RVR Knights of the realm? :O

[Dukat]

Hey all

Was pondering this the other night.

Assuming people from all three realms are eligible for the title of "Knight of the Realm", and the requirements for such a title are as they would be traditionally, for example one source I looked at said:

The Knights were men of courage, honor, dignity, courtesy, and nobleness.

OK. So heres what I'm looking for, people that you think have the above qualities in above average quantities, people who're not one to run away from a fight often, people who know what honour and respect is(eg. not the RP horny/zerging type) people who do not go around adding on every fight they see and who value the true fun of a challenging duel.

This is not one of these 'top 10 best plahplah' threads, the people chosen might not be the highest RP/hour earners on the server, just as long as they meet the criteria mentioned above.

I write this in the hope seeing a few good examples might lead certain members of the RVR community to follow suit in the future.

For each nomination you should also state the reasons that you suggested this person.

 

[eggy]

people who know what honour and respect is(eg. not the RP horny/zerging type) people who do not go around adding on every fight they see and who value the true fun of a challenging duel.

In roleplaying terms, a player of "honour" will always help his realm mates, put his own life before that of others. ie he will assist any fellow realm players on killing enemies and outnumber the hib and mid hordes to crush them before they get anywhere near Alb soil.

So

 

[Dukat]

In roleplaying terms, a player of "honour" will always help his realm mates, put his own life before that of others. ie he will assist any fellow realm players on killing enemies and outnumber the hib and mid hordes to crush them before they get anywhere near Alb soil.

So

Depends how you define honour and respect in the game I guess.

I think you could guess that I meant honour and respect in a different way from the way that you said it.

You have a point in a way, but I disagree.

The "outnumber the hib and mid hordes" part. I see DAoC as a kind of 'civil war', both from the roleplay point of view (before arthurs death all three realms were part of the kingdom), and also from the point of view that at the end of the day we're all just players trying to have fun. The honour and respect can still be gained through traditional means of fighting the enemy, but doing it with a certain amount of honour and respect.

For example: I was in a 1 on 1 with some hib a few days ago, three mids come out of nowhere and attack us both, me and the hib stop our fight and face the mids together, but it looks like we're going to lose. Then a NS joins the fight and helps us kill the mids, so we end up winning.

The actions of the NS can be seen as honourable because in that situation he did, as you say; "put his own life before that of others".

This is the sort of thing I am talking about.

 

[eggy]

Yes but you're talking about placing a roleplaying title in a roleplaying game. You can't therefore impose requirements that the person "mustn't add" as this would be against the idea of the game itself.

Just imo.

 

[Calo]

Eggy has a point there.

 

[Dukat]

Yes but you're talking about placing a roleplaying title in a roleplaying game. You can't therefore impose requirements that the person "mustn't add" as this would be against the idea of the game itself.

Just imo.

Again, you have made a good point I'm not so much talking about placing the title in the game, I was more thinking of just chatting about it on these message boards in an informal manner, hence the lack of numbers in the post.

Now that you mention it though, the idea of adding such a title to the game would be interesting, but to me I think it should be given out only as a special case - the problem with this game as I see it is that at the moment titles are very easy to get, almost everyone has a title in the game of some sort, while its good that everyone can get a piece of the action, it tends to make it more about numbers than actual facts.

For example the solo kills title, sorcs and warlocks should have no problem in raking these in by the hundreds without much in the way of trouble, however non-zerging stealthers and visible solo tanks will find this harder to come by.

I just thought the idea of an accolade for people such as remajedy/kagato/vf and other solo'ers out there might encourage others out there to aspire to more than just getting a high rp/hour count.

ah well, it was just an idea

 

[Caylan Raal]

There's a few that spring to mind, and i dont solo/play for as long or as often as i once did, but Wings(inf) & Belxavier-correct spelling?(hunter) stands out as i recall consistent fair play in regards to the "un-official standard of solo etiquette" from them towards myself and others

As i said there are others but i cant recall who at the minute.

 

[Infanity]

In roleplaying terms, a player of "honour" will always help his realm mates, put his own life before that of others. ie he will assist any fellow realm players on killing enemies and outnumber the hib and mid hordes to crush them before they get anywhere near Alb soil.

So

Hold on...

Please....

ITS SYNERGY!

 

[Kerith]

Yes but you're talking about placing a roleplaying title in a roleplaying game. You can't therefore impose requirements that the person "mustn't add" as this would be against the idea of the game itself.

