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well I can mainly speak about the solo getting jumped by fg .. that happen offen, some of the time because I'm semi afk running in emain(not looking if there is inc etc) but some happens more "strangely" like when u see inc stealth, and when the grp is out of LOS speed up and run again, some might think that is what I'm gonna do(ofc I'm a mincer) and then they come back, might be radar, might be them useing there brain(logic that a mincer will speed up again)

the more strange ones is when u are running in shade mode and a fg suddenly pass the road(amg-atk) towards me... well again might be radar... might be luck/the fg might wanna rebuff on the other side etc...


but fg vs fg fights we offen get jumped tho, but then again... etc

it is hard to be 100% sure....even tho the vid from Merlin was pretty easy to see he cheated :m00:
 

Asha

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Tilda said:
1 type of radar stopped working, afaik, the radar you pay for is still working.

Bee, if goa get several reports about a person using radar they will have a GM follow them, watch their tells etc and see what they do.
ie. if a person blatently saw someone, they couldn't use the "a stealther told me" excuse as the goa person could see their PMs too.
GoA do care, as much as people are loath to admit it. If you report someone, and get other people who saw them to do the same, then GoA will check it out.
In addition, goa have a far better (imo) response to radar than mythic, while mythic will give you a weeks ban or so, goa will just terminate accounts. Thats why it appears that it takes longer, as goa want to be more sure that they arn't terminating some innocent persons account forever.

Tilda
my buddy next to me told me
my buddy on ventrilo told me
etc.
 

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Thilde said:
No, it's rather a good challenge...
Good for you.

Frankly, I think people that devote considerable time to breaking something with the sole intention of fucking other people over to be marginally below a rodent in the food chain, I say below because I once saw a rodent do some tricks.

Yes I would piss on them if they were on fire, and yes, I would find more kerosene.

I abhor cheats, soembody making a wall hack utility for example deserves the same treatment that a cheat that gets caught does.
 

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Aussie said:
Bee met dunlest

Aussie, Dunlest play with me on LAN, and this guy dont use Radar, maybe same Dunlest as other ppl go to rest places and check if ppl resting... when i play with dunlest we do it alot, cuz we 4-5 ppl in the grp... stop saying things if u dont about it.

Or maybe i need to acuse Tahn's grp when they jump after Bolg?



Stop crying about radar and start to go with good fgs and try kill if u jumped by a grp.

Dont acusse "Hibernia" as Radar's user when only few ppl use it, try to get the guy who is using and report to GoA....

Is so lamme when the ppl use radar, those guys dont play for fun only for be the best? or just they dont use DAoC for play a game?

Dont accuse ppl if u dont sure, i remember when NP outside Emain, and they always jumped u for behind.. they using radar? i dont think so, just they know the best way and places for kill.

Greetings
 

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Yeah i hear ya bee, and its annoying.

Imo mythic should simply link to the page´s u can download the radars, or host em themself. so all can use em.

It ridiculous atm.

I can stand with my SB inside alb side of amg at the xmas tree up left hill. and destealth when hibs are in valley. and whooosh there comes the entire fg with their dicks in their hands to rape me.
Ok this isnt a hib problem just took hibs as an example.

I though that radar was supposed to be fixed with 1.68 or smt.
But from other threads i understand that only some radar´s stopped working.
While the more popular kinds still works as they work in some other way, and dont sniff on network traffic but sniff memory instead.

But if recall correctly i remember a 1.70(?) patch stating something about memory encryption.
Hopefully that will mean the end of it.
Doubt it though.

Still its so overwhelming seeing the fg running towards me when i unstealth inside a tree or sitting with my back inside a tree.
or in shade mode.

I mean like come on i cant usually never see a shade mode outside of name "showing" range.
Except for when it moves, as i can follow the small blurr.
 

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cougar said:
it's nice for those who never win to be able to blame radar i guess.
Wow, amazing powers of deduction you have, bordering on prophetic.

How can you tell these people never win?

Perhaps you have been on the end of a radar claim?

Perhaps you have nothing intelligent to add? Just do a +1 so people know why you are posting.
 

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Tay said:
Wow, amazing powers of deduction you have, bordering on prophetic.

How can you tell these people never win?

Perhaps you have been on the end of a radar claim?

Perhaps you have nothing intelligent to add? Just do a +1 so people know why you are posting.

yep ppl accused us (and many other rvr guilds) for radar alot of times and it's just a pathetic attempt to make the loss based on cheat.
 

