sad :/

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Bee, lay off the Vodka, take a break, roll a new fotm, just do smth, accusing ppl of using radar cos u died is just being a VERY sore Loser.

Xanthien take your head out of your ass. and see the bigger picture. EVERYBODY knows that radar exists and IS being used in excal rvr... so instead of flaming people who come here flaming those suspected of using it without naming names... u should be condemning the assholes who are using it also.......

we all also know radar is virtually always impossible to find proof of them doing so . but those wankers who do should be banned from the game etc etc. and if people whining on here about radar DOES maybe (if only a slight chance) make GOA listen and actually check more rigouresly for radar wankers ... and catch them,,, then i am happy to see radar whine threads

 

[Xanthian]

Read Bee's original post.

He mentions Hib FG's using radar.
He mentions they are from respected guilds.

Now think of 4-5 respected guilds on Hib and im pretty sure 1 of them will be VGN.
Now look what guild im in.
Now wonder why im defending myself and our guild against these claims.


Now get a clue, not everyone uses radar, yes some people do, not that I have actually encounted it, although some people are dodgy.
When people find us in odd places/get the jump on us from nowhere, I've just put it down to being beaten fair and square.
What I dont do is come here QQ claiming Mids/Albs use radar cos I lost without naming any names.

If you want us to support you in banning ppl that do genuinly use them, then back up your claims, give names + give proof(movie?)

 

[Bee Man]

If it's was VGN group - i know better way to fix that problem.

 

[Bee Man]

When i didn't calling names -> i hope (yes, i hope) - they off that crap self. W/out ban or etc. Or they guildmates ask them don't use that.

 

[Xanthian]

When i didn't calling names -> i hope (yes, i hope) - they off that crap self. W/out ban or etc. Or they guildmates ask them don't use that.

Thats bs, ppl dont care, they cant be caught, they cant be banned cos GoA cant prove it.

Give names and record it, else its just a lame excuse for losing tbh

 

[Belomar]

VGN is a respected guild?!?

 

[Xanthian]

VGN is a respected guild?!?

Sorczerg Society a respected guild?
Piss of Belomar, troll.

 

[noaim]

Sorczerg Society a respected guild?
Piss of Belomar, troll.

Didnt see him call SS a respected guild, while you directly assumed others talked about VGN when talking about respected guilds. So that reply isnt valid really. And I´d say SS is a respected guild for whatever that matters. (Sorry if I interfered in some personal joke tho)

 

[Viddi]

New Anti-Hack Technology Coming In New Frontiers

copy n' paste from:
http://www.camelotherald.com/more/1529.shtml

"New Anti-Hack Technology Coming In New Frontiers

New Frontiers represents a clean, fresh beginning for realm versus realm combat in Dark Age of Camelot. Part of that new beginning means that we must continue our ongoing battle against the cheaters and hackers who seek to have an advantage over honest players in our new lands; over the honest players who are the vast, vast majority of our customer base.

As part of the New Frontiers development effort, we have developed new "hacker sensing" technology. Early tests indicate that we can identify hackers better than ever before, and at the same time with fewer hours of investigation. We’re very excited about this, as it will significantly speed up our banning process. We have always cared very much about getting cheaters out of the game, but the process was so time consuming that it frustrated both ourselves and our honest players. Now, our first New Frontiers bannings and suspensions will happen during the first week of launch.

On some message boards, a few people have posted that they believe they need to use cheat programs because "everyone" does. While our numbers don’t reflect this at all - our tests continue to indicate that only a small minority of our players cheat - we will still give those people a chance to jump off the bandwagon and stop cheating of their own free will. Here’s your notice: If you completely uninstall the programs now, you won’t have anything to worry about.

If someone doesn’t uninstall the cheat programs he depends on to stand a chance against good players, because he thinks this is just another typical pre-release press release, he’ll present the perfect chance for us to give our new technology a spin. We’re looking forward to banning even more players who feel that it is perfectly acceptable to cheat in our game. Mythic will gladly lose the small portion of its subscriber base that does not abide by the EULA in order to make the game experience even better for the vast majority of the players.

Although our new technology guarantees faster and more accurate investigations, we will still consider each case individually and take the action appropriate to each account. Just remember, our stated policy is, and has always been "one proven hack, one banned account". If we opt to give second chances, we can only hope that people take advantage of the chance to start fresh.

New Frontiers will be be great fun, and we want the great rewards to accrue to players who really are that good, as opposed to people that really are that sad. Thanks "

 

[Fluid]

VGN is a respected guild?!?

i'd say so yes, so stop trolling

 

[Exinferis]

VGN is a respected guild?!?

damn you beat me to it

 

[Belomar]

Haha, what's this, everyone lost their sense of humor?

 

[Fluid]

Haha, what's this, everyone lost their sense of humor?

no, u just weren't funny :<

 

[Wot-do]

Im pretty sure radar still works, been in alot of situations when soloing with chanter and croc form, fgs running straight towards me. or maybe they just got a 400 mhz comp feeling inc lag from one player ?

 

[Tay]

actually radar stopped working in this last patch, if you read what the radar developer wrote.

Sometimes it's easier just to accuse everyone of using radar then to admit you were beaten fairly.

I think you'll find its still working as intended.

