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cougar said:
you deserve better, you should start a wizard/english highschool.

I did, but the wizards sometimes Revolt, and mock me too :( Like Achiles' understudy.
 

flex

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Krane said:
PPL who took time and effort to get their toa gear done should deserve a fair adventage over the ppl who didnt.

If you rvr and not gimp around in emain with zerg you should easily get 10k rps/hour which with a 5 hours of play (which is doable besides work/school) per day should be 50k a day = 350k/ week.

I understand alb grps have a hard time recently, cause the old setups dont really work, but why not try new ones instead of all the whine?

Fail to c your point sorry..

and u made 350k when u were in alb every week ?

don't get a smartmouth now that couldn't compete in albion & joined the easymode realm.
 

cougar

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must suck for krane to get all that easymode whine back :(
 

Freppe

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I disagree with ya krane there. Theres numerous of things that affect albion and their rvr.

1. I first would say the zerg and the adds. For a regular FG going hunting other fg's often gets add's = less rps and often gets a zerg in their back which means even less rps.
2. They dont got a zerg to farm like you, therefor its harder for them to get those 50k on 5 hours. They would have to spend 10 hours per day to get that perhaps. Why?
a: As you all know albion is a bad state of rvr atm, basicly cus theyre having a hard time to adapt, and much worse classes than mids/hibs in some ways.
b: A alb fg that knows what they do wouldnt have a match against NP/Dh or any of the other dedicated guilds even if themself would be dedicated. So what will their enemies be that they get RPs from?
It will be Mid random grps since lets face it, Hibs randoms dont go rvr on daily bases. Only TD 2fg which aint rly that easy for a alb fg. So lets see, mid randoms is the ones to face, if you'd play in mid you would know, there isnt much RANDOM mids.
How in hell should they get those 50k rps then? Zerging? Adding? Thats 2 better alternatives than going a fg and get farmed.
Enough about that..
3. Gearing up: All of you know its much easier to get "good", "gr8", "overpowered" gear in hib than any of the other realms. Sure alb may have it easier than mid, but both are no way even CLOSE to how fucking easy it is to get gear in Hib. So your saying krane, if you spend a lil' time on gettin gear you might actually have some advantage dont do it. If you spend 10mins on smth. Albs/mids need to spend 5hours. The gap in pve between these realms are enormous basicly cus of animists. Imo all that you've said is basicly from a clueless mind.
 

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[TB] Benedictine said:
I just wasted precious seconds of my life viewing your past posts to see if you are as obnoxious as I think you are. I couldn't find many that weren't derogatory in some way.

Do yourself a favour and think positive, happy thoughts before you turn into a twisted old IT manager.
lol

I dont waste time in the slightest, I enjoy every moment of it. I suggest you do the same.

You wasted many more second contructing a post that essentially said "OMG I was killed in DF you lot are bastards".....

Think happy thoughts yourself, remember its only a game, before you become a bigger rmoaner than you already seem to be.
 

Tay

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Asha said:
You know you have a good dictionary when it uses the word you're looking up to define the word your looking up.
Touche
 

Konah

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Krane said:
While ignoring your personal insults.
yes ignore them, far less painful than facing the truth isn't it :kissit:

Krane said:
let me give you some merc tips: u still cant deal damage thru bodyguard with melee..
is that a fact? well i never... :(

Krane said:
If you stand there trying to spam styles you ll just die to pbae like kenny.
i die to pbaoe less, far less, now than i did pre-toa, sorry :fluffle:
 

katt!

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Konah said:
ToA rvr is changing and evolving almost on a daily basis.

It isn't as hard to compete as it first appears. The first 2 weeks of ToA i figured we were d00med... but now with the right grp we can beat all hib/mid groups at least 50/50 (except maybe Nolby/DH)

ToA RvR = Learning Mode
so basically you can farm useless randoms on a 50/50 basis? :(
 

Tay

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Clipse said:
Don't wanna split hairs, but 99% of the use of the word "Irony" is used incorrectly, something is Ironic, if it has 2 meanings. This quote is not ironic :



Ironic, no, sarcastic, yes. If I was to say, "Krane has improved vastly since rerolling" that has 2 meanings, No1 Krane has improved in skillz, No2 New skillz have improved Krane.
Erm, could be more also,

3. You could be lying, which could be ironic.
4. You could be sarcastic

1/2 empty 1/2 full.
 

Krane

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Freppe said:
I disagree with ya krane there. Theres numerous of things that affect albion and their rvr.

