Sad times for all - sucky 3am Raids

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Ellegon

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What sort of people wait until everyone is in bed to start taking keeps. If Albion were to do the same to you guys we'd be called all the names under the sun and accused of cheating and being lame - but i suppose what you did was concidered tactical and skillfull.

I have noticed that over the past months there isnt a day goes by when after midnight some group of hibs / mids starts an attack on one of our keeps.

Im not saying all are like this - it is obvious that there are still some respectable honourable guilds out there that launch their attacks in hours where defence can be rallied and i take my hat off to them in respect.

Last night at 3am an attacked was launched on one keep owned by the guild i am in - we had 8 people online at the time - of that 5 were active players and the whole of alb had less that 100 people on.

Why does DF mean so much to you people - is it the i must be the L33Test on my server and have as much cash as posible.

I know the game is all about being the most powerfull Realm and all that - but the next time a midnight sneak attack is launched - dont blame the attackers - look to your own people - its no longer in our hands.

Ellegon Lionheart.
 

Asq

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You mean attacks like those that albs perform on Crau at 7.30 in the morning? :p
 

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Ellegon said:
What sort of people wait until everyone is in bed to start taking keeps

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yaruar

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Maybe they want df or similar, or are bored and have a few groups together.

Most of the time it's boring taking alb keeps as you guys have no pride and don't bother trying to take them back unlike the mids who still do have some pride in their frontiers.

TBH i wish we'd just let you take the relics back just so you get off your arses and start defending your frontier and make life interesting again.
 

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We had to go defend our keep (bledmeer) last night at around 1am since albs were knocking at the door. Wasnt over until 2am or so when i would rather have been sleeping. I dont blame anyone tho, since we had claimed the keep it was our responsiblity to go defend (we did get help from other guilds tho :) ) and it *is* a 24/7 game.

But i do agree that very late raids kinda miss the purpose of rvr since you, most likely, wont get nice/fair fights.
 

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maybe they fancied farming in df or had a raid of sum sorts planned in df..
just a thought
 

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yaruar said:
Most of the time it's boring taking alb keeps as you guys have no pride and don't bother trying to take them back unlike the mids who still do have some pride in their frontiers.

You mean the same Mid pride that took the strength relics through an alarm clock raid? :puke:
 

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I TOTALLY AGREE, THE SERVERS SHOULD BE SHUT DOWN AT 11PM AND SWITCHED BACK ON A 8AM THE FOLLOWING MORNING. RAIDS THAT HAPPEN WHILE I AM ASLEEP WILL-NOT-BE-TOLLERATED!!!!!!!!... wait, is my caps lock on? Sorry. ;)
 

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24/7 game.
Deal with it, or quit.
imo.
Go take relics 3am if u wish. I don't care. You don't follow the clock in war.
 

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You referring to Hurbury last night? Its ok imo, as albs won :D, and I needed something to do :p But really....keeps are only fun when theres defenders, and is there really that likely to be a decent number at 3am?
 

kenid

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I have dealt with it.
Just don't come here talking about Mid pride and wishing for keep take/defences when clearly all Mids care about is having that extra dmg % and not the fight/battle itself.
 

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Ellegon said:
What sort of people wait until everyone is in bed to start taking keeps. If Albion were to do the same to you guys we'd be called all the names under the sun and accused of cheating and being lame - but i suppose what you did was concidered tactical and skillfull.

I have noticed that over the past months there isnt a day goes by when after midnight some group of hibs / mids starts an attack on one of our keeps.

Im not saying all are like this - it is obvious that there are still some respectable honourable guilds out there that launch their attacks in hours where defence can be rallied and i take my hat off to them in respect.

Last night at 3am an attacked was launched on one keep owned by the guild i am in - we had 8 people online at the time - of that 5 were active players and the whole of alb had less that 100 people on.

Why does DF mean so much to you people - is it the i must be the L33Test on my server and have as much cash as posible.

I know the game is all about being the most powerfull Realm and all that - but the next time a midnight sneak attack is launched - dont blame the attackers - look to your own people - its no longer in our hands.

Ellegon Lionheart.

Next time I'll ask, OK?