 

[Z^^]

if dunlest dont got radar he got 1000 stealthers in emain

 

[Tay]

copy n' paste from:
http://www.camelotherald.com/more/1529.shtml

"New Anti-Hack Technology Coming In New Frontiers

New Frontiers represents a clean, fresh beginning for realm versus realm combat in Dark Age of Camelot. Part of that new beginning means that we must continue our ongoing battle against the cheaters and hackers who seek to have an advantage over honest players in our new lands; over the honest players who are the vast, vast majority of our customer base.

As part of the New Frontiers development effort, we have developed new "hacker sensing" technology. Early tests indicate that we can identify hackers better than ever before, and at the same time with fewer hours of investigation. We’re very excited about this, as it will significantly speed up

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Erm, a few hours to detect a cheat omfg??...GOA has enough problem getting servers back up and running in less than 30 mins ....

Once again a company that controls the server the client and they cant secure the comms....<sigh>

I doubt it would be hard to generate some random key during the auth process and every 5 mins after that to hide zone data, it can be hidden in the net traffic.

People will always try to find out how to crack it, but change it often enough and the writers of dodgy software will be kept very busy, a completely unique key frequent enough will frustrate the hardened cheat.

 

[Jaapi]

Xanthien take your head out of your ass. and see the bigger picture. EVERYBODY knows that radar exists and IS being used in excal rvr...

And that's why everything that a person finds suspicious is labeled as a cheat, cos it's easier for your ego to lose to cheaters.

 

[Belomar]

no, u just weren't funny :<

Aww.

 

[Kalid]

Erm, a few hours to detect a cheat omfg??...GOA has enough problem getting servers back up and running in less than 30 mins ....

Once again a company that controls the server the client and they cant secure the comms....<sigh>

I doubt it would be hard to generate some random key during the auth process and every 5 mins after that to hide zone data, it can be hidden in the net traffic.

People will always try to find out how to crack it, but change it often enough and the writers of dodgy software will be kept very busy, a completely unique key frequent enough will frustrate the hardened cheat.

Radar based on decrypting network packets can be avoided (though at a more or less cost) but there are more sophisticated radars out there now. Basiclly they scan the memory to pick up the data. Mythic has in their new patches changed the areas, but it doesn't take very long time for the coders to discover the new area. One way to get rid of these radars would to change the area more often, like say once per day, but that also gives some other problems - new files needs to be downloaded for each change and all the clients needs to run the same version... So it is hard to get rid of all the radars.

What they could do is to place some "fake" data on illegal locations and check if anyone goes to that loc.

 

[Bometal]

Radar based on decrypting network packets can be avoided (though at a more or less cost) but there are more sophisticated radars out there now. Basiclly they scan the memory to pick up the data. Mythic has in their new patches changed the areas, but it doesn't take very long time for the coders to discover the new area. One way to get rid of these radars would to change the area more often, like say once per day, but that also gives some other problems - new files needs to be downloaded for each change and all the clients needs to run the same version... So it is hard to get rid of all the radars.

What they could do is to place some "fake" data on illegal locations and check if anyone goes to that loc.

yeah and can be easily implemented...

You let ghost players pop and roam in non obvious areas and you log every player coming into 500 gu range.

You let the ghost move and keep logging players getting in 500 gu range.

After a few weeks of collecting data, you begin data mining and It will be easy to locate players who are following those ghost alot in a certain period.

Then flag that account from that specific player, run a radarbait routine on him (let a ghostbait pop in his clipping range at random angles and see if he adjust his course to intercept the bait...).

Ofc this will create loads of overhead and prob more lag but just a thougt

It isnt that hard to automate that process

 

[anubis]

BC jumped our FG from behind, they use radar imo.

was it when we put warr in shade form on ailline-bolg road?
was nice fight but we lost tt
and i can admit u dont use radar as well

 

[nol]

I think you'll find its still working as intended.

I think you'll also find that 90% of the people who accuse others of using/having radar are bitter because they lost.

 

[Lethul]

i have only seen 3 ppl that i think have been using radar, and 2 of them are/was from BC

 

[Kaireem]

Almost every hib I know uses radar, also wallhacks.

don't forget godmode and allweapons!

 

[Amadon]

or maybe they just got a 400 mhz comp feeling inc lag from one player ?

i get lag from inc water beetles

 

[Articomplex]

nice noler

Dunlest only play daoc in my cybercoffe, he never use radar & nobody used here becouse i kick peeps that use it, all pc here are controlled by me & cant install nothing if i dont give permission. other problem is the whiners who lost vs dunlest, starting for Aussie.

dont worry, someday you can kill him.

for the rest peeps one kiss & dont be Galapago!


ArtiCompleX

Inandaalito

www.sitat.com/esc

 

[Serathule]

9/10 times hibs comes from behind and mezz .... always luck or can u have skill in comebehindandmezz?

 

[Fluid]

9/10 times hibs comes from behind and mezz .... always luck or can u have skill in comebehindandmezz?

its a conspiracy, 9out of 10 hibs rly use radar thats why u always get jumped, nothing to do with having a shit leader or not panning and generally being a bunch of noobs.

p.s IDIOT!

 

[CorNokZ]

If u wanna cheat and use crappy stuff to win a game.. Go play Diablo 2 imo!