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In the entire history of this server virtually every set group that has been doing well has been accused (note, accused) of using radar at some point.
This leads me to believe that Nol is correct with his 90% of people accusing others of using radar are just sore losers statistic. Though if I was to hazard a guess I would say the percentage is probably higher.

Slusk said:
HAHA..

ppl that deny any knowledge about radar in their guild etc are full of shit..

I am 100% sure that noone in my guild uses radar. If I even suspected someone was I would kick them, end of story. You may call me full of shit, but I would say you are either in a really bad guild saturated with radar abusers and expect that all other guilds are like your own....or you are extrememly paranoid and need to stop smoking as much and pass that joint around a bit faster. :p
 

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cougar said:
yep ppl accused us (and many other rvr guilds) for radar alot of times and it's just a pathetic attempt to make the loss based on cheat.
Then by making stupid statements without proof you are as pathetic as they are.
 

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im not sayin radar isnt bein used but accusin LA , vng and other rvr guilds is silly :(

im not sayin its out there its just get ur heads out of ur asses there r alot of stealthers out wich we ask were they died etc and we information from so if you call that radar i dont know it anymore :twak:

albs use cg for information we ask stealthers so wth is ur prob :m00:
 

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Tay said:
Then by making stupid statements without proof you are as pathetic as they are.

try to make some sense? i have no idea what you are on.
 

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Shawr said:
In the entire history of this server virtually every set group that has been doing well has been accused (note, accused) of using radar at some point.
This leads me to believe that Nol is correct with his 90% of people accusing others of using radar are just sore losers statistic. Though if I was to hazard a guess I would say the percentage is probably higher.



I am 100% sure that noone in my guild uses radar. If I even suspected someone was I would kick them, end of story. You may call me full of shit, but I would say you are either in a really bad guild saturated with radar abusers and expect that all other guilds are like your own....or you are extrememly paranoid and need to stop smoking as much and pass that joint around a bit faster. :p
Erm, make a wager and post it here, then if anybody does get caught cheating we can see that 100% actually means nothing!

I would never, unless I saw with my own eyes, say that I am 100% sure that somebody is not cheating, maybe I'm not so trusting as you, but trusting doesnt make it 100% sure.
 

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I can stand with my SB inside alb side of amg at the xmas tree up left hill. and destealth when hibs are in valley. and whooosh there comes the entire fg with their dicks in their hands to rape me.
Ok this isnt a hib problem just took hibs as an example.


this you call radar ????? ever heard of stealth lore on cyclops shield gimp?
 

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gravedigger said:
I can stand with my SB inside alb side of amg at the xmas tree up left hill. and destealth when hibs are in valley. and whooosh there comes the entire fg with their dicks in their hands to rape me.
Ok this isnt a hib problem just took hibs as an example.


this you call radar ????? ever heard of stealth lore on cyclops shield gimp?
Eeh, I suggest you read what he said.
 

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cougar said:
try to make some sense? i have no idea what you are on.
Are working your way to a degree in stupidity or something?

You make a sweeping statement based on no facts.

Which bit of this dont you understand..?
 

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Tay said:
Are working your way to a degree in stupidity or something?

You make a sweeping statement based on no facts.

Which bit of this dont you understand..?

I dont understand what you talk about at all? I said that it's nice to blame a "radar" for all the losses that are based on other factors rather then look at the real problem and you start to cry about something totaly differant.
 

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Herjulf said:
Still its so overwhelming seeing the fg running towards me when i unstealth inside a tree or sitting with my back inside a tree.
or in shade mode.

I mean like come on i cant usually never see a shade mode outside of name "showing" range.
Except for when it moves, as i can follow the small blurr.

Seen the same, but also from Solo/duo's. A couple of nights ago a Minstrel who's name I'll keep to myself (reported though) came rushing past me. As soon as I destealthed he turned at me, I stealthed and he came back to arround where I popped. He then left for mtk in the same direction, but as I was standing behind a tree totaly out of view I destealthed again, and belive it or not 5sec later he was standing on my spot behind the tree. I had meanwhile moved to a second tree, but this time I think he did not fall for it as he obvioulsy had to know that I was taking SS of him.

Another is also from last few days, were a duo of Scout/inf that for some strange reason inside Alb mg desided to leave the figth (that was closing to an end) down on road, go strait for left zonewall. As I have SH I could follow, and belive it or not high up close to the zonewall stood a solo afk Mid SM. Could be just a strike of luck, but really I do not think so.