Just imo.

the example of the ns i think was showing that adding depends on the context, by adding (in the derogatory sense) i think he means 2fg seeing a duel between 2 soloers and going 'LOL KILLLLLL!'

 

[Anarawan]

add ftw!!!

 

[Dukat]

the example of the ns i think was showing that adding depends on the context, by adding (in the derogatory sense) i think he means 2fg seeing a duel between 2 soloers and going 'LOL KILLLLLL!'

Yea thats exactly what I meant

 

[Chronictank]

maybe for completing the most realm missions or something would be more appropriate

 

[eggy]

Hold on...

Please....

ITS SYNERGY!

No, it's Eggy.

I'm in no way condoning or recommending so called "adding", so let's not go down that path of whine. I am simply saying that to define a roleplaying title in a non-roleplaying way is pretty meaningless.

 

[Kerith]

well theres a title for solo kills, this isn't so different, tho its alot more vague as it depends on player mentality and perspective on rvr

 

[santacruz]

So what about attacking low rrs? Loads of high RR-people attacks low RR people, thats neither courageous or honorable. Tbh I don't think it would work since some people think it's bad to add while some don't etc.

 

[Dukat]

So what about attacking low rrs? Loads of high RR-people attacks low RR people, thats neither courageous or honorable.

Again it depends on the context.

A high rr scout attacking a low RR NS isnt as unbalanced a fight as you make out. A high RR armsman attacking a warlock of any RR would be pretty couragous tbh.

 

[Alme]

I read some magazine which had an article that was partly about knights. In there it said they would never attack an enemy who had their back turned, had no wpns, who couldnt defend them selfs (ie no adding!) or simply sucked too much. It didnt exactly say suck to much but thats what they meant, couldnt translate it better

 

[ebenezer]

Again, you have made a good point I'm not so much talking about placing the title in the game, I was more thinking of just chatting about it on these message boards in an informal manner, hence the lack of numbers in the post.

Now that you mention it though, the idea of adding such a title to the game would be interesting, but to me I think it should be given out only as a special case - the problem with this game as I see it is that at the moment titles are very easy to get, almost everyone has a title in the game of some sort, while its good that everyone can get a piece of the action, it tends to make it more about numbers than actual facts.

For example the solo kills title, sorcs and warlocks should have no problem in raking these in by the hundreds without much in the way of trouble, however non-zerging stealthers and visible solo tanks will find this harder to come by.

I just thought the idea of an accolade for people such as remajedy/kagato/vf and other solo'ers out there might encourage others out there to aspire to more than just getting a high rp/hour count.

ah well, it was just an idea

i agree here...remajedy should get a title. Knight of most childish behaviour...or knight of the f.....ck word
Cant think of anything less honerable in a roleplaying (or rl) pioint of view then screaming FO retards to every other player that so much gets near HIS(ffs) choosen enemies
Other then that dukat...its a nice point ur making
over and out...

 

[illu]

Hmmmm wouldn't it be great if there was some sort of honour system in the game that had no impact on you apart from a title you could get :>

After you die, a pop-up box should come up and say

Did you die honourably? Yes/No

Yes Path
The person that kills you gets 1 honour point.

Your honour points start at 0 and can go positive or negative.

+10 Padwan
+100 Nice Guy
+500 Viscount of the Realm
+1000 Earl of the Realm
+2000 Duke of the Realm
+3000 Knight of the Realm

No Path
The person that kills you gets -1 honour point.

-10 Peon
-100 Insubordinate
-500 Arse
-1000 No Friends
-2000 Zerging Twat
-3000 Adding Mofo Lowlife Scumbag
-4000 Warlock / ML9 Pet Class

:>

Oli - Illu

 

[Dukat]

EDIT: just reread the post, didnt see the honour point was meant to be for the person that kills you, makes more sense now

Nice idea

 

[Speedr]

Nice post Illu, rep for j00

 

[Kerith]

Hmmmm wouldn't it be great if there was some sort of honour system in the game that had no impact on you apart from a title you could get :>

After you die, a pop-up box should come up and say

Did you die honourably? Yes/No

Yes Path
The person that kills you gets 1 honour point.

Your honour points start at 0 and can go positive or negative.

+10 Padwan
+100 Nice Guy
+500 Viscount of the Realm
+1000 Earl of the Realm
+2000 Duke of the Realm
+3000 Knight of the Realm

No Path
The person that kills you gets -1 honour point.

