Sad times for all - sucky 3am Raids

Arlone

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Ellegon said:
What sort of people ...

*insert long whine here*

Ellegon Lionheart.
Maybe you would be better off playing some singleplayer game where you can set the rules. Or do you think it sounds fair that everyone should follow YOUR rules and YOUR timetables?

If I felt like taking "your" keep at 5am on christmas thats what I will do. If you can't be online right then so be it ... your loss.

Maybe you could ask the gamemasters to pause the game whenever your not online tho?

Top ten BS of the week anyway, grats on that :)
 

kirennia

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To be plain, keep fights imo are fine at whatever time, what the hell do us albs need em for anyways, apart from DF? Which is what you're slagging them off for wanting? I suppose the roleplaying element too but then again, if you're a roleplayer, time doesn't really come into in.

Relic raids at ridiculous times after prime time successful raids of the opposition just show up the cowardice wankers of the game, plain and simple.
 

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kirennia said:
To be plain, keep fights imo are fine at whatever time, what the hell do us albs need em for anyways, apart from DF? Which is what you're slagging them off for wanting? I suppose the roleplaying element too but then again, if you're a roleplayer, time doesn't really come into in.

Relic raids at ridiculous times after prime time successful raids of the opposition just show up the cowardice wankers of the game, plain and simple.

its a fucking game and if u can't live with then quit, and no i wont care at all if mid lose relics cause then maybe, maybe albs would shut up and play the game and not whine 24 hours a day about something that happened long time ago and wont change with whining...

anyway just MY opinion
 

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Skilgannon said:
Norsemen, Trolls, Dorfs, Kobbies, Frosties, Firbies, Elfies, Luris, Celts, Twigs and Shars

and you camping milegates in hw with your little grp,with all the drain shyte up :) you rock :)
 

kirennia

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Calo said:
its a fucking game and if u can't live with then quit, and no i wont care at all if mid lose relics cause then maybe, maybe albs would shut up and play the game and not whine 24 hours a day about something that happened long time ago and wont change with whining...

anyway just MY opinion

Did I say I can't live with it? Theres cowards everywhere in life who can't deal with not having the biggest advantage so backstab to get it, doesn't mean I can't laugh at them and shrug it off.
 

Aponcit

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Calo said:
its a fucking game and if u can't live with then quit, and no i wont care at all if mid lose relics cause then maybe, maybe albs would shut up and play the game and not whine 24 hours a day about something that happened long time ago and wont change with whining...

anyway just MY opinion
Might just be me, but long long long long time ago when early morning relic raids were nearly daily thing, SOME/MOST mids started crying 'blabla you albs can't take a relic without doing a morning relic raid, and then some albs thought.. hmm lets give it a try and SUCCEED.. then after some raids from both realms on good times of the day, SOME mids decided that it wasn't fair albs took relic when they had a TG raid during that sunday evening.. and we all know what happend.. anway just MY opinion that it was someone else who started crying...:m00:
 

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Coren said:
You referring to Hurbury last night? Its ok imo, as albs won :D, and I needed something to do :p But really....keeps are only fun when theres defenders, and is there really that likely to be a decent number at 3am?

No, but STILL YOU HAVE TO HAVE MORE KEEPS THAN ANY OTHER REALM TO BE ABLE TO ENTER DARKNESS FALLS.

ty.
 

Ziva

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Lol at this thread tbh, these raids have been there forever you just started playing or what?

Anyway, just take back keeps when you do have people to help you :)
 

Evasive

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I read in Lineage2 about keep sieges and if I remembered well you can do sieges certain times of the day. Maybe they can bring some sort of this idea into DaoC, but I think it's hard to implementate on what times you are allowed to keep raids etc.

Hope it gets harder to take a keep in Frontiers, it should take hours imo and not 15-30 min. No time to react to get a force together to defend if people are even bothered.
 

Ailyn

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Ellegon said:
What sort of people wait until everyone is in bed to start taking keeps. If Albion were to do the same to you guys we'd be called all the names under the sun and accused of cheating and being lame - but i suppose what you did was concidered tactical and skillfull.

I have noticed that over the past months there isnt a day goes by when after midnight some group of hibs / mids starts an attack on one of our keeps.

Im not saying all are like this - it is obvious that there are still some respectable honourable guilds out there that launch their attacks in hours where defence can be rallied and i take my hat off to them in respect.