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kenid said:
I have dealt with it.
Just don't come here talking about Mid pride and wishing for keep take/defences when clearly all Mids care about is having that extra dmg % and not the fight/battle itself.

Stop stereotyping, you think all mids are like that for the sole fact they "are mids" ? Stupid.

Im not saying all are like this - it is obvious that there are still some respectable honourable guilds out there that launch their attacks in hours where defence can be rallied and i take my hat off to them in respect.

Hearts of Fire has organised several df retakes at a decent time in the past week(s) and NEVER has alb put up a decent defence. When did you try and take them back? That's right, several hours after everyone left the zone out of boredom... The word hypocrit comes to mind.

That aside, who do you think you are to tell people how and where to play? If people are still up at x am and there are no rr2 roleplaying wizards to farm rps off like yourself they can do what they like. Sure, you can have your opinion about it, but you cannot compare it to the opinions of an entire realm nor can you judge what is right and what is wrong.
 

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Nalistah said:
You don't follow the clock in war.

Neither do you stare at a computer screen while moving a mouse to get a load of pixels running around biffing things with a sword.

:cheers:
 

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Vodkafairy said:
Stop stereotyping, you think all mids are like that for the sole fact they "are mids" ? Stupid.

Stop being reasonable, goddamn you!!! ;)
 

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Hi there, my guild is probably resposible, heres my oppinion:-

My guild likes to take keeps (mainly for df, but sometimes just for fun), any time of day, morning noon or night. We have a lot of players that play very late at night, so im afraid we will take keeps at that time. (We can hardly tell the people that log on from 24:00 ->6:00 that they cant take keeps or have DF now can we?).

You might only have 8 people on (probably about the same as us), but you should be in an alliance, have friends, use broad channels, chat groups, and mount a defence. Hell you could upgrade your keeps or make the doors a bit stronger.

Just be thankfull we will never go for your relics at this time.

We would gofor mid keeps, but they defend them a lot and very skillfully, perhaps if like the middies you put up some resistance to 8 brehons and couple of siegerams we would go get farmed somewhere else :)
 

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kenid said:
You mean the same Mid pride that took the strength relics through an alarm clock raid? :puke:

*yawn*

Is that never going to get old.

I won't even bring up albs organising raids when SI was out and in a patch the Aegir teleporter was bugged and every mid at the time was bound there making it a 30 odd minute journey to even get to the frontier.

We all use tactics to our advantage. We all also deal with it. Lets not forget that the only way that albs ever win is through superior numbers ;)
 

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yaruar said:
TBH i wish we'd just let you take the relics back just so you get off your arses and start defending your frontier and make life interesting again.

Yes, let Albs take back the relics and start defending their frontier again, then mids can raid them at 5am 'cos it too hard to take them when there are people online :D

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never heard about that Aegir portal bug... but there have been alb raids when mids have been in TG (But then again it was a sunday evening - what sunday evening back then _didn't_ have a TG raid? or a Sidi raid for that matter)

Yaruar - a better defence would be "not everyone in midgard supported the 3am raid" which is what you said at the time.

Yes everyone is free to use tactics, but some tactics still leave room for fun in the game ;)

keep takes in the middle of the night are fair enough, generally the populations are equally small on both sides of the fight (whether anyone on the defending side can be bothered to go out to the frontier is different though - or whether anyone hears about it).

Relic Raids in the middle of the night generally involve an inordinate amount of people for that time of day logging in and swiping relics... and piss off a lot more people than just one guild.

Or in short: 3am keep takes are a bit lame but understandable, 3am relic raids are incredibly lame ;)
 

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Flimgoblin said:
never heard about that Aegir portal bug... but there have been alb raids when mids have been in TG (But then again it was a sunday evening - what sunday evening back then _didn't_ have a TG raid? or a Sidi raid for that matter)

Yaruar - a better defence would be "not everyone in midgard supported the 3am raid" which is what you said at the time.