-10 Peon
-100 Insubordinate
-500 Arse
-1000 No Friends
-2000 Zerging Twat
-3000 Adding Mofo Lowlife Scumbag
-4000 Warlock / ML9 Pet Class

:>

Oli - Illu

nice idea but i can see alot of ppl just pickin no to spite ppl

 

[LordjOX]

keriiithhh your siiig

 

[Gibbo]

keriiithhh your siiig

gets him a rep point

 

[Kerith]

keriiithhh your siiig

AEHheheHEehehe OLE xDxD forca barca

 

[santacruz]

Again it depends on the context.

A high rr scout attacking a low RR NS isnt as unbalanced a fight as you make out. A high RR armsman attacking a warlock of any RR would be pretty couragous tbh.

It's by no mean an unbalanced fight, I'm a low rr scout(rr3) and constantly get jumped by high rr nightshades and sbs and I have absolutely no chance and many of these are probably ppl that whine about adding and saying how unfair it is etc when it's just as unfair to attack low rr people if you are high rr.

 

[ebenezer]

It's by no mean an unbalanced fight, I'm a low rr scout(rr3) and constantly get jumped by high rr nightshades and sbs and I have absolutely no chance and many of these are probably ppl that whine about adding and saying how unfair it is etc when it's just as unfair to attack low rr people if you are high rr.

agreed, but some people fail to see the logic in it. A common fault in daoc is also to compare every class against any other class and think they all should compete on even terms
The game isnt designed that way at all. The classes are clearly(most of them) desinged and balanced to fit into certain group setups and the compete . or if its not to take advantage of certain situasions or circumstances and then use their abilities to win. I rip most stealthers around my rr to pieces with my hero, on other hand i cant kill a fly in 1 vs 1 with my ranger
if you are gonna compare a class 1 vs one...take exact same rr and compare a heavy tank vs a heavy tank for example...or maybe a melee stealther against a melee stealther for example.....

 

[Dukat]

It's by no mean an unbalanced fight, I'm a low rr scout(rr3) and constantly get jumped by high rr nightshades and sbs and I have absolutely no chance and many of these are probably ppl that whine about adding and saying how unfair it is etc when it's just as unfair to attack low rr people if you are high rr.

Please, read what I said.

Again it depends on the context.

A high rr scout attacking a low RR NS isnt as unbalanced a fight as you make out. A high RR armsman attacking a warlock of any RR would be pretty couragous tbh.

I said a high RR Scout attacking a low RR Nightshade.

The nightshade, being naturally strong in melee has an advantage to equal the abilities and advantages given to the higher RR scout, who is natural weak in melee.

In a fight where RR's are equal you would expect the scout to lose, however if the scout is a higher RR then the fight gets a little more interesting - just because the scout is a higher RR than the NS it does not mean that the scout will have an easy fight (far from it), however the way you talked in the previous post you made it out to sound like any high RR char attacking a low RR char is dishonourable.

Realm Ranks are not the be-all and end-all of a fight.

 

[illu]

It's by no mean an unbalanced fight, I'm a low rr scout(rr3) and constantly get jumped by high rr nightshades and sbs and I have absolutely no chance and many of these are probably ppl that whine about adding and saying how unfair it is etc when it's just as unfair to attack low rr people if you are high rr.

Like ebenezer said, each class has good points and bad points, some are group based, some are more solo based.
It's true that beating on a lowbie archer is a bit mean, but we all need the RPs :> Everyone has been low RR at one stage, and have gone through the mill of being beaten to a pulp over and over and over, but eventually you get through it and start to win more than you lose.
Archers and Warlocks probably get it worse than most because most fights, they "help", which is fair enough as they need their RPs too, and that is what the class was designed to do (how else is an archer meant to get RPs if not to put an arrow in every enemy near them?).
So yes, high RR vs low RR is a bit cruel, but your time will come.

But I'm sure a lot of people feel warm inside when they kill the enemy they are fighting and have noticed that they have had arrows shooting in their butt most of the fight, they face the archer, run up to them and kill them :> (doesn't happen a lot because of the archers tools but sometimes :>)

I know I will have more mercy when I reach RR11 :> Hell, there are some fights I leave people if they are especially low RR and I've already killed them 1 or 2 times, and then I think to myself after - why? I need to be meaner :> And sorry to all lowbie casters I attack, but squishy lowbie casters are our main source of RP food stealthers need to live on :/

Oli - Illu

 

[Varna]

The term 'honour' in this game is something which is used far too often. If you wanna leave some rr2 pleb to live, then so be it - don't expect a pat on the back for everytime you do it and get a title saying your a pussy.