Last night at 3am an attacked was launched on one keep owned by the guild i am in - we had 8 people online at the time - of that 5 were active players and the whole of alb had less that 100 people on.

Why does DF mean so much to you people - is it the i must be the L33Test on my server and have as much cash as posible.

I know the game is all about being the most powerfull Realm and all that - but the next time a midnight sneak attack is launched - dont blame the attackers - look to your own people - its no longer in our hands.

Ellegon Lionheart.



So if DF aint important for you, i dont get the point in whining ... not like albs got any relics anyway etc.
 

Karolina

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Iam glad that Mids have Df all the time. Its the best place to Exp as i see it
in Mid accept for Dodens. Alot of peps goes df Chance´s to get rezz Increases Chance´s to get buffs Increases and sure Money Allso.


Salute All MIDS! :clap:


And if you want Df you gotta be more active on the keep Takeing front.
Albs have Major Probs getting groups togather for keep retake/take
They prefer going Emain as normal and Whit 15 grps there you guys maybe
go for 1 or 2 keeps and that is Dc/Crim.
 

Drav

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Think the major prob with Albs when it comes to getting DF is that its usual after some of the small keeptaking guilds have got back our own keeps, and then the emain zerg takes DC.... if we really wanted to keep it we'd swing it so we had a few other keeps as a bit of insurance.
 

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etcetra said:
No, but STILL YOU HAVE TO HAVE MORE KEEPS THAN ANY OTHER REALM TO BE ABLE TO ENTER DARKNESS FALLS.

ty.

I don't think the albs remember what df is as on the rare occasions they get it they lose keeps in the the time it takes to suicide and port there ;)
 

Antedeluvian

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yaruar said:
I don't think the albs remember what df is as on the rare occasions they get it they lose keeps in the the time it takes to suicide and port there ;)

Just like mids before those 200 abnorma.... errrr "heroes" showed their 7 AM skills?
I remember midgard losing ALL their keeps by hibs 2 days in a row tbh :kissit:

Of course we all know that midgard not only lose 20% melee damage when loses the relics, midgard loses too 20% population (those skillfull players you know) and that dont help.
 

Skilgannon

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Fiver said:
and you camping milegates in hw with your little grp,with all the drain shyte up :) you rock :)

You whine because at 22.00 BST (primetime) I happen to go to HW because /as reports 2 fg Mids gathering at MPK?

Were you there on a sightseeing tour?

A picnic maybe?

Or perhaps your 2fg were going to xp some artis?

I went solo and joined 1 fg KoP and we held the MG to prevent you taking an Alb keep. Isn't that the point of the game? Attackers and defenders?
 

Antedeluvian

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Skilgannon said:
I went solo and joined 1 fg KoP and we held the MG to prevent you taking an Alb keep. Isn't that the point of the game? Attackers and defenders?

Sadly, for a great amount of mid players thats not the point of the game :(
 

Smilewhenyousaythat

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Its only just come to your notice that mid has no honour or integrity.

Fotm whining hypocrit realm that all asked for alarmclocks for Xmas.
 

Dyss

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Antedeluvian said:
Sadly, for a great amount of mid players thats not the point of the game :(

how lucky we have albs that always want to fight in huge amounts and defend there AMG in emain :D
quite funny post tho :D
 

Makarilli

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Glottis said:
The alarm clock raid showed that 200+ retarded Mids are like that yes.
And the consequent Mid defense of the strength relics showed that around 400 Mids supported the attacks (as they showed up to defend, causing the server to crash).
Mids are spineless cheating cowards who probably all also used to cheat when they played Unreal, CS or any other online game.
Regards, Glottis

And so what ? we have the 3 strength relics. Beat that. Spineless Mids grabbed it during night. Want it ? Then use lesser words and come take it. When or how I don`t care. Pull your thumb out of your droolling weeping mouth and go do something about it. Lets see some action from your side instead but I bet you can`t

Same goes for keeps. It is a game but it is a game about a war between 3 realms. If you can`t stand people grabbing your keep or relics during day or night find another game.
If I choose to get up 0400 in the morning to play this game that is my choice, if you want to sleep that is yours but don`t come around whine about it.
 

Drav

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Its only a matter of time before the alarm clock wars return I think, this is all threads like this will eventually lead to, oh well np.
 