The same goes for shademode it is so obvious when you popp out of stealth and have ppl changing directions, coming directly at you, when you know there is no chance in hell that they can see you.
 

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cougar said:
I dont understand what you talk about at all? I said that it's nice to blame a "radar" for all the losses that are based on other factors rather then look at the real problem and you start to cry about something totaly differant.
You said "people that dont win blame radar for losing", I said "how do you know this", you said "because we have been accused ourselves and its pathetic" I said "Your as pathetic as they are for making stupid comments".

Anything else you dont understand?

 

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Tay said:
You said "people that dont win blame radar for losing", I said "how do you know this", you said "because we have been accused ourselves and its pathetic" I said "Your as pathetic as they are for making stupid comments".

Anything else you dont understand?


nope i said

"it's nice for those who never win to be ABLE to blame radar i guess"

try harder.
 

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Wot-do said:
Im pretty sure radar still works, been in alot of situations when soloing with chanter and croc form, fgs running straight towards me. or maybe they just got a 400 mhz comp feeling inc lag from one player :p?

You dont need a 400mhz to feel inc lag. You can have a 3ghz n still feel it. No doubt.
 

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cougar said:
nope i said

"it's nice for those who never win to be ABLE to blame radar i guess"

try harder.
Erm, ok how do you know they never win?

Now you tell me which bit of your statement is pathetic.
 

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Tay said:
Erm, ok how do you know they never win?

Now you tell me which bit of your statement is pathetic.

read it again and you just might understand.

"it's nice for those who never win to be ABLE to blame radar i guess"
 

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Freppe said:
You dont need a 400mhz to feel inc lag. You can have a 3ghz n still feel it. No doubt.
3.0ghz
1024 mb pc400 ram
256mb radeon 9600xt

Inc lag when more than 6 :D
 

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gravedigger said:
I can stand with my SB inside alb side of amg at the xmas tree up left hill. and destealth when hibs are in valley. and whooosh there comes the entire fg with their dicks in their hands to rape me.
Ok this isnt a hib problem just took hibs as an example.


this you call radar ????? ever heard of stealth lore on cyclops shield gimp?

haha... have YOU ever used a SL-item?
Guess not.. else u would know the effective range.
 

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got jumped in HW whilst running with a minstrel in shadeform - he got nuked to bits out of name range before they got me ...

now maybe it was just coincidence they clicked on me and got the minstrel (as you can still click on shadeform folks even when they're out of visible range)...

It does make you wonder sometimes. Well hopefully whatever they're cooking up in 1.70 will catch a few of them.

Though it feels like the changes in 1.68 didn't help us in europe as all the radar programmers would have changed their programs to get around it before it even got here :(
 

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Aliorm said:
Aussie, Dunlest play with me on LAN, and this guy dont use Radar, maybe same Dunlest as other ppl go to rest places and check if ppl resting... when i play with dunlest we do it alot, cuz we 4-5 ppl in the grp... stop saying things if u dont about it.

Or maybe i need to acuse Tahn's grp when they jump after Bolg?



Stop crying about radar and start to go with good fgs and try kill if u jumped by a grp.

Dont acusse "Hibernia" as Radar's user when only few ppl use it, try to get the guy who is using and report to GoA....

Is so lamme when the ppl use radar, those guys dont play for fun only for be the best? or just they dont use DAoC for play a game?

Dont accuse ppl if u dont sure, i remember when NP outside Emain, and they always jumped u for behind.. they using radar? i dont think so, just they know the best way and places for kill.

Greetings

Yeye, go back to ur easymode realm and cheat some more kthxbye.
 

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cougar said:
read it again and you just might understand.

"it's nice for those who never win to be ABLE to blame radar i guess"
I'm afraid were going to have to agree to disagree, I simply cannot comprehend your logic.

People win or lose: Therefore you are refering to people that dont win.

If they lose they blame radar? is that what your saying?


Or perhaps you would like to highlight some other words in a vain attempt at trying to explain what you have written.

This is how I read what you said: "Those that never win blame radar"

I then posted here https://forums.freddyshouse.com/showpost.php?p=273862&postcount=97
 

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cougar said:
nope i said

"it's nice for those who never win to be ABLE to blame radar i guess"

try harder.

Just so you know, the word of the NP gm weighs heavy in this discussion *SUPER DUPER SARCASM*
 

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cougar said:
read it again and you just might understand.

"it's nice for those who never win to be ABLE to blame radar i guess"
aint those who always win do use of radar 4tw?

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