1. I first would say the zerg and the adds. For a regular FG going hunting other fg's often gets add's = less rps and often gets a zerg in their back which means even less rps.
2. They dont got a zerg to farm like you, therefor its harder for them to get those 50k on 5 hours. They would have to spend 10 hours per day to get that perhaps. Why?
a: As you all know albion is a bad state of rvr atm, basicly cus theyre having a hard time to adapt, and much worse classes than mids/hibs in some ways.
b: A alb fg that knows what they do wouldnt have a match against NP/Dh or any of the other dedicated guilds even if themself would be dedicated. So what will their enemies be that they get RPs from?
It will be Mid random grps since lets face it, Hibs randoms dont go rvr on daily bases. Only TD 2fg which aint rly that easy for a alb fg. So lets see, mid randoms is the ones to face, if you'd play in mid you would know, there isnt much RANDOM mids.
How in hell should they get those 50k rps then? Zerging? Adding? Thats 2 better alternatives than going a fg and get farmed.
Enough about that..
3. Gearing up: All of you know its much easier to get "good", "gr8", "overpowered" gear in hib than any of the other realms. Sure alb may have it easier than mid, but both are no way even CLOSE to how fucking easy it is to get gear in Hib. So your saying krane, if you spend a lil' time on gettin gear you might actually have some advantage dont do it. If you spend 10mins on smth. Albs/mids need to spend 5hours. The gap in pve between these realms are enormous basicly cus of animists. Imo all that you've said is basicly from a clueless mind.

Let me answer your points:

1. After playing both realms i can say there is a bigger chance of friendly adds in albion but not considerably..and as a hib u often fight against the odds (meaning at least twice your numbers) and get zerged way to many times by cfh or emain warder cg so it pretty much evens out in the end.

2. MAybe you dont have warder zerg, but there are still more than enuff targets to kill..ofc thats only if you dont suck. We made 250k/week with the sorc debuff grp back than and we didnt play 10 hours/day. 10k/hour IS doable even in albion.
a. if you didnt adapt its cause you suck..toa is out for what...3 months? both other realms adapted...why didnt you?
b. there are several grps in emain besides those 2, i meet em reguraly..DH aint playing for weeks now (gone lyonesse) and NP not out all day. Sorry but this is just a nice try for an excuse. Dont expect to get rps if you cant beat anything without a zerg tough..

About the gear: i spent 2 months non stop to get my toa gear done and i am still refining my template. I hardly rvred before it was done. Yes i agree with you it is easier as a hib but its far from a 15 mins work if you want a decent template. Altough again, i agree this involves using your brain again i admit. Just look at HB and how they did their whole TOA and artifacts and learn...

Its the easyest way to keep sucking and blame it all on animists and overpowered classes. The harder part is to put an effort in it, adapt and come out as a winner in the end.

I have made 4.5 million rps on several albion characters over 18 months of playing. After reading what you posted i think it is you who needs to get a clue about albion, not me.
 

katt!

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Krane said:
Let me answer your points:a. if you didnt adapt its cause you suck..toa is out for what...3 months? both other realms adapted...why didnt you?

Hib did such strong adaption.. no wait, they didnt.
basically same group setup as the last 2 years.

Krane said:
MAybe you dont have warder zerg, but there are still more than enuff targets to kill..ofc thats only if you dont suck. We made 250k/week with the sorc debuff grp back than and we didnt play 10 hours/day. 10k/hour IS doable even in albion.
We've had lots and lots and lots of days in emain where we killed everything and STILL didn't make close to 10k/h, don't even fucking deny how much easier to get rp as a non-alb realm on excal. Probably even better for mid as the brehonzerg is much more common than vaktenzerg.
 

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I know it was only a few minutes, but I logged on my cleric last night to clean up my account and I decided to see what emain was like. It was sad.

1fg of mixed guilds. This time last year there would have been 4/5 guild groups running + xxx random groups. Only alb death msg from Piton soloing NSs :x

Stepping out of apk you find 2 fg of hibs, I don't think together but passing apk every few minutes hoping to find something. And I counted about 5 Alb stealthers at the foot of apk lol. That is the ones I saw. What's with that? :)

The fg of Albs finally ventured forth and within 2 minutes was wiped by Hibs. I couldn't see numbers, but looked more than a FG. Albs were more than a FG because of stealthers + randoms (inc me) from APK.

So you can continue to claim Alb isn't majorly hurting atm, but you'll pretty much be arguing with yourself.
 

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Krane said:
PPL who took time and effort to get their toa gear done should deserve a fair adventage over the ppl who didnt

Where did I say otherwise? I was talking about belittling the average player who reaches rr6/rr7 because it's so easy... This idea that rr6+ can be done in 3-4 weeks is bollox for 95% of the population.

Krane said:
If you rvr and not gimp around in emain with zerg you should easily get 10k rps/hour which with a 5 hours of play (which is doable besides work/school) per day should be 50k a day = 350k/ week.

A very small proportion of players can sustain that over a period of time. For most people that just aint gonna happen. Especially in Albion.

Krane said:
I understand alb grps have a hard time recently, cause the old setups dont really work, but why not try new ones instead of all the whine?

Well fuck me, that has got to be your best comment. Sure we'll try new set ups (no one thought of that yet), because thats what you did right? Oh wait, you bypassed the new set up bit and just went straight for trying a new realm.

Krane said:
Fail to c your point sorry

That's because in Krane's World, anyone who doesn't get 350k rps a week must suck. Maybe when you grow up you'll "c" my point.
 