AtomicBattleHamster

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Makarilli said:
And so what ? we have the 3 strength relics. Beat that. Spineless Mids grabbed it during night. Want it ? Then use lesser words and come take it. When or how I don`t care. Pull your thumb out of your droolling weeping mouth and go do something about it. Lets see some action from your side instead but I bet you can`t

Same goes for keeps. It is a game but it is a game about a war between 3 realms. If you can`t stand people grabbing your keep or relics during day or night find another game.
If I choose to get up 0400 in the morning to play this game that is my choice, if you want to sleep that is yours but don`t come around whine about it.

Aside from the baiting, this man has a point. A very good point.
 

Gordonax

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Makarilli said:
And so what ? we have the 3 strength relics. Beat that. Spineless Mids grabbed it during night. Want it ? Then use lesser words and come take it. When or how I don`t care. Pull your thumb out of your droolling weeping mouth and go do something about it. Lets see some action from your side instead but I bet you can`t

Oh dear. You miss the point by a wide margin. It's not that Albs couldn't do an alarm clock raid: check the populations at 3am, and you'll still find we outnumber you significantly. It's that it leads to... more alarm clock raids. It means that people who aren't able to get up at 4am - I can't, I work for a living - never get to go on a relic raid, because no one will bother to invest the time and effort to plan a relic raid in prime time when they know that some bunch of insomniacs/students/unemployed Swedes (delete as appropriate) will have pinched them back again by 5am the next day.

I'm not whining *at Mids* for doing an alarm clock raid. It's not against the rules of the game, although I don't see what the fun is. I don't enjoy PvE much, and to me bashing a load of gaurds is little more than that. But I refuse to take part in alarm clock raids because ultimately they rob a lot of people of the chance to take part in a relic raid, which is a key part of the game.

Makarilli said:
Same goes for keeps. It is a game but it is a game about a war between 3 realms. If you can`t stand people grabbing your keep or relics during day or night find another game.
If I choose to get up 0400 in the morning to play this game that is my choice, if you want to sleep that is yours but don`t come around whine about it.

The reason that a group of Mids (NOT, by any means, all) got riled up enough to do an alarm clock raid last time was because they whined and whined about how it was impossible for them to do a primetime one (after precisely two badly planned attempts). Ultimately, Albion proved it had the people and the planning ability to do a primetime raid: those in Midgard who I KNOW have the ability to do that didn't get the chance to show what they could do, because of the impatience of a few players for whom the end result (the relics) was more important than how they achieved it.

I'm long past this argument, but seriously if you want to try baiting people, you really should do it with a little more thought.
 

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Smilewhenyousaythat said:
Its only just come to your notice that mid has no honour or integrity.

Fotm whining hypocrit realm that all asked for alarmclocks for Xmas.

actually i wanted a radar + money cheat + dps 30 cheat and a good nice alarmclock u know!!!!!!

oh wait an insta alb kill macro to ... oh wait i have that already, its my assist macro :m00:
 

Vodkafairy

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Makarilli said:
And so what ? we have the 3 strength relics. Beat that. Spineless Mids grabbed it during night. Want it ? Then use lesser words and come take it. When or how I don`t care. Pull your thumb out of your droolling weeping mouth and go do something about it. Lets see some action from your side instead but I bet you can`t.

fyi albs tried very fucking hard to get the relics back, but the server couldn't handle it
 

judas

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is this a whine against keep take? o_O
not much elese then keep guards online at 3am in the first place so if you dont have df you dont have that many options...
 

Drav

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Vodkafairy said:
fyi albs tried very fucking hard to get the relics back, but the server couldn't handle it

So true any Albs wanna test server upgrade around 8pm tonight? Lets all go Odins and see if it holds.... funny how Odins seems to crash the server but we had the same amount going for pow relics in Hib a couple of weeks ago and it didnt even lag (oh and btw this aint a flame, just kind of an observation)....
 

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Vodkafairy said:
fyi albs tried very fucking hard to get the relics back, but the server couldn't handle it
Thanks m8 ;)

<to the middi whiner in the begining>
Albs tried as hard as possible to get the Strength rellics back, but we didnt succede, the server crashed so our suprise was gone after that Mid defended good.. and ehy we still didnt do an Alarm clock raid :clap:

So please dont give Albs any crap about NOT HAVING ANY HONOUR AND PRIDE!
 

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