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[Filip]

lol at those ppl who think that the fg vs fg was balanced before NF (except the patch just before toa which was the best patch ever imho)..

now it is hard to judge the balance becasue most good hib/mids group left but it seems to me that alb got the uber hand in most fg vs fg figths

 

[Solarius]

Chanter /QC stun pbae pbae pbae dead.... win button? iirc ALL casters get MOC right? so stop as if your trying to make out only alb casters get it. chanter pets can do more stuff than sorc pets also . snare/heal/crack etc

MoC pbae is nice yeah, but all pbers can do it. Stun, good against a single target, but Cabbies get a baseline lifetap, which everyone (well, honest people anyway) knows is better against a single target with MoC.

SM yea they are easy to kill. nice dmge pbae or nukes. a PET that seems to give 100% intercept . making it virtually impossible for me to hit cos pets blocks it.

SM pets only intercept that much when buffed and un-cc'd. Stun or Mez will stop that. Is a nice ability, don't get me wrong, but it doesn't make the SM unkillable, you just have to deal with the pet first (Shock horror that a pet should actually mean something!)

BD .. not even gonna go there cos we all know how insanley overpowered they are with there insta and healing pets.

Sorcs do very well against BDs, AoE mez to remove healers and MoC Lifetap will outdamage that instant lifetap by quite a distance.

OP'd therg pets ? would they be the ones that die in 1pbae? and hit REALLY slow.

But can be spammed from 2k range, more if you have % spell range. Good interruption tool, won't you agree? Oh, course you won't, that doesn't support the "underpowered weak albs, overpowered Hib/Mid", would it?

cabby pets not so different from chanter/sm pets apart from sm/chanter pets IMO are better.

Chanter pets can 1) Snare-nuke (underhill Companion), Heal (Underhill Ally) or Debuff-Nuke (Underhill Zealot). Thats it. DOn't know where you got Crack from, no chanter pet provides that.

Cabalist pets can Stun (Amber), DD Proc (Ruby) Lifetap proc (Saphire), Disease+DoT (Emerald).

I'd say that Cabbie pets and Chanter pets are about even really, but thats probably because I play a shockingly overpowered hib class that can one-shot any alb class when /levelled to 20, yeah even the lvl 50 paladins


Oh, and don't forget Cabbies get baseline buffs for their pets. What baseline buffs do Spiritmasters and Enchanters get? Oops, I'd better not mention that, after all we wouldn't want to think Albion classes get something that no other realms get now, would we?

theurg mezz is a joke .
abusive nukes? lol "if cabby debuufed then yea"
debuff abuse? lol i have been debuffed by hib casters for as long as i can rememeber.. and also from mid casters.

Theurgist mez is just as good as Eldritch mez, what do you expect from a secondary mez? Another long duration, bolt range 450 radius mez? Yeah right!

and IMO the game ISNT all about range.... sure if u wanna take keeps/towers all day then yea range>> melee but it aint. roam around a bit and its same as old emain apart from new ra's with open battles. and with cheap purge and low timer MEZZ ISNT the "i win" that it used to be IMO.

Kind of agree here, range isn't the ultimate tool, but it is significant now, way more significant than it was in OF. And we know which realm is WAY in front in the range wars, yes?

at keep raids numbers will win (unless mid/hib have marginally less) then albs will get pwnd. but in open battles of even numbers mid/hib still have the upper hand imo

Keep raids range is king. No question about it. Keep wars, I'd say if Albs have even numbers (and the right classes ofc) then they would beat the Hibs or Mids hands down.

 

[Bracken]

It's not about range so much as numbers. Prior to NF it was much more about group composition and abilities of people in said groups. Now it's about who has the biggest zerg, and thus hib is in a bad position.

True up to a point - OF was as much about classes as the players' abilities, which is why the average low-medium rr Alb group struggled. Even at higher rr Alb groups relied on key RAs being up. Also the availability of key classes - there simply weren't enough active sorcs and clerics to go round, which is why you ended up with the average 3 hours per night player having to settle for less than perfect groups if they wanted to see any rvr in an evening. But I do agree now Hibs have it hard - though hopefully it will be easier with the 1.71 changes.

I would say that with RA changes average hib fg and average alb fg are about even, with mids still having the upperhand in fg due to more utility.

 

[Jouzu]

A graph of flim's numbers from the stickied topic, I also included the latest numbers off camelot-seer.

The large spike at week 11 is the release of NF.

this has to be the crappiest graph I ever seen

 

[Mastade]

Albs are just like the chinese.. give em all a frying pan and they can win the war.. xd

 

[gwal]

Have you checked the graphs?

I like/enjoy being the underdog, but with albion having 600 more players, its not just being disadvataged, its downright unfair. Hib groups used to play this game because with even a 200 population disadvantage, superior equipment, coordiantion and skills made it a fun/evenish fight.

Who gives a fuck about tanks or range, its all in the numbers, simple as that.

superior skills my ass....

 

[Flimgoblin]

for the first week since stats began - the albs have actually got more people earning high amounts of realm points than the other two realms.

(i.e. the 50k+ it's not mids and hibs winning, and this applies to the 100k and 200k)

 

[Danya]

for the first week since stats began - the albs have actually got more people earning high amounts of realm points than the other two realms.

(i.e. the 50k+ it's not mids and hibs winning, and this applies to the 100k and 200k)

Well it's hard to compare as NF changed the RP earning dynamic so much. I have soloed 50k in an evening since NF came out for instance, something that I could never have done pre-NF.

Keep raids range is king. No question about it. Keep wars, I'd say if Albs have even numbers (and the right classes ofc) then they would beat the Hibs or Mids hands down.

We've beaten superior numbers of albs at a keep before, but it's not easy. The only way is to halt them on the stairs where their superior range is not a factor and animist turrets are.

 

[Boni]

superior skills my ass....

anyother misquote, the point is that with some of these things (superior skills, equipment, patience for people who misquote you etc), rvr for the underdog side uesd to be ok, not that every stupid br3hon possesed them or that any alb or mid player didnt OK?

 

[Zexxeh]

Agree with solarius got the right point of view. U cant compare a sorc/cabalist moc with quickcast stun of chanters cause if we talk of QC I can say theur FOTM QC root + Pet zerg....
U understand what means ... LIFEDRAIN+moc = I win!

 

[Dumonde]

no, but going in a fg will get you more skills then zerging to amg with the rest of the realm.

totally agree