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Krane to sort this. HIB HAS NEVER ADAPTED. They have changed and tried different setups occasionally. Like BaF who started the TANK grp in hib/exc, then ojaas and sum LA ppl played it abit. But STILL was the same GRP in VGN and all the other guilds. Dont fucking tell me that hibs had adapted since they havent. They have used the same setup for years. So go blow yourself if you think hibs have adapted. Its quite sad to see what happens once again. The "leetness" fucks you up. Was the same before, some patches ago when you still were a alb. Hibs killed everything and all thought they were SO UBER AND ADAPTED AND ALL but didnt. Then the patch after they get some hard enemies and ppl start qq'ing. Quiting the game or taking a break. Very sad to see. Mid is the realm that has adapted every patch, hib havent. I dno about albs since i havent cared to bother about it.

Once again, there isnt much targets for a alb fg to kill no. Random mids is their easiest bet which aint out so much.
 

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Arawn said:
Stop with the Grat threads tbh...This is a forum about RvR and not "hi my dog had 3 puppys yesterday"


:m00: :m00:

just a quick iblt+1 but the only way you get RR10 is by doing rvr so it is RvR related


BTW ding RR2L6 for my ani who is now trying RvR for a bit instead of pharmin the Dragon
:kissit:
 

Devaster

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not totaly agree with krane there but he got a right point.
fc doesnt zerg, its just happens there are many albs in same location etc
but fc doesnt win as 1 fg, well not vs grp i play in. fc win if they got massive adds only. Still remeber a fight near apk as 1 fg vs fc + some other grp decent realm rank also, was surpiresed why 3+mercs and a paly cound not kill a moced druid w/o bodyguard and no single grappler near :m00: if it was dha or hrae i would get 2shoted with all my instants and moc etc, start looking for misstakes u made and not just keep saying alb is nerfed. If u cant find anything than amethyst slash on u'r qb blame u'rself.
 

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Asha said:
I know it was only a few minutes, but I logged on my cleric last night to clean up my account and I decided to see what emain was like. It was sad.

1fg of mixed guilds. This time last year there would have been 4/5 guild groups running + xxx random groups. Only alb death msg from Piton soloing NSs :x

Last nite was a bad time to check emain out as most of the alb population were farming mids at fens
 

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katt! said:
so basically you can farm useless randoms on a 50/50 basis? :(
heh no.

maybe if u tried more than a week or 2 of ToA rvr before throwing your hands in the air and screaming 'we can't pwn QQ!' u woulda found ways to win too.
 

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Devaster said:
fc doesnt win as 1 fg, well not vs grp i play in.
you've not met a gg then, hardly surprising since we only been running pure or almost pure gg's for the last week or 2 since ToA

i dont remember the fight at apk u talking about but by the sounds of it we were either rez sick, unbuffed or both ;)

and i'm not whining btw, i'm saying we do just fine.
 

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Marc said:
Last nite was a bad time to check emain out as most of the alb population were farming mids at fens
was after that, maybe ppl were tired and logged
but going off rps it wasn't so far off from how things are
 

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Konah said:
heh no.

maybe if u tried more than a week or 2 of ToA rvr before throwing your hands in the air and screaming 'we can't pwn QQ!' u woulda found ways to win too.

900k in a week, and we didnt pwn?

ye, thats the reason we dont play atm. you try run a small guild during summertime and se how much playtime you get.
 

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Konah said:
ToA rvr is changing and evolving almost on a daily basis.

It isn't as hard to compete as it first appears. The first 2 weeks of ToA i figured we were d00med... but now with the right grp we can beat all hib/mid groups at least 50/50 (except maybe Nolby/DH)

ToA RvR = Learning Mode

dude we killed ur fg with 6 people and no druids the other day, stop lying about 50/50 :p
 

katt!

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Konah said:
heh no.

maybe if u tried more than a week or 2 of ToA rvr before throwing your hands in the air and screaming 'we can't pwn QQ!' u woulda found ways to win too.
Konah said:
It isn't as hard to compete as it first appears. The first 2 weeks of ToA i figured we were d00med... but now with the right grp we can beat all hib/mid groups at least 50/50 (except maybe Nolby/DH)

so basically, you farm useless randoms since those groups are the only good ones? :(
 

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katt! said:
so basically, you farm useless randoms since those groups are the only good ones? :(
we aint beat nolby in toa yet (altho i do think its possible with right grp) and we only beat them a handful of times prior to toa in _fair_ fights. they were hard then they r still the hardest. your point?

we beat DH far more than we beat nolby prior to toa, not met them since toa but they were very tough then, they will still be very tough. your point?

we dont run fixed groups, we dont use voice, we dont come from sweden and last but not least, we dont use radar. your point?

there are a couple more good grps now, as you would know if u ever rvr'd.

/dismiss
 

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Lethul said:
900k in a week, and we didnt pwn?
as a guild? or individual? impressive hours u musta put in if individual.

that must be those noobs katt's talking about i guess, u know the ones? with no ml's and no artis out for some fun away from toa? the ones that barely exist anymore.

all i remember is a flood of grapple wajn from u guys here, then some rerolling and no rvr...
 

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