring I think the ML's have been the most fun in ToA, looking back I've got some artis too, but I think I'll only use a couple in the end. Some are just fluff, I can do without them really. Doing templates and all that is part of the fun for me anyway, and getting it done is just a bonus!

 

[vintervargen]

camlann 4 teh winne :|

 

[Llixeraxu]

games pretty much dead.

Toa is hard as hell for the casual player like myself.

Ive pretty much given up not in favour of anything else and i sometimes pop my head in now and then.. but it sucks..

I cant get all the items to be at all viable..

and im a champ.

Sure drummer.. bards in cf get group.

Now roll a champ in epic and re-do the situation playing 2-4 hours a week.

No chance mate.


Hard core players are keeping the game viable(fiscaly).. and preventing it being fun for the masses imo.

 

[Ogri]

Do not, under any circumstances, forget the marvel of DaoC that is Thidranki Faste.

Accessable to all, great fun, and perfect for the casual player.

 

[Tallen]

To the origional poster: We know, making a post about it is pointless, we all realised this months ago (in fact most of us realised this would be the norm when the yanks were "testing" ToA for us ).

About SWG: It's a good game, just lacks longevity and they have a very strange concept of "content".

As for ToA and casual players like myself, it is possible, but can be frustrating.

As for NF, it's the patch that DAoC needed over a year ago, it's the expansion that we all hoped SI was going to be.

Problem is that they have made such a mess of the game that unless NF is a complete re-do of RvR in every sense across the board and is sufficiently balanced, it will be back to beta again for another year for a game 3+ years old....thats not what i call good management.

Sorry, but NF is the last roll of the dice and an open admittance that the game is in such a bad state through poor management that they must rip RvR up and start again.

If only there was a better mmorpg....

 

[Auriel]

If only there was a better mmorpg....

Stay awhile... stay forever! xD

 

[Darksword]

just imo, but when thinking about it, do u REALLY need all that stuff? i mean cant u just rvr with ml0,1-2 artis (dont even have 2 b the uber ones ) and SCed stats capping stuff + a few quest jewelry etc? i mean i personally dont care for 5% extra dmg or 5fatigue if u r willing 2 go for all of that etc, well but imo its stilly perfectly possible 2 rvr with just SI stuff. i remeber that u hibbies have a really complicated name, but lets just call it that HUGE tree u go into thats hibs = 2 TGm maybe get 1-2 raids 2gethar and go looking inthere for nice items, kill the dragon a bit, and do sum quests and ur good 2 go as for RvR grps i really dont know what its like over here on hib but <shrugs> try making sum as others have suggested, go out and have a blast i remember the best fun ive ever had in RvR was with a BDer, a thane, and my SB, was amazing, we got ganked 2 minutes after we arrived at amg, but it was a blast