Yes everyone is free to use tactics, but some tactics still leave room for fun in the game ;)

I don't disagree, just getting pissed off with the constant alarmclock rr thing that comes out every time fighting in the frontiers is mentioned. I didn't personally go on the alarm clock raids but mainly because I'm not getting out of bed before lunchtime at the weekends for anyone or anything ;)

All realms have used something for an unfair advantage to try to get relics before whether it be petspam, huge numbers, stealthzerg, login raids or even alarmclock raids (although I see little difference beween a completely non leaked login raid and alarmclock raid as it only takes 10 to 15 minutes to get the doors down no with TOA items and abilities which isn't enough time to get a defence force to the keep)
 

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Ellegon said:
What sort of people wait until everyone is in bed to start taking keeps. If Albion were to do the same to you guys we'd be called all the names under the sun and accused of cheating and being lame - but i suppose what you did was concidered tactical and skillfull.

I have noticed that over the past months there isnt a day goes by when after midnight some group of hibs / mids starts an attack on one of our keeps.

Im not saying all are like this - it is obvious that there are still some respectable honourable guilds out there that launch their attacks in hours where defence can be rallied and i take my hat off to them in respect.

Last night at 3am an attacked was launched on one keep owned by the guild i am in - we had 8 people online at the time - of that 5 were active players and the whole of alb had less that 100 people on.

Why does DF mean so much to you people - is it the i must be the L33Test on my server and have as much cash as posible.

I know the game is all about being the most powerfull Realm and all that - but the next time a midnight sneak attack is launched - dont blame the attackers - look to your own people - its no longer in our hands.

Ellegon Lionheart.

Like its any suprise after the last relic raid?

Not that I give a damn about keeps, but really its no suprise, you can't expect a realm with no honour to act with any.
 

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kenid said:
I have dealt with it.
Just don't come here talking about Mid pride and wishing for keep take/defences when clearly all Mids care about is having that extra dmg % and not the fight/battle itself.

so what, u guys are already 6 months or more ? whining about the same topic .. i think u are the sad one here :fluffle:
 

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Ellegon said:
What sort of people wait until everyone is in bed to start taking keeps. If Albion were to do the same to you guys we'd be called all the names under the sun and accused of cheating and being lame - but i suppose what you did was concidered tactical and skillfull.

I have noticed that over the past months there isnt a day goes by when after midnight some group of hibs / mids starts an attack on one of our keeps.

Im not saying all are like this - it is obvious that there are still some respectable honourable guilds out there that launch their attacks in hours where defence can be rallied and i take my hat off to them in respect.

Last night at 3am an attacked was launched on one keep owned by the guild i am in - we had 8 people online at the time - of that 5 were active players and the whole of alb had less that 100 people on.

Why does DF mean so much to you people - is it the i must be the L33Test on my server and have as much cash as posible.

I know the game is all about being the most powerfull Realm and all that - but the next time a midnight sneak attack is launched - dont blame the attackers - look to your own people - its no longer in our hands.

Ellegon Lionheart.


such roleplayer. Whats the diffrent from 5fgs albs takeing dc, crim and bolg after mids have gone to bed becous they have nothing to do.
 

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Calo said:
so what, u guys are already 6 months or more ? whining about the same topic .. i think u are the sad one here :fluffle:

And just how long have people been whining about DragonFang?

Yaruar - Your right, but mentioning pride will trigger the "Alarm clock raid" posts as that has been branded as both lame and very far from pride.
 

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Nalistah said:
24/7 game....You don't follow the clock in war.

Game / War... Game/War... Game/War...

...and so it was that Nalistah's last grip on the difference between game and reality slipped away as he finally wanked himself into oblivion :touch:
 

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Vodkafairy said:
Stop stereotyping, you think all mids are like that for the sole fact they "are mids" ? Stupid.

The alarm clock raid showed that 200+ retarded Mids are like that yes.
And the consequent Mid defense of the strength relics showed that around 400 Mids supported the attacks (as they showed up to defend, causing the server to crash).
Mids are spineless cheating cowards who probably all also used to cheat when they played Unreal, CS or any other online game.
Regards, Glottis
 

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Glottis said:
The alarm clock raid showed that 200+ retarded Mids are like that yes.
And the consequent Mid defense of the strength relics showed that around 400 Mids supported the attacks (as they showed up to defend, causing the server to crash).
Mids are spineless cheating cowards who probably all also used to cheat when they played Unreal, CS or any other online game.
Regards, Glottis

could you stop with the bullshit